divorce with baby in middle

[Straight8]

i can't even figure out what he's asking

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A man hug, mate!!!

Edited October 16, 2015 by Straight8

[MaeJoMTB]

i can't even figure out what he's asking

A man hug, mate!!!

But we've all seen this post too many times for that.

There's another one going at this very moment, same game, different OP.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/863223-how-do-i-get-custody-of-my-thai-son/

Edited October 16, 2015 by MaeJoMTB

[Straight8]

Walk

She will beg you to take the baby. Remember that their values or not the same as yours.

Alot of Thais I know laugh at how we allow ex wives to use kids against us.

Well to be fair, I think its worse in the west in how ex's use their kids as leverage to rape the hubby through his wallet within an inch of his life

[fry30]

@Straight8, lol, I already explained what I'm asking but indeed some compassion would not hurt however that was my choice and I knew the risk so I can't complain much, just try to get the best of it.

[Straight8]

i can't even figure out what he's asking

A man hug, mate!!!

But we've all seen this post too many times for that.

There's another one going at this very moment, same game, different OP.

i"m bettting the OP hasn't else he wouldn't be in this situation....maybe?

[MaeJoMTB]

i can't even figure out what he's asking

A man hug, mate!!!

But we've all seen this post too many times for that.

There's another one going at this very moment, same game, different OP.

i"m bettting the OP hasn't else he wouldn't be in this situation....maybe?

They all start ...... she was never a hooker .......

They all end ...... I lost the house, car and baby .......

[fry30]

@MaeJom, that's why I said my story is very typical.

just need to know if I can be liable for her future debts and if she can change my baby last name

[maprao]

Walk

She will beg you to take the baby. Remember that their values or not the same as yours.

Alot of Thais I know laugh at how we allow ex wives to use kids against us.

Well to be fair, I think its worse in the west in how ex's use their kids as leverage to rape the hubby through his wallet within an inch of his life

That's my point they try to emulate western women in this respect. Knowing we allow it. Hence my advice of "walk" and watch her lose interest in the kid Edited October 16, 2015 by maprao

[Straight8]

@Straight8, lol, I already explained what I'm asking but indeed some compassion would not hurt however that was my choice and I knew the risk so I can't complain much, just try to get the best of it.

I know Fry, just trying to make a little humour from a sad story dude!

Good luck with it, hope it works out, think your going to need at least a bit, but you will need to get yourself a lawyer and start proceedings so its all on record...

[MaeJoMTB]

@MaeJom, that's why I said my story is very typical.

just need to know if I can be liable for her future debts and if she can change my baby last name

No

No

But hey, Thailand is corrupt, with the right payments, she could have you killed then blackmail your parents.

[fry30]

@MaeJom, that's why I said my story is very typical.

just need to know if I can be liable for her future debts and if she can change my baby last name

No

No

But hey, Thailand is corrupt, with the right payments, she could have you killed then blackmail your parents.

How can she blackmail my parents if she kills me first, they would not pay for a dead son, they would not pay for an alive son either. I suppose it's thai logic so who knows.

[fry30]

@Straight8, lol, I already explained what I'm asking but indeed some compassion would not hurt however that was my choice and I knew the risk so I can't complain much, just try to get the best of it.

I know Fry, just trying to make a little humour from a sad story dude!

Good luck with it, hope it works out, think your going to need at least a bit, but you will need to get yourself a lawyer and start proceedings so its all on record...

Thanks for the joke, I wasn't sure it was well intentioned but otherwise indeed funny.

[fry30]

@MaeJom, that's why I said my story is very typical.

just need to know if I can be liable for her future debts and if she can change my baby last name

No

No

But hey, Thailand is corrupt, with the right payments, she could have you killed then blackmail your parents.

I did read that during marriage if the spouse get debt both partners share the debt but don't know if it's only under certain circumstances. You said if I'm not working here then I don't have to share the debt, any sources?

[MaeJoMTB]

How can she blackmail my parents if she kills me first, they would not pay for a dead son, they would not pay for an alive son either. I suppose it's thai logic so who knows.

A little story about my last gf ...... complete nutjob.

Had a baby with a Swedish fellow, then when it all went wrong, she had him killed (police recorded as hit and run).

She then opened negotiations with the guys Swedish parents to sell them their grandchild.

I stayed with her a while, there were family court appearances for the adoption, tearful relatives visiting.

Money was paid on a regular basis.

She was a great looking girl and a lot of fun, but dangerous, as so many of the girls are,

After a while I couldn't take it and moved on.

Don't know the final outcome.

Edited October 16, 2015 by MaeJoMTB

[fry30]

How can she blackmail my parents if she kills me first, they would not pay for a dead son, they would not pay for an alive son either. I suppose it's thai logic so who knows.

A little story about my last gf ...... complete nutjob.

Had a baby with a Swedish fellow, then when it all went wrong, she had him killed (police recorded as hit and run).

She then opened negotiations with the guys Swedish parents to sell them their grandchild.

I stayed with her a while, there were family court appearances for the adoption, tearful relatives visiting.

Money was paid on a regular basis.

She was a great looking girl and a lot of fun, but dangerous, as so many of the girls are,

After a while I couldn't take it and moved on.

Don't know the final outcome.

There is really a lot of people who deserve a painful death, horrible story.

I think if my future ex wife was trying this she could meet a very bad ending as well.

But no need yet to have dark thoughts for now.

However if I'm pushed too far I could be like any thai man...

[sendintheclowns]

hummm, you are not very good at guessing, I'm 36 and she is 27. Indeed meet on dating website but the possibilities aren't difficult to imagine,

I was bang on with her age .......

You put me off track with your age by saying you were getting a bit old for a kid.

I had two children in the UK when I was in my 30s, another when 42 and again at 45, then one in Thailand at age 56.

I'm still hoping for another one, 36 is not old!

You want to be a 70 year old 'dad' to a teenager? Good for you - that ought to keep you young ?

[mike324]

At 36, I would say you are still young to do a lot of stuff. Move away from her parents? is that an option? Seems like its the parents that is driving you guys apart.

[Mudcrab]

hummm, you are not very good at guessing, I'm 36 and she is 27. Indeed meet on dating website but the possibilities aren't difficult to imagine,

I was bang on with her age .......

You put me off track with your age by saying you were getting a bit old for a kid.

I had two children in the UK when I was in my 30s, another when 42 and again at 45, then one in Thailand at age 56.

I'm still hoping for another one, 36 is not old!

Poor, poor kids. Sad really.

The man whore father wants more.

[Thongkorn]

Thai culture is to look after ones parents, The Thai Family will always come first, It does not matter if the Female half is a Bar girl or So called big money girl. It does not matter where the Female comes from, I have seen this type of story so many times, also Thai women seem to drop kids with no regard or impact to their life or the child, They seem to think having a child is some type of security. It mostly turns out to be an emotional tool to be used later, This happens not only in Thailand, but the same does happen in many other country's, basically its a culture clash. Life is cheap,in Thailand, especially if you have money, Money is power. Most know, probably the same can be said in any or most other country's around the worlds, Maybe i am one of the lucky ones, My wife and her Family never asks for one baht, and they are very poor, or was. But My wife will always put her family first. I except this becasue I get treat the same as them , been married 8 years now, I cannot see into the future who knows maybe i am next.

[ozyjon]

When you go past a house with the women and girls

talking outside, do you wonder what they are talking

about? I do and asked my girl, oh she said, they

talk about how to get falang husband, build house, buy

new car, if they not give money, get new falang, like me.

[cardinalblue]

Try to put all land house property etc in the name of the child and list yourself/someone trustworthy as the guardian up to age 20 for the child....

This is your only leverage that at least your money/assets goes towards the child's future...

CB

[ALFREDO]

Rural Thai people have nothing. They live communal lives.

No fridge, no furniture, few personal possessions.

They don't know how to care for their own personal property, let alone yours.

Living in a rural area rarely works for foreigners.

Most of the foreign guys living in the boonies go insane or become drunks.

You have not been in rural TH for a long time.

Nearly every household has a fridge and a TV - flat TV mostly nowadays, dozens of cheap mobiles and more or less expensive smart phones with facebook and Internet connection and at least one or more motorbikes,

some have even cars.

Most of the foreign guys living in the boonies are -already coming- insane, same me. or coming as drunks and drink here then the same or more.

Edited October 16, 2015 by ALFREDO

[fry30]

Good new, she contacted my mother to explain she loves me and want to keep the family together, a bit childish way but at least she tried to find a middle ground.

So she accepted to see her mother in bkk only and to don't bring her at our house.

She has all the cards on her hands so it's likely genuine but who knows.

My plan was to securise my family then myself, I will buy the car in my name and save. I will probably put the money in my brother bank account, just in case...

[fry30]

@Cardinalblue,

thanks for the advise, I will follow it for all future assets

[Ridge]

If i were you Fry30, I would focus on getting a job back home and visit Thailand every now and then. You will learn sooner or later that money is the key to everything in Thailand. I would assume you are using a marriage visa, so that will be canceled as soon as you get divorced.

So the only chance to stay in Thailand will be to get a decent job with work permit VERY soon. A job without work permit (and for example ED visa) puts you at the mercy of anybody happy to report you and you will be banned from entering Thailand for some time. Risky.

I would not put to much pressure on your wife, otherwise she will move for a while and you will not find your child back. Or indeed something will happen to you, "motorbike accident". So lay low for a while and at least, you will see the child regularly (even if just from a distance) until you are in a better condition, financially and emotionally, to take action. By that time, your wife will also have calmed down. Much better to agree on things.

Good luck. You will need all the support you can get. Contact you family and make sure they know what is going on because its going to be a rough ride. And stay away from the bottle and the women if you know what i mean. Seen some decent guys ending up broke, lonely and homeless.

[fry30]

Thank you Ridge, I worked before in Thailand, with the work permit, I don't take risk, now waiting to get work permit then once I got it I will start work.

I don't drink and I don't smoke, I'm not much of a party guy. For the women good advice, I would not do anything before to get divorced.

Now everything seems ok, all she wants is to be able to see her mother and all I want is to don't see her mother or involve the kids too much with her.

She agreed to see her in bkk only and to don't bring her at our home.