Another arrest warrant issued for fugitive Thaksin Shinawatra

[Baerboxer]

So how many arrest warrants are now in force?

Any country, other than Thailand would be investigating ways / methods of extraditing a criminal - especially when you know where the bolthole is and said criminal is flitting around the world more than likely into countries that have extradition agreements with Thailand.

Another slow news day.

Maybe because these countries just don't give a rats arse about what Thailand wants under its current guise?

Maybe you should try researching his crimes and outstanding cases. It's not all political - only brainwashed Shin fans, minions and the easily led think that.

Some are really meaty corruption cases. Properly filed extradition requests would be acted on by most countries, many of whose judicial systems would see through the Thaksin BS and would not tolerate "pastry boxes" to sway them.

But Thaksin knows they'll never do that. That would set a precedent, and others might have to be extradited. And, some, didn't even bother to flee and their serious cases will never be progressed.

Many other countries know very well that Thaksin is a criminal who has amassed a considerable vast fortune. Even the normally very billionaire friendly UK kicked him out. No doubt he pays Dubai's cash conscious absolute non democratic ruler something for the privilege of living their. He wouldn't extradite him, unless the Abu Dhabi boys decided otherwise.

[Linky]

Its not as if he is in hiding.

Its painfully obvious no other country on the planet believes all these charges and his conviction otherwise extradition would have begun.

Its nothing while the military are in charge, but they just cant understand their stupidity. The good general complains about TS being constantly in the news but actually kerps his name up in lights.

Jeez who cares, just fix the bloody country as promised.

[Baerboxer]

It's hard to understand why he couldn't be simply arrested in any of the countries where he regularly visits....

charge him with the 3000 odd extra judicial murders and maybe some country might agree to send him back..

They might indeed, but the trouble with that plan is that he could likely bring down an awful lot of important people with him - it wasn't him that pulled the trigger, nor do I imagine he personally authorised each and every death. That means people in the dock with him.

No, I imagine he has far too much dirt on far too many for him to ever be allowed to stand trial on any charges other countries would actually send him back to face, hence no requests for his arrest.

The problem with that, is that he would defend himself by saying the accusations as politically biased and as such, most countries wouldn't extradite him.

Kasit blagged the country by claiming he had gone to Interpol but that was all nonsense.

He probably would claim each and every charge against him was politically motivated. But not all countries have corrupt judicial systems that accept pastry boxes; or ones that believe this accomplished liar and his expensive PR machine.

Baboon is correct and very much on the right track I think. The easily changeable alliances and machinations within the Thai elite tier, of which the Shins and their extended families are members, means it is more than likely that some of those against Thaksin now were probably friendly and sharing things together in the past. Thaksin's little black book could be very revealing, and many might be worried what could come out.

If he ever did come back, either under extradition, or as a "free man" under a contrived whitewash amnesty, he would always be looking over his shoulder. He bottled out of a red shirt meeting near the Myanmar border - and I doubt that was fear of arrest.

That's another problem with a corrupt justice system that applies laws differently to the rich elite well connected.

[Thai at Heart]

It's hard to understand why he couldn't be simply arrested in any of the countries where he regularly visits....

charge him with the 3000 odd extra judicial murders and maybe some country might agree to send him back..

They might indeed, but the trouble with that plan is that he could likely bring down an awful lot of important people with him - it wasn't him that pulled the trigger, nor do I imagine he personally authorised each and every death. That means people in the dock with him.

No, I imagine he has far too much dirt on far too many for him to ever be allowed to stand trial on any charges other countries would actually send him back to face, hence no requests for his arrest.

The problem with that, is that he would defend himself by saying the accusations as politically biased and as such, most countries wouldn't extradite him.

Kasit blagged the country by claiming he had gone to Interpol but that was all nonsense.

He probably would claim each and every charge against him was politically motivated. But not all countries have corrupt judicial systems that accept pastry boxes; or ones that believe this accomplished liar and his expensive PR machine.

Baboon is correct and very much on the right track I think. The easily changeable alliances and machinations within the Thai elite tier, of which the Shins and their extended families are members, means it is more than likely that some of those against Thaksin now were probably friendly and sharing things together in the past. Thaksin's little black book could be very revealing, and many might be worried what could come out.

If he ever did come back, either under extradition, or as a "free man" under a contrived whitewash amnesty, he would always be looking over his shoulder. He bottled out of a red shirt meeting near the Myanmar border - and I doubt that was fear of arrest.

That's another problem with a corrupt justice system that applies laws differently to the rich elite well connected.

Not when it comes to extradition. Those laws are pretty much an international standard that if charges are political or the plaintiff can't get a fair trial, extradition doesn't happen..

He undoubtedly knows plenty about everyone's business in Thailand. Do you think these companies keep their monopolies for free?

[Baerboxer]

Its not as if he is in hiding.

Its painfully obvious no other country on the planet believes all these charges and his conviction otherwise extradition would have begun.

Its nothing while the military are in charge, but they just cant understand their stupidity. The good general complains about TS being constantly in the news but actually kerps his name up in lights.

Jeez who cares, just fix the bloody country as promised.

Nonsense. No country will extradite him unless Thailand makes a formal request following the agreed protocol. It helps if an extradition treaty between the countries exists for starters.

The UK cancelled his visa and the FA found he wasn't fit to be a football club chairman, Why do you think that was?

But the issuing of arrest warrants, which can be added to the pile, which the RTP will never ever enforce or do anything about, is farcical. Makes you think they do really want him back for any reason.

[waitforusalso]

So how many arrest warrants are now in force?

Any country, other than Thailand would be investigating ways / methods of extraditing a criminal - especially when you know where the bolthole is and said criminal is flitting around the world more than likely into countries that have extradition agreements with Thailand.

Another slow news day.

Maybe because these countries just don't give a rats arse about what Thailand wants under its current guise?

Maybe you should try researching his crimes and outstanding cases. It's not all political - only brainwashed Shin fans, minions and the easily led think that.

Some are really meaty corruption cases. Properly filed extradition requests would be acted on by most countries, many of whose judicial systems would see through the Thaksin BS and would not tolerate "pastry boxes" to sway them.

But Thaksin knows they'll never do that. That would set a precedent, and others might have to be extradited. And, some, didn't even bother to flee and their serious cases will never be progressed.

Many other countries know very well that Thaksin is a criminal who has amassed a considerable vast fortune. Even the normally very billionaire friendly UK kicked him out. No doubt he pays Dubai's cash conscious absolute non democratic ruler something for the privilege of living their. He wouldn't extradite him, unless the Abu Dhabi boys decided otherwise.

"Meaty corruption cases"...yeah , his wife bought a piece of land in a fair & open tender. Meaty! You should try to do some research that hasn't been written by his yellow enemies.

How about Prayuth's family explain selling their plots of land to a company registered in the Cayman Islands only weeks before the sale?

[Baerboxer]

Not when it comes to extradition. Those laws are pretty much an international standard that if charges are political or the plaintiff can't get a fair trial, extradition doesn't happen..

He undoubtedly knows plenty about everyone's business in Thailand. Do you think these companies keep their monopolies for free?

No - he would be subject to the extradition laws of the country where he was arrested. He would need to show the charges were political in nature. Hard to do that with a straight forward massive fraud like Krungthai Bank case. He would claim that his political opponents would ensure he never gets a fair trial. But then most countries would see through the "everyone does it, did it and they only picked on me" defense Thaksin and his siblings seem to think is credible.

It's what else he might say, and be able to evidence, whose been involved in what, which might be surprising, given some very large asset values, that would rock the boat.

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[Thai at Heart]

Its not as if he is in hiding.

Its painfully obvious no other country on the planet believes all these charges and his conviction otherwise extradition would have begun.

Its nothing while the military are in charge, but they just cant understand their stupidity. The good general complains about TS being constantly in the news but actually kerps his name up in lights.

Jeez who cares, just fix the bloody country as promised.

Nonsense. No country will extradite him unless Thailand makes a formal request following the agreed protocol. It helps if an extradition treaty between the countries exists for starters.

The UK cancelled his visa and the FA found he wasn't fit to be a football club chairman, Why do you think that was?

But the issuing of arrest warrants, which can be added to the pile, which the RTP will never ever enforce or do anything about, is farcical. Makes you think they do really want him back for any reason.

They cancelled his visa because Prem went to London and the next day, the story about nominee shareholders with Tesco thailand front and centre hit the Bangkok post.

Hence, the visa was cancelled...... Milliband caved in to save Tesco from a problem in Thailand.

[GeckosDiving]

So how many arrest warrants are now in force?

Any country, other than Thailand would be investigating ways / methods of extraditing a criminal - especially when you know where the bolthole is and said criminal is flitting around the world more than likely into countries that have extradition agreements with Thailand.

Another slow news day.

Maybe because these countries just don't give a rats arse about what Thailand wants under its current guise?

Maybe you should try researching his crimes and outstanding cases. It's not all political - only brainwashed Shin fans, minions and the easily led think that.

Some are really meaty corruption cases. Properly filed extradition requests would be acted on by most countries, many of whose judicial systems would see through the Thaksin BS and would not tolerate "pastry boxes" to sway them.

But Thaksin knows they'll never do that. That would set a precedent, and others might have to be extradited. And, some, didn't even bother to flee and their serious cases will never be progressed.

Many other countries know very well that Thaksin is a criminal who has amassed a considerable vast fortune. Even the normally very billionaire friendly UK kicked him out. No doubt he pays Dubai's cash conscious absolute non democratic ruler something for the privilege of living their. He wouldn't extradite him, unless the Abu Dhabi boys decided otherwise.

"Meaty corruption cases"...yeah , his wife bought a piece of land in a fair & open tender. Meaty! You should try to do some research that hasn't been written by his yellow enemies.

How about Prayuth's family explain selling their plots of land to a company registered in the Cayman Islands only weeks before the sale?

[Linky]

Its not as if he is in hiding.

Its painfully obvious no other country on the planet believes all these charges and his conviction otherwise extradition would have begun.

Its nothing while the military are in charge, but they just cant understand their stupidity. The good general complains about TS being constantly in the news but actually kerps his name up in lights.

Jeez who cares, just fix the bloody country as promised.

Nonsense. No country will extradite him unless Thailand makes a formal request following the agreed protocol. It helps if an extradition treaty between the countries exists for starters.

The UK cancelled his visa and the FA found he wasn't fit to be a football club chairman, Why do you think that was?

But the issuing of arrest warrants, which can be added to the pile, which the RTP will never ever enforce or do anything about, is farcical. Makes you think they do really want him back for any reason.

Has Thailand requested extradition? Therein lies your answer.

[Baerboxer]

So how many arrest warrants are now in force?

Any country, other than Thailand would be investigating ways / methods of extraditing a criminal - especially when you know where the bolthole is and said criminal is flitting around the world more than likely into countries that have extradition agreements with Thailand.

Another slow news day.

Maybe because these countries just don't give a rats arse about what Thailand wants under its current guise?

Maybe you should try researching his crimes and outstanding cases. It's not all political - only brainwashed Shin fans, minions and the easily led think that.

Some are really meaty corruption cases. Properly filed extradition requests would be acted on by most countries, many of whose judicial systems would see through the Thaksin BS and would not tolerate "pastry boxes" to sway them.

But Thaksin knows they'll never do that. That would set a precedent, and others might have to be extradited. And, some, didn't even bother to flee and their serious cases will never be progressed.

Many other countries know very well that Thaksin is a criminal who has amassed a considerable vast fortune. Even the normally very billionaire friendly UK kicked him out. No doubt he pays Dubai's cash conscious absolute non democratic ruler something for the privilege of living their. He wouldn't extradite him, unless the Abu Dhabi boys decided otherwise.

"Meaty corruption cases"...yeah , his wife bought a piece of land in a fair & open tender. Meaty! You should try to do some research that hasn't been written by his yellow enemies.

How about Prayuth's family explain selling their plots of land to a company registered in the Cayman Islands only weeks before the sale?

Well well, a Shin PR boy.

So, how do you explain away the Krungthai Bank case? Where Mr. No,1 defendant hasn't faced the court like some of his co-defendants who are now in prison?

You might like to do some real research yourself, rather than rely on what some red shirt or your wife told you. Plenty to go through, around 15 or so. Almost a serial criminal.

He signed a document, when PM, fully knowing it was illegal to do so. He thought he was above the law, could talk his way out and when he found out he couldn't he tried to bribe the judges. Something his lawyer was found guilty of. Maybe you should check the facts rather than believe the Shin re-write.

It doesn't matter what anyone else has done or does. This thread is about the criminal fugitive former PM Thaksin and the unlikely possibility he will ever be brought to justice.

[Baerboxer]

Its not as if he is in hiding.

Its painfully obvious no other country on the planet believes all these charges and his conviction otherwise extradition would have begun.

Its nothing while the military are in charge, but they just cant understand their stupidity. The good general complains about TS being constantly in the news but actually kerps his name up in lights.

Jeez who cares, just fix the bloody country as promised.

Nonsense. No country will extradite him unless Thailand makes a formal request following the agreed protocol. It helps if an extradition treaty between the countries exists for starters.

The UK cancelled his visa and the FA found he wasn't fit to be a football club chairman, Why do you think that was?

But the issuing of arrest warrants, which can be added to the pile, which the RTP will never ever enforce or do anything about, is farcical. Makes you think they do really want him back for any reason.

Has Thailand requested extradition? Therein lies your answer.

No - and that's why no other country would even think or care about these charges. Why do you suggest they wouldn't believe them? No one's asked them.

[Thai at Heart]

Not when it comes to extradition. Those laws are pretty much an international standard that if charges are political or the plaintiff can't get a fair trial, extradition doesn't happen..

He undoubtedly knows plenty about everyone's business in Thailand. Do you think these companies keep their monopolies for free?

No - he would be subject to the extradition laws of the country where he was arrested. He would need to show the charges were political in nature. Hard to do that with a straight forward massive fraud like Krungthai Bank case. He would claim that his political opponents would ensure he never gets a fair trial. But then most countries would see through the "everyone does it, did it and they only picked on me" defense Thaksin and his siblings seem to think is credible.

It's what else he might say, and be able to evidence, whose been involved in what, which might be surprising, given some very large asset values, that would rock the boat.

He's accused of ordering them to make a loan....... Do you think there is a memo saying "I hereby order you to loan......."

I doubt it. In which case it is here say....

The chances of an extradition under a military junta are virtually zero

Edited October 12, 2015 by Thai at Heart

[Baerboxer]

Its not as if he is in hiding.

Its painfully obvious no other country on the planet believes all these charges and his conviction otherwise extradition would have begun.

Its nothing while the military are in charge, but they just cant understand their stupidity. The good general complains about TS being constantly in the news but actually kerps his name up in lights.

Jeez who cares, just fix the bloody country as promised.

Nonsense. No country will extradite him unless Thailand makes a formal request following the agreed protocol. It helps if an extradition treaty between the countries exists for starters.

The UK cancelled his visa and the FA found he wasn't fit to be a football club chairman, Why do you think that was?

But the issuing of arrest warrants, which can be added to the pile, which the RTP will never ever enforce or do anything about, is farcical. Makes you think they do really want him back for any reason.

They cancelled his visa because Prem went to London and the next day, the story about nominee shareholders with Tesco thailand front and centre hit the Bangkok post.

Hence, the visa was cancelled...... Milliband caved in to save Tesco from a problem in Thailand.

So why don't you persuade Panorama to do a big expose? The weak Milliband and Labor government giving to blackmail and pressure from a UK big business that has not been without other controversy?

Thaksin the Innocent, unjustly treated by the UK Labor government and the FA. Corbyn will love this.

[ChrisY1]

Stupid people.........just get a red card issued from Interpol and case done...............

This is simply spin!

Edited October 12, 2015 by ChrisY1

[Baerboxer]

Not when it comes to extradition. Those laws are pretty much an international standard that if charges are political or the plaintiff can't get a fair trial, extradition doesn't happen..

He undoubtedly knows plenty about everyone's business in Thailand. Do you think these companies keep their monopolies for free?

No - he would be subject to the extradition laws of the country where he was arrested. He would need to show the charges were political in nature. Hard to do that with a straight forward massive fraud like Krungthai Bank case. He would claim that his political opponents would ensure he never gets a fair trial. But then most countries would see through the "everyone does it, did it and they only picked on me" defense Thaksin and his siblings seem to think is credible.

It's what else he might say, and be able to evidence, whose been involved in what, which might be surprising, given some very large asset values, that would rock the boat.

He's accused of ordering them to make a loan....... Do you think there is a memo saying "I hereby order you to loan......."

I doubt it. In which case it is here say....

The chances of an extradition under a military junta are virtually zero

Then he should come back and clear himself shouldn't he,

Of course, you'll discount any witnesses who testify that he was involved and orchestrated this.

Yeah for Thaksin the Innocent.

He must have been sincere when he told CNN he's never ever done anything wrong, nor his sister. Not so much as even a fart in public.

[Thai at Heart]

Its not as if he is in hiding.

Its painfully obvious no other country on the planet believes all these charges and his conviction otherwise extradition would have begun.

Its nothing while the military are in charge, but they just cant understand their stupidity. The good general complains about TS being constantly in the news but actually kerps his name up in lights.

Jeez who cares, just fix the bloody country as promised.

Nonsense. No country will extradite him unless Thailand makes a formal request following the agreed protocol. It helps if an extradition treaty between the countries exists for starters.

The UK cancelled his visa and the FA found he wasn't fit to be a football club chairman, Why do you think that was?

But the issuing of arrest warrants, which can be added to the pile, which the RTP will never ever enforce or do anything about, is farcical. Makes you think they do really want him back for any reason.

They cancelled his visa because Prem went to London and the next day, the story about nominee shareholders with Tesco thailand front and centre hit the Bangkok post.

Hence, the visa was cancelled...... Milliband caved in to save Tesco from a problem in Thailand.

So why don't you persuade Panorama to do a big expose? The weak Milliband and Labor government giving to blackmail and pressure from a UK big business that has not been without other controversy?

Thaksin the Innocent, unjustly treated by the UK Labor government and the FA. Corbyn will love this.

Why would I bother. Everyone can put two and two together. They never explained why his visa was cancelled. The Foreign office doesn't have to. Dozens of much dodgier Russians in London.

They caved in expediently. That's business.

[Linky]

You dont necessarily need to have an extradition treaty with a country to extradite. The treaty is purely for certain procedures to be followed before extradition will occur.

The lack of a treaty does not mean a person cannot be extradited.

[Thai at Heart]

Not when it comes to extradition. Those laws are pretty much an international standard that if charges are political or the plaintiff can't get a fair trial, extradition doesn't happen..

He undoubtedly knows plenty about everyone's business in Thailand. Do you think these companies keep their monopolies for free?

No - he would be subject to the extradition laws of the country where he was arrested. He would need to show the charges were political in nature. Hard to do that with a straight forward massive fraud like Krungthai Bank case. He would claim that his political opponents would ensure he never gets a fair trial. But then most countries would see through the "everyone does it, did it and they only picked on me" defense Thaksin and his siblings seem to think is credible.

It's what else he might say, and be able to evidence, whose been involved in what, which might be surprising, given some very large asset values, that would rock the boat.

He's accused of ordering them to make a loan....... Do you think there is a memo saying "I hereby order you to loan......."

I doubt it. In which case it is here say....

The chances of an extradition under a military junta are virtually zero

Then he should come back and clear himself shouldn't he,

Of course, you'll discount any witnesses who testify that he was involved and orchestrated this.

Yeah for Thaksin the Innocent.

He must have been sincere when he told CNN he's never ever done anything wrong, nor his sister. Not so much as even a fart in public.

I am just saying what his defence would likely be and why it would probably succeed.

[ALLSEEINGEYE]

stop pissin around and charge him with crimes against humanity already. Pretty easy to prove that one and it packs much more of an international punch to it.

[speedtripler]

I don't think a pastry box would be acceptable in Germany thesedays and he was there around a month ago... Would have been the perfect chance to grab him but bringing him back in handcuffs would probably start riots from his fans...

[Praematura]

Who cares, waste of time.

[jesimps]

Mr T won't come back unless it is safe to do so. He will have one of his "private" governments in power, democratically elected of course, and amnesty in place to absolve his various sins.

He will then enter Rome Bangkok as a hero, and the roads will be strewn with red rose petals, and the sidewalks packed with adoring red tee shirts.

He will spend the rest of his life looking over his shoulder.

So you're advocating that the only way to get rid of a popular hero is a shot to the back of the head. Par for the course for a junta groupy.

[MZurf]

So how many arrest warrants are now in force?

Any country, other than Thailand would be investigating ways / methods of extraditing a criminal - especially when you know where the bolthole is and said criminal is flitting around the world more than likely into countries that have extradition agreements with Thailand.

Another slow news day.

Maybe because these countries just don't give a rats arse about what Thailand wants under its current guise?

If the truth be known, it's more than likely Thailand doesn't really give a rats arse what Thaksin is doing, and the further away he is the better.

As for his name popping up all the time - not entirely a function of the junta -- the news media thinks it sell papers and will take every opportunity to run headline.

"If the truth be known, it's more than likely Thailand doesn't really give a rats arse what Thaksin is doing, "

It probably depends on where in the country you ask the population. I'm fairly certain they care quite a lot in some parts of the country. But I can tell you this much; the junta and their pals care a great deal about what he's doing, and they have every reason to be worried....very worried.

[MZurf]

Mr T won't come back unless it is safe to do so. He will have one of his "private" governments in power, democratically elected of course, and amnesty in place to absolve his various sins.

He will then enter Rome Bangkok as a hero, and the roads will be strewn with red rose petals, and the sidewalks packed with adoring red tee shirts.

He will spend the rest of his life looking over his shoulder.

Hey mikemac. Did you ever figure out who should decide if a democratically elected government is "worthy" of a military take-over??

[Artisi]

Well, if it was an earnest opinion, he should get away with it.......

The only earnest opinion Thaksin ever has is one which garners more kudos or more importantly more money in this bank account/s.

[MobileContent]

It's hard to understand why he couldn't be simply arrested in any of the countries where he regularly visits....

charge him with the 3000 odd extra judicial murders and maybe some country might agree to send him back..

Please listen to the speech of an institution we can not talk about then you get the point why 3000 personals got popped off. It was clearly mentioned in the speech that the current laws and regulations are not enough to get rid of the drug problems. As for the issues of 3000 peoples that were popped off 90% deserved it and Isaan was cleaned of that scums and the villagers clapped their hands when those bastards were executed by both police and army personals. For the 10% that bite the dust, shit happens and they are part of collateral damage. I remember the times in 2009 - 2010 when Thaksin was gone executions still was going stroing in Udon Thani and Sakon Nakhon. A bitch with was my neighbor and run a Yaba smuggling ring to Malaysia was killed with her son (23 years). They owned three houses, 4 SUV's, 7 tractors and our village had a great party when karma finally got back to her Great news, Hubby was killed, wife was killed and the son and all three were part of the Yaba gang for shipping drugs to Malaysia. If you complain about the extra judicial killings do as well complain about all those LM charges against innocent peoples.

I think Thailand should follow Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, Brunei on capital punishment of anything above 250 yaba pills, 500gr of Ganya and 100gr of Class 1 drugs and send this whole pack to the gallows and the problem with drugs is solved.

[ChrisY1]

Just let Interpol know...they'll issue the Red alert and job done...........it aint rocket science..!!

[Basil B]

Has anybody told Interpol???