3,000 graduates in limbo as they may not get their degrees in time

[smutcakes]

I will never understand many Thai's fixation with getting more and more MA'BA's, Masters etc it makes little difference.

They seem to finish their first university, start work for a few years, then quit to do a masters when 30+ years old thinking it will improve their salaries etc.

In reality, they will waste 3 years doing it, and then go straight back into the old job with no reflection in salary, probably just an inflated sense of self worth.

They would be better off just getting into the work force and staying there.

Most employers in Thailand DO pay a higher monthly salary the more degree paperwork you have. A friend who works as middle - upper management at the electoral commission went from 70,000k baht a month (MA)to 100,000k baht a month when he got his PHD. At my wife's work to go from BA to MA can be approximately 5k more depending on department.

Well the employers i have worked for did not. Even if they did i think the marginal increase in salary would have been achieved anyway would they have remained their for the 3 years they took time out learning more useless theory at university.

Out of interest what new skills did your friend learn for use at the electoral commission by doing a PhD? a PhD in what? I don't suppose the electoral commission have much to do here, and being a Government body it would be typical that they promote and increase pay based on pieces of paper rather than ability.

[English_M_in_Bkk]

I will never understand many Thai's fixation with getting more and more MA'BA's, Masters etc it makes little difference.

They seem to finish their first university, start work for a few years, then quit to do a masters when 30+ years old thinking it will improve their salaries etc.

In reality, they will waste 3 years doing it, and then go straight back into the old job with no reflection in salary, probably just an inflated sense of self worth.

They would be better off just getting into the work force and staying there.

funny, I know Thais who have done a masters and then gone on to higher paid jobs, guess reality gets in the way of a good old bitch about Thailand

[Usernames]

And the utter chaos and mismanagement of what passes for higher education in Thailand continues.

[casualbiker]

I will never understand many Thai's fixation with getting more and more MA'BA's, Masters etc it makes little difference.

They seem to finish their first university, start work for a few years, then quit to do a masters when 30+ years old thinking it will improve their salaries etc.

In reality, they will waste 3 years doing it, and then go straight back into the old job with no reflection in salary, probably just an inflated sense of self worth.

They would be better off just getting into the work force and staying there.

Most employers in Thailand DO pay a higher monthly salary the more degree paperwork you have. A friend who works as middle - upper management at the electoral commission went from 70,000k baht a month (MA)to 100,000k baht a month when he got his PHD. At my wife's work to go from BA to MA can be approximately 5k more depending on department.

Well the employers i have worked for did not. Even if they did i think the marginal increase in salary would have been achieved anyway would they have remained their for the 3 years they took time out learning more useless theory at university.

Out of interest what new skills did your friend learn for use at the electoral commission by doing a PhD? a PhD in what? I don't suppose the electoral commission have much to do here, and being a Government body it would be typical that they promote and increase pay based on pieces of paper rather than ability.

New skills.. Bugger all.. He did it for the money!

[maidee]

the can print it themselves or one from sao kan road ? same value

[Srikcir]

Maybe Prayut can put Article 44 to good use and simply grant degrees for the students on the list. Then transfer the 14 to an inactive "educational institution."

[bangon04]

BA`s and MA`s are not worth the paper they are printed on in Thailand.

Don`t think they are recognised abroad.

The US has no national system for evaluating overseas qualifications. It is a make-it-up-as-you-feel state or university decision. Probably because the US has no national standards in education - a GPA in one school can be completely different value from a GPA in another.

http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ous/international/usnei/us/edlite-visitus-forrecog.html

so the credits available seem to be according to how many unfilled places available in the US institution.

The UK has a national system - NARIC. The UK also has national university entrance standards (A Level or IB)

http://www.naric.org.uk/naric/individuals/compare%20qualifications/Statement%20of%20Comparability.aspx

Thai BA degrees from "prestigious" universities are considered adequate to absolve the Thai from attending the "foundation year" of a BA course in the UK. A Thai MA is usually considered adequate to get a place for MA study in the UK.

So approx. 1-2 years behind in general.

[Dap]

I know quite a few Thais and foreigners that have degrees from mediocre Thai universities, but have better jobs and higher income than 90% of the people ridiculing Thai university degrees. Some of them have careers in either Japan, Europe or the US. Companies do not recruit people solely on the name of their university. Its the complete package: degree, abilities and charisma.

I do agree that many Thai students lack the complete package, but to say that a degree from a Thai university is worthless is just not true.

Thailand calls Rajabhat a ... university

[Thai at Heart]

BA`s and MA`s are not worth the paper they are printed on in Thailand.

Don`t think they are recognised abroad.

The US has no national system for evaluating overseas qualifications. It is a make-it-up-as-you-feel state or university decision. Probably because the US has no national standards in education - a GPA in one school can be completely different value from a GPA in another.

http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ous/international/usnei/us/edlite-visitus-forrecog.html

so the credits available seem to be according to how many unfilled places available in the US institution.

The UK has a national system - NARIC. The UK also has national university entrance standards (A Level or IB)

http://www.naric.org.uk/naric/individuals/compare%20qualifications/Statement%20of%20Comparability.aspx

Thai BA degrees from "prestigious" universities are considered adequate to absolve the Thai from attending the "foundation year" of a BA course in the UK. A Thai MA is usually considered adequate to get a place for MA study in the UK.

So approx. 1-2 years behind in general.

Thailand recognises IGCSE as sufficient entry into international programs at university.....