Gringogazzer Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 stop with the Phuket bashing ......... there's mafia everywhere in Thailand , look at Pattaya, Kanchaburi., Bangkok, .......... This story has gone from a moule hill into a mountain .... because of the local rioters. What they did was illegal and they should be punished. As the police said ' likely most were drunk and high ' I feel discussing the obvious isnot bashing. If in the future something happens in Pattaya or Kanchaburi or Bangkok we will in all probablity discuss that there at that time also. When the topic is Phuket that is what is discussed. Any day with wan in it then. The place is a soap opera. Only to be believed when seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 This shows how criminal Phuket really is. When people who are drug dealers get killed because of their actions the town people riot in support. Sounds like Baltimore. Phuket is so corrupt all citizens support crime and will riot if challenged. I wouldnot go there for any reason. Phuket is one big ghetto full of crime. Drugs scams mafia violence..Totally and utter bs. Steven, what is BS in his quote? The criminality in Phuket or his pov re rioters...? I would like to hear your take on it because to my mind there is not much attractive about Phuket. Compared to Pattaya it is very attractive, the scenery is not too bad either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) stop with the Phuket bashing ......... there's mafia everywhere in Thailand , look at Pattaya, Kanchaburi., Bangkok, .......... This story has gone from a moule hill into a mountain .... because of the local rioters. What they did was illegal and they should be punished. As the police said ' likely most were drunk and high ' punished?? So it's OK that the RTP are judge, jury and executioner? nothing to see here move along...... Seems we had a PM a few years back who thought so, to the tune of something like 3000 (reported) executions. Therefore it seems that I might just be ok - for some to consider it as acceptable. Edited October 13, 2015 by Artisi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilli42 Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 The usual blah, blah, blah. Everyone knows no legal action will be taken as it will raise more questions about things the RTP will not wish to be in the public domain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob12345 Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 stop with the Phuket bashing ......... there's mafia everywhere in Thailand , look at Pattaya, Kanchaburi., Bangkok, .......... This story has gone from a moule hill into a mountain .... because of the local rioters. What they did was illegal and they should be punished. As the police said ' likely most were drunk and high ' punished?? So it's OK that the RTP are judge, jury and executioner? nothing to see here move along...... Seems we had a PM a few years back who thought so, to the tune of something like 3000 (reported) executions. Therefore it seems that I might just be ok - for some to consider it as acceptable. "Likely most were drunk and high" refers to the rioters. And yes, they should be punished. Or you think its fine to block roads and torch cars?Of course they should be punished after found guilty by a judge. Not sure where you got the idea that someone claims the RTP should be judge, jury, and executioner as that was never said in the posts quoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 stop with the Phuket bashing ......... there's mafia everywhere in Thailand , look at Pattaya, Kanchaburi., Bangkok, .......... This story has gone from a moule hill into a mountain .... because of the local rioters. What they did was illegal and they should be punished. As the police said ' likely most were drunk and high ' punished?? So it's OK that the RTP are judge, jury and executioner? nothing to see here move along...... Seems we had a PM a few years back who thought so, to the tune of something like 3000 (reported) executions. Therefore it seems that I might just be ok - for some to consider it as acceptable. "Likely most were drunk and high" refers to the rioters. And yes, they should be punished. Or you think its fine to block roads and torch cars?Of course they should be punished after found guilty by a judge. Not sure where you got the idea that someone claims the RTP should be judge, jury, and executioner as that was never said in the posts quoted. Bob, don't get too excited or serious before carefully reading and comprehending what was said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bongoz Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 stop with the Phuket bashing ......... there's mafia everywhere in Thailand , look at Pattaya, Kanchaburi., Bangkok, .......... This story has gone from a moule hill into a mountain .... because of the local rioters. What they did was illegal and they should be punished. As the police said ' likely most were drunk and high ' punished?? So it's OK that the RTP are judge, jury and executioner? nothing to see here move along...... Seems we had a PM a few years back who thought so, to the tune of something like 3000 (reported) executions. Therefore it seems that I might just be ok - for some to consider it as acceptable. "Likely most were drunk and high" refers to the rioters. And yes, they should be punished. Or you think its fine to block roads and torch cars?Of course they should be punished after found guilty by a judge. Not sure where you got the idea that someone claims the RTP should be judge, jury, and executioner as that was never said in the posts quoted. M'lord the witness states "Likely most were drunk and high". I suggest we take that as being factual and proven and entered into the courts transcripts as such. Again m'lord the witness testified "What they did was illegal and they should be punished." Because the witness was there and saw the events unfold, I again suggest we conclude that statement be recorded as truthful and accurate. The witness fully understands Thai law and can determine what is illegal and what is legal. This punishment fits the crime... The prosecution rests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 The police should have picked out the leaders and shot them! Pretty strong language. Why are you so wound up over this? Including 3 likes on this makes a total of 4 over the top hostile people and I find this truly strange. Its a Thai problem and I think the violent response by people was the result of a lot of pent up anger and frustration. Just hope that this does not become another "Remember The Alamo" moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 I have a feeling that the riots were not really about two dead dug dealers; more about the daily frustrations the population had while dealing with a totally corrupt police force Yes and a bit more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phycokiller Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 if the police cant defend their own station from a few druggies with stones they are certainly incompetent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeckosDiving Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 The punks didn't stop for the police check point so they must of had something to hide !! Why else run ? please don't give me BS about scared from the BIB's !! I don't like them ether, and I know what can happen if you do a runner it can end just like these two punks did. Drug dealers and ten foot tall and bullet proof !! So they thought but it wasn't bullets that killed them it was their own STUPIDITY !! plain and simple. Maybe the parents should have been more involved in their on goings, but I'm sure it's more like my little somchai would never do that !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 I am sure it was quite and event. I would love to see the people that torched the cars get caught. I am 100% in favor of protests, peaceful protests. Riots that damage innocent and uninvolved people and property irks me. I would be stunned if they actually prosecute anybody. And even if they did, most involved probably have no means to pay for a destroyed car, or two or ten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lekong Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) After reading some comments of TV members, I have come to realize what perverted, naive and fanatical minds some members have. Even though the RTP are so corrupt as we all have been saying. Are they corrupt when someone runs a Police check point? If you were being followed by a Police car and you realize that, will you stop to find out what is wrong or you will start running to create an impression in their minds? When you run from the Police, there is 100% sure there is something that you don't want them to see or know. If not, why do you run from a check point? A check point is set up to control and check for something. Since you know you have something to hide, the best way is to run. In running, you put yourself in harms way. The result of your running could be fatal. In the case of the two victims, it was indeed. The two guys are to blame and not the RTP. The Police were doing just their job and we the citizens shouldn't make their work more difficult for them. Had they stopped, there would have been no chase and no one would have died. Are the Police given the right to chase people who refused to stop at check points? The answer is yes. Those who do drugs will always find excuses to support their accomplices. "Tell me your friend and I tell you who you are". "Oh if our son was doing drugs, we should be very rich, etc". Your son is not doing drugs but his friend is a former convicted drug dealer. Your son's friend is a person who disobey the law. Your son was a bad boy. The RTP are this, they are that but in this case, they were very very right. I really hope that the rioters will face the strong arm of the law. If everyone was running from Police control then the lives of many bystanders will be in danger because of the constant chases. Edited October 13, 2015 by Lekong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajtom Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 JOKER Legal action will be taken on the police that killed the 2 boys and no police have any authority to try and kick anyone off any bike. They are not executioners or are they ? Same old stuff talk good to stop them and attack after Wheres the Thainess there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob12345 Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 M'lord the witness states "Likely most were drunk and high". I suggest we take that as being factual and proven and entered into the courts transcripts as such. Again m'lord the witness testified "What they did was illegal and they should be punished." Because the witness was there and saw the events unfold, I again suggest we conclude that statement be recorded as truthful and accurate. The witness fully understands Thai law and can determine what is illegal and what is legal. This punishment fits the crime... The prosecution rests. FACT: the roads were blocked FACT: cars were torched FACT: torching cars is illegal (or do you want to contest this?) All I am saying is that the ones who blocked the road and torched the cars should be prosecuted. Were those people drunk? I dont care, drunk or not they should be prosecuted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathon Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 "...speeding away from a police checkpoint" That is where the primary blame lies. Unless they shot them the police were only doing their job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MockingJay Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) To all drug runner sympathizers and "oh, those poor boys (one was 22!) whiners": I say, no sympathies and no pardon, neither for check point dodging drug dealers, nor for thugs who riot over the RTP (finally, and at least in this case) doing their job!!!If I were the judge, all rioters would be charged to pay full compensation for the damage (if they have no assets to be impounded I'd give them an enforced bank loan or something that keeps them busy working their butts off for at least 10 years) plus 2 years without possibility of parole or pardon in the slammer each to get enough time to meditate about the Pros and Cons of damaging public/government property. Any drug dealer knows that dodging a checkpoint most likely will result in a police chase and/or getting shot at and/or getting killed by accident during the chase. They made their choice, they paid the price. Simple as that!Deal with it and stop making excuses and assumptions that put those thugs in the position or martyr or hero! I believe that only people who have criminal potential themselves would think that way (coming up with cheap excuses for rioters and dealers)! Edited October 13, 2015 by MockingJay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 RTP bashing is not needed in this case. They do have the video evidence so anyone can make up their own mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxisrael Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 This shows how criminal Phuket really is. When people who are drug dealers get killed because of their actions the town people riot in support. Sounds like Baltimore. Phuket is so corrupt all citizens support crime and will riot if challenged. I wouldnot go there for any reason. Phuket is one big ghetto full of crime. Drugs scams mafia violence..Totally and utter bs. Steven, what is BS in his quote?The criminality in Phuket or his pov re rioters...? I would like to hear your take on it because to my mind there is not much attractive about Phuket. Every sentence is total nonsense. Steven L has a business in Patong / Phuket so he will defend every "attack" on criminal Phuket............................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bongoz Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) M'lord the witness states "Likely most were drunk and high". I suggest we take that as being factual and proven and entered into the courts transcripts as such. Again m'lord the witness testified "What they did was illegal and they should be punished." Because the witness was there and saw the events unfold, I again suggest we conclude that statement be recorded as truthful and accurate. The witness fully understands Thai law and can determine what is illegal and what is legal. This punishment fits the crime... The prosecution rests. FACT: the roads were blocked FACT: cars were torched FACT: torching cars is illegal (or do you want to contest this?) All I am saying is that the ones who blocked the road and torched the cars should be prosecuted. Were those people drunk? I dont care, drunk or not they should be prosecuted. "Likely most were drunk and high" refers to the rioters. And yes, they should be punished. Or you think its fine to block roads and torch cars? All I am saying is that the ones who blocked the road and torched the cars should be prosecuted. punished or prosecuted? please make up your mind... edit: formatting (removing excess spaces) Edited October 13, 2015 by bongoz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optad Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Totally and utter bs. Steven, what is BS in his quote?The criminality in Phuket or his pov re rioters...? I would like to hear your take on it because to my mind there is not much attractive about Phuket. Every sentence is total nonsense. Steven L has a business in Patong / Phuket so he will defend every "attack" on criminal Phuket............................ Makes sense. I have to say Steven's lack of perspective and ability to expand when asked made some kind of partisan association evident. Oddly enough it really should enable him to comment more broadly than his eloquent "nonsense" or "BS". The readership here is experienced, Thai~wizened wise to lol at that level of argument. Whatever floats his boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiguzzi Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Re, the headline in the OP - good. As my missus pointed out, re the riot, try that in downtown KK or Udon at the moment, and see how fast you get a military response. Fast. Very fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimamey Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 "Throughout the riot, police were armed with just shields," Chakthip said. Seems a bit odd. Where I live they're usually armed doing the shopping at Tescos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brer Fox Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Increasing violence + increasing lawlessness + increasing corruption ultimately leads to anarchy. Sadly that is the longer term direction Thailand is headed unless something changes which is unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob12345 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 punished or prosecuted? please make up your mind... No, I will not make up my mind. They should be first prosecuted AND then punished. Where I come from these things go hand in hand: you first prosecute someone and when found guilty you punish them. And in this case it is pretty clear that laws have been violated and therefore punishment should follow. Or are you still in doubt that blocking roads and torching cars is illegal? I hope nothing of this sounds strange to you. p.s. For some reason I fail to understand the point you are trying to make here. I get the feeling you are just replying to have the last say instead of really not understanding what is happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman20 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 how dare these arsonist challenge the mafia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optad Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 punished or prosecuted? please make up your mind... No, I will not make up my mind. They should be first prosecuted AND then punished. Not in my house. I am routinely punished first and offered the prosecution later when things get a little better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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