webfact Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 EU urges Thai govt to respect freedom of speechThe NationBANGKOK: -- European Union (EU) Thursday called upon the Prayut government to respect freedom of speech and the right to demonstrate as the process of writing a new charter draft is about to begin."As a friend and partner of Thailand, the EU has repeatedly called for the democratic process to be restored. Only a full and free public debate in which also critical voices can be heard will allow for true reform and reconciliation," it said in a statement.The EU Delegation believes that the rule of law and the protection and promotion of human rights are crucial elements for stability and progress and calls upon the Thai authorities to abide by Thailand’s obligations under the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights."Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/EU-urges-Thai-govt-to-respect-freedom-of-speech-30269461.html-- The Nation 2015-09-24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoePai Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Dream on EU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Jones Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Dream on, EU - thats not gonna happen ... As a matter of fact its going just the opposit way, backwards by Warp speed Democratic rights here are far far away as UN will experience for them self when the General is gonna embarass him self with his complete nonsens ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dageurreotype Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 EU urges Thai govt to respect freedom of speech Or what? You gonna send some of the refugees migrants you're currently being swamped with? Best warn them no Government welfare benefits here first though .. EU 'urges' Pfft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 One ear in, one ear out, according to a German saying.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovelomsak Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 EU can say what they want no one in thailand will listen. Does North Korea listen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinmaew Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I wonder what time Noi knocks off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Thai translation: "The EU commends Thailand for it's reforms and salutes the Good General for his inspiring leadership and bringing Happiness back to the people (who all love him)" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenmohr Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I wonder what time Noi knocks off She has to ask Prayuth, can you wait?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manhood Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Even Thailand won't follow the arguments of the EU delegation it is good they point it out and name it!!! We can't keep quite because just this government don't want to hear it neither listen....so maybe they have to learn the lesson by pressure from EU (such as they do while Thailand still not fullfill the fishery laws) and there are many more ways to harm.....that's the only way they might listen and change! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdoglover Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 The government is now acting under the Interim Charter. Section 4 Subject to the provisions of this Constitution, human dignity, rights, freedoms and equality of all Thais, which have been protected under the customary practices of the government of Thailand under the democratic regime with the King as Head of State and under existing international obligations of Thailand, shall remain protected under this Constitution. Section 44 For the sake of the reforms in any field, the promotion of love and harmony amongst the people in the nation, or the prevention, abatement or suppression of any act detrimental to national order or security, royal throne, national economy or public administration, whether the act occurs inside or outside the Kingdom, the Leader of the National Council for Peace and Order, with the approval of the National Council for Peace and Order, may issue any order or direct any action to be done or not to be done, irrespective of whether the order or action would produce legislative, executive or judicial effect. Those orders or actions, as well as their observance, shall be deemed lawful, constitutional and final. After the exercise of such power, the President of the National Legislative Assembly and the Prime Minister shall be informed thereof without delay. Section 48 As regards all actions done by the National Council for Peace and Order or its Leader in relation to the seizure and control of the power of public administration on 22 May 2014, as well as the actions done for the sake thereof by the persons concerned therewith, by the proxies of the National Council for Peace and Order or its Leader, or by the delegatees of those proxies, whether the described actions produce constitutional, legislative, executive or judicial effect, or result in the infliction of penalties or in any other act of public administration, and whether those actions are done on the mentioned date or prior to or after such date, the doers shall, if their actions are unlawful, be absolutely released from guilt and liabilities, whether they participate in the actions as principals, aiders, abettors or agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micmichd Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Who or what is 'EU'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil2803 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Certain Thai laws which can't be discussed in these forums ultimately prevents freedom of speech. Simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZZPA Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 EU urges Thai govt to respect freedom of speech Or what? You gonna send some of the refugees migrants you're currently being swamped with? Best warn them no Government welfare benefits here first though .. EU 'urges' Pfft. Bit confused about your post. Are you saying the EU is not right about freedom of speech? I dont see any people here without the means to support themselves, either through pension or job or even savings. Haven't a clue what you mean with the welfare statement. The EU has great power if it wants to exercise it, trade sanctions can be painful and cause Thailand a lot of problems if they dot show to be respecting human rights and freedom of speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggers Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Once again, another country/Union telling Thailand how to mange it's affairs.....stick to fixing own major migration problems!! Not a leader amongst the 28 member States......all a bunch of self-centred incompetents; couldn't organise a p**s-up in a brewery !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micmichd Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) EU is a bit in trouble defining human rights. 'Freedom of speech'? Limited by 'political correctness' Some of the opinions in this forum here could be labeled and prosecuted as 'racistic hate speech' in Germany. Denying the Holocaust is a crime in Germany. My own contributions might qualify for insult or 'defamation' in Germany - or worse. If you happen to know some secret facts and publish them so everybody can read them this might be called 'treason'. Edited September 24, 2015 by micmichd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 European Union (EU) Thursday called upon the Prayut government to respect freedom of speech and the right to demonstrate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 No doubt about it the U's are after Prayut - O ass , UN, US , EU, AU UK , just some Useless info that might be handy to U know who. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Who or what is 'EU'? ETs brother! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 EU? Where is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominique355 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Once again, another country/Union telling Thailand how to mange it's affairs.....stick to fixing own major migration problems!! Not a leader amongst the 28 member States......all a bunch of self-centred incompetents; couldn't organise a p**s-up in a brewery !! Maybe you do not know how the EU is organized. But even though Europe (not just the EU) has a major problem with influx of migration and refugees, they can still point to the FACT that Thailand is violating some basic human rights, despite their adherence to International Treaties and some text in the Military imposed interim Charter. Facts remain facts, even if the messenger is not an angel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggers Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Once again, another country/Union telling Thailand how to mange it's affairs.....stick to fixing own major migration problems!! Not a leader amongst the 28 member States......all a bunch of self-centred incompetents; couldn't organise a p**s-up in a brewery !! Maybe you do not know how the EU is organized. But even though Europe (not just the EU) has a major problem with influx of migration and refugees, they can still point to the FACT that Thailand is violating some basic human rights, despite their adherence to International Treaties and some text in the Military imposed interim Charter. Facts remain facts, even if the messenger is not an angel. At the moment EU is disorganised...the Greece debacle & now the Migrant shambles....doesn't seem very organised, states pulling against other states! As said,other countries or group of States should focus on own backyard & clean up that mess; not proffering "off the cuff" comments or criticism. As for violating basic human rights, don't know of any countries that don't in some way or another violate human rights! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryAdriaenssens Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Look who's talking here!!!! The EU itself hardly listens to people;s opinion nowadays..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilli42 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Are the EU guru's so naive that they think having elections means there is a democracy in place. I thought they were at least more practical than the Americans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Once again, another country/Union telling Thailand how to mange it's affairs.....stick to fixing own major migration problems!! Not a leader amongst the 28 member States......all a bunch of self-centred incompetents; couldn't organise a p**s-up in a brewery !! Maybe you do not know how the EU is organized. But even though Europe (not just the EU) has a major problem with influx of migration and refugees, they can still point to the FACT that Thailand is violating some basic human rights, despite their adherence to International Treaties and some text in the Military imposed interim Charter. Facts remain facts, even if the messenger is not an angel. At the moment EU is disorganised...the Greece debacle & now the Migrant shambles....doesn't seem very organised, states pulling against other states!As said,other countries or group of States should focus on own backyard & clean up that mess; not proffering "off the cuff" comments or criticism. As for violating basic human rights, don't know of any countries that don't in some way or another violate human rights! So I take it the Thai firewall gets two thumbs up from you, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishJohn Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 How funny. The EU must be the least democratic organisation on Earth. I certainly didn't vote for them to make all my laws - I was never given the chance. Even the first 'president' was chosen behind closed doors by the biggest powers to make sure he would be easily manipulated. Politics is all about corruption and the EU is right there at the top : I don't trust a single one of those people as far as I could throw him. They are not much higher up the 'dirty' scale than Thai politicians IMHO. They are just better at hiding it. Somebody in that organisation is on the payroll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedsada3 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I like when "democratic countries" give democracy lessons to "non-democratic countries". In such "democratic countries", leader are elected by the citizens, they are choosen because citizens liked what they promised. But once they are on the power seat, they forget what they said, promised and find new taxes, new restriction, new prohibitions and give high responsability jobs to their relatives or their friends. Democracy means better hidden corruption, And about human rights in democratic countries, better not talk about it... One day my grand-ma told me "Clean your pots before you teach someone how to cook". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micmichd Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) F***ing EU technocrats, what do you hide? I want freedom of information from EU, and I want it now! Edited September 24, 2015 by micmichd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireMedic Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 EU can "urge" in one hand and crap in the other.....see which one fills up first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luk AJ Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Once again, another country/Union telling Thailand how to mange it's affairs.....stick to fixing own major migration problems!! Not a leader amongst the 28 member States......all a bunch of self-centred incompetents; couldn't organise a p**s-up in a brewery !! Maybe you do not know how the EU is organized. But even though Europe (not just the EU) has a major problem with influx of migration and refugees, they can still point to the FACT that Thailand is violating some basic human rights, despite their adherence to International Treaties and some text in the Military imposed interim Charter. Facts remain facts, even if the messenger is not an angel. At the moment EU is disorganised...the Greece debacle & now the Migrant shambles....doesn't seem very organised, states pulling against other states!As said,other countries or group of States should focus on own backyard & clean up that mess; not proffering "off the cuff" comments or criticism. As for violating basic human rights, don't know of any countries that don't in some way or another violate human rights! All correct, congratulations, you just described the mechanism of democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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