duckmandon Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 All the expats who live in the lap of luxury here are quick to condemn the poorest dregs of society here without a thought as to the lives of those involved. I don't condone the actions of this pathetic excuse of a human being,but I do take into account the ever increasing social divide within the Kingdom which obviously does little to help those at the bottom of the socio economic ladder who are more often than not the perpetrators of these crimes. Rather than spouting off why don't some of our Thai Visa regulars make a donation to a charity which may assist in helping to deter these grave acts being repeated time and time again. I do like your post, but if we made a donation to a charity it would not reach the victims or do anything to stop this from happening. Once again corruption would stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 ....another good mother...and super grandmother.... ...and then you wonder at the dysfunction of it all..... ...this is the real Thai society....the rest is all pretend....illusion....and mimicry...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwikeith Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 There will be lots more of the same going on,why does it take so long to report to the authorities,so it can be stopped,they blame the drink and the drugs,his wife run away,wonder why !,he should have just given himself a J Arthur Rank. regards Worgeordie Apparently very common practice in the Nth East, and not only fathers but brothers also and they sell their sisters favours to their mates and if they dont comply they get a beating. When they get a bit older they run away to another city to take care for baby and mummy bear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendly Stranger Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 News from around the world gets worse and worse: Drunk billionaire heir kills 4 (3 children) coming home from own stag. 7 bodies found buried on murderers own property. Raping of own daughter. Give it a week, there will be one that tops these too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todlad Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 You are right about the reporting/reality of the statistics. The results I quoted will hide tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of desperate victims that an online or government database has not seen. We have to appreciate that these wretched people are everywhere and, as in this case, look at home first: keep an eye on your own family because whether we like it or not, opportunists can just as easily be your brother as your friend as a stranger. Modern paranoia for keeping children locked away from fear is no way to raise a child either is it? I don't say you said that but we hear and read that all of the time, don't we. It's common in the SE Asian countries is it? I checked. Out of the top 18 countries for rape alone, per 100,000 of the population. only ONE SE Asian country features, at number 18. (UN statistics 2012) The top Five countries for child sexual abuse: Thailand number one? number two? three? four? five? Nope, none of them. The top five are South Africa India Zimbabwe then many of you will refuse to believe: United Kingdom United States of America (International Business Times) So whilst this is a hideous crime and clearly it happens in Thailand, it's best to stick to the facts. There's crime and there's crime. But this crime goes beyond all comprehension. What a despicable human being. Absolutely dreadful !! Unfortunately it is common in these SE Asian countries I would say that the statistics have a lot to do wit reported crime. For example rape is far more reported in the UK and the USA then here in Thailand. Its just like any other crime in Thailand the police dont want to know a lot of the time but in the UK once contact is made it is reported, simple. 2 friends of mine were walking along Jomtien beach one evening and they set upon by 4 people. They stole necklace some other jewellery and made off off the beach. They went straight to the police station and were told to go and take a picture of them and bring it back to the police station? I know this is not a horrific child rape but its one of many examples I know where not only is crime not reported you dont even get assistance from the police. I can't help but think this is such a disgusting crime how many families cover it up due to the issue of losing face? There is definitely a problem with child welfare here, I have seen the orphanages and shelters. However, 1 thing I will say that I have on good authority that over the last 15 years things have improved dramatically here, (I have only been here about 4 years now) but clearly still a lot to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just1Voice Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 When I told my wife about this, she just shrugged and told me "happens all the time". She said in small villages, 90% of the girls lose their virginity to their father or brothers by the time they are 13 or so. She said no one talks about it, but everyone knows about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springheeled jack Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 this person has admitted he groped his daughter that is sufficient to charge him but raping your own daughter you lock the cell door and throw away the key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 i showed this story to my Thai girlfriend and asked her what should happen to this man. She said: "Cut off. I will do." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 There's crime and there's crime. But this crime goes beyond all comprehension. What a despicable human being. Absolutely dreadful !! Unfortunately it is common in these SE Asian countries It is quite common PERIOD. Not just in SE Asia. Abuse like this happens in every segment of society, in every country. Sad, but true. It's not a regional problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 "police arrest Thai man" ..... Wrong word, let's call him simply: animal, pig, dog... But that can't be correct, Thai's wouldn't do such a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovelomsak Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) When I told my wife about this, she just shrugged and told me "happens all the time". She said in small villages, 90% of the girls lose their virginity to their father or brothers by the time they are 13 or so. She said no one talks about it, but everyone knows about it. This post i feel is spot on. It is common because no one intervenes in another family or a relationship . Thais see it as none of their business. If the girl talks about it she is the one to get disgraced for bringing shame to the family. Read about one instance. A young girl had 3 brothers all three were raping her when ever they wanted. The youngest brother did for a while then then second started also finally the oldest brother started. When it was made public she was blamed and made to look bad Studies donot enter into this because of the above mentioned way things are. No one will discuss it or admit it. Edited October 9, 2015 by lovelomsak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaPiPuPePo Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 You are right about the reporting/reality of the statistics. The results I quoted will hide tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of desperate victims that an online or government database has not seen. We have to appreciate that these wretched people are everywhere and, as in this case, look at home first: keep an eye on your own family because whether we like it or not, opportunists can just as easily be your brother as your friend as a stranger. Modern paranoia for keeping children locked away from fear is no way to raise a child either is it? I don't say you said that but we hear and read that all of the time, don't we. It's common in the SE Asian countries is it? I checked. Out of the top 18 countries for rape alone, per 100,000 of the population. only ONE SE Asian country features, at number 18. (UN statistics 2012) The top Five countries for child sexual abuse: Thailand number one? number two? three? four? five? Nope, none of them. The top five are South Africa India Zimbabwe then many of you will refuse to believe: United Kingdom United States of America (International Business Times) So whilst this is a hideous crime and clearly it happens in Thailand, it's best to stick to the facts. I would say that the statistics have a lot to do wit reported crime. For example rape is far more reported in the UK and the USA then here in Thailand. Its just like any other crime in Thailand the police dont want to know a lot of the time but in the UK once contact is made it is reported, simple. 2 friends of mine were walking along Jomtien beach one evening and they set upon by 4 people. They stole necklace some other jewellery and made off off the beach. They went straight to the police station and were told to go and take a picture of them and bring it back to the police station? I know this is not a horrific child rape but its one of many examples I know where not only is crime not reported you dont even get assistance from the police. I can't help but think this is such a disgusting crime how many families cover it up due to the issue of losing face? There is definitely a problem with child welfare here, I have seen the orphanages and shelters. However, 1 thing I will say that I have on good authority that over the last 15 years things have improved dramatically here, (I have only been here about 4 years now) but clearly still a lot to do. As you note in your follow up, there are lies, damn lies, and statistics. Under- or non-reporting is rampant in less developed and/or more conservative countries, all of which have less-empowered women. You can look that up too. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldragon Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 When I told my wife about this, she just shrugged and told me "happens all the time". She said in small villages, 90% of the girls lose their virginity to their father or brothers by the time they are 13 or so. She said no one talks about it, but everyone knows about it. If this is true, it's very disturbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Where he is going he is sure to find out what it is like to be raped... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickyboy Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 why did it take the grandmother a year to tell proberly fear as well that poor girl like all the children who are sexually abused and suffer emotional and physical pain and problems later on in life as well not sure waht the punishments are for these people but having his balls chopped off would be a start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookee68 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Why do they hide this scum bags face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdkane Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Quite some time ago, I did some research and analyses of a large scale survey that was intended to gather information on adolescents...I was amazed to find that about 25% of adolescents (both male and female) had been sexually assaulted by parents, relative, and siblings. Keep in mind that these results likely were underestimates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedtripler Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Why do they hide this scum bags face Because he probably will be released after paying a 500thb fine... Thais don't take child abuse cases seriously yet.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) Quite some time ago, I did some research and analyses of a large scale survey that was intended to gather information on adolescents...I was amazed to find that about 25% of adolescents (both male and female) had been sexually assaulted by parents, relative, and siblings. Keep in mind that these results likely were underestimates. Maybe underestimated but on the other hand could also be overestimated. The results would depend entirely on how the research was worded, structured, presented, understood by participants, and analysed. Edited October 12, 2015 by Artisi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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