Job title for teaching job without degree

[soreia]

A friend of mine is looking for a teaching job at a government school. As he does not have the qualifications/no BA, he cannot officially work as an English teacher. I have heard from people working in government schoosl without degrees and I am wondering if anyone knows What job title they used to get the work permit. Would "language consultant" or "assistant teacher' work?
I have looked in older threads but could not find a satisfying answer.
Would be great if you could help my friend with this. Pls. only post serious answers.

[oncearugge]

Is your "friend" employed as a "teacher" in his own country ?

If not why is he looking for a "teaching" job in Thailand?

Edit

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[Soutpeel]

"Language consultant " LOL.... no qualifications, most likely no experience...."a consultant" on the basis of being able to speak his native language.....priceless

[PattayaPhom]

I believe its language schools that do not require a degree, Government schools do, so he will not be getting a work permit without the qualifications and your question then is a moot point. Yes many are working but they have no WP

[Colabamumbai]

Previously I had taught at many government schools without showing a degree, a diploma was fine both for Non B and W.P.

[willyumiii]

Language consultant, Language counselor or Language teaching assistant all work.

Most NES can actually speak the languagewell, with a degree in teaching or without.

Sadly, many non NES and most Thai English teachers can not speak it correctly, if at all.

[smotherb]

Is your "friend" employed as a "teacher" in his own country ?

If not why is he looking for a "teaching" job in Thailand?

Edit

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Well, maybe he would like to earn a little money while in Thailand and teaching English is a way to do so.

[jacksam]

Title without degree........babysitter springs to mind

[gandalf12]

How about unqualified?

[johnno2]

as far as I know, its up to the school that is going to employ you to get around the problem. government schools up country will usually employ someone without a degree if the person is the "best one" they have interviewed. the closer you get to Bangkok, the harder it is to get a job without a degree. an oz mate has worked here for about 8 years without a degree in government schools at ubon and other places like that. he only has a diploma from a TAFE college in Australia. a private school don't normally have a problem employing someone without a degree

[smotherb]

"Language consultant " LOL.... no qualifications, most likely no experience...."a consultant" on the basis of being able to speak his native language.....priceless

Yes, consultant is a very over-used term; somewhat like engineer.

[smotherb]

Language consultant, Language counselor or Language teaching assistant all work.

Most NES can actually speak the languagewell, with a degree in teaching or without.

Sadly, many non NES and most Thai English teachers can not speak it correctly, if at all.

Even more sadly, many NES cannot speak, read, or write English proficiently.

[asdecas]

Pity the poor children. Things have come to a pretty pass when any and every John or Wendy thinks that the ability to speak their native language - more often than not incoherently and inarticulately - qualifies them to inflict their 'skills' and 'empathy' on another nation's youth, for the sake of a spot of travel money.

Make no mistake, there are fantastic teachers in this world who have taught successfully for decades but are entirely unqualified, just as there are over-qualified nonentities who bore their classes of children to death daily.

But there must surely be some standard on the middle ground, and most certainly this kind of casual, 'think I might try my hand at teaching for a few weeks 'cos I need some cash', is not it.

[jacksam]

You can teach in Vietnam. I see so many drop outs there with job title teacher.

[puukao]

people teach sports and never played

stockbrokers teaching on stock market when they never invest

teach how to find true love and single..

so, yes, please join the gang!!!! but is it right?? is it the best for the kids?? what if you had kids??? is selfishness for money so powerful as to ruin the future of a kid??? maybe do it right and be a role model to the kids, they are not that dumb. must i explain how the mind develops as you get a BA?? and the silent lost confidence will ruin generations...........you must decide.....

[Too]

as far as I know, its up to the school that is going to employ you to get around the problem. government schools up country will usually employ someone without a degree if the person is the "best one" they have interviewed. the closer you get to Bangkok, the harder it is to get a job without a degree. an oz mate has worked here for about 8 years without a degree in government schools at ubon and other places like that. he only has a diploma from a TAFE college in Australia. a private school don't normally have a problem employing someone without a degree

Yes, it depends upon the school.

I know one Englishman who's been teaching at a government school

in my town for years on a Non-O and doesn't have a degree.

[TEFLKrabi]

Guys,

Get over your dislike for native speakers who want to work and add something to the local schools. Most NES can do a very good job either alone or alongside a Thai teacher and I wish the government would relax the restrictions a little, maybe insisting on a short teacher training course only.

[Friendly Stranger]

Work permit without a degree teaching in Thailand? Getting a wp in that field is a task in itself.

Go to an ajarn.com and ask there for your friend.

[crickets]

You probably can get the work permit but not the teacher licence. You need a degree to get that but you might be lucky and get a waiver. Good luck. PS a lot of goverment schools dont care about having the permit or not. Out of the 50 teachers i have been at schools with 3 had work permits. Go figure.

[KonaRain]

Teacher's licence or not, many people are better than college idiots.

Period.

Go for it..

[brewsterbudgen]

Is your "friend" employed as a "teacher" in his own country ?

If not why is he looking for a "teaching" job in Thailand?

Edit

You might receive a better response by posting in the Teaching in Thailand Forum

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/forum/46-teaching-in-thailand-forum/

TEFL teaching is completely different to general teaching, and it's normally an advantage to be "new" to teaching if you want to succeed at it. Experienced teachers tend to have pre-conceived ideas that do not relate well to learners of a foreign language. However, it is recommended that you do a TEFL course with some real teaching practice, like a CELTA.

[Bernard Flint]

Ilegal immigrant

criminal

any more ?????

[aronp1]

Previously I had taught at many government schools without showing a degree, a diploma was fine both for Non B and W.P.

Key word is "Previously". Not going to happen now.

[aronp1]

"Job title for teaching job without a degree"? Unemployed.

[ubonjoe]

From the police order clause 2.7 for teaching at a private school. They should be the same for government school.

"Educational Personnel is:

Person performing librarian, guidance, educational technology, registration and evaluation, general administration, supporter of education as specified by the Private Education Commission"

[anon4546543]

In the small rural area that I live in, I get invited to speak, not teach at the English class at the school. The English class teacher wants me to assist her with teaching. My Thai wife worries that if I do, I could get into trouble. But the amphur and provincial education authorities want me to. So, I intend to but I will do it for free. Can I still get into trouble for doing that?

[oncearugge]

In the small rural area that I live in, I get invited to speak, not teach at the English class at the school. The English class teacher wants me to assist her with teaching. My Thai wife worries that if I do, I could get into trouble. But the amphur and provincial education authorities want me to. So, I intend to but I will do it for free. Can I still get into trouble for doing that?

YES

Your wife is correct.

Obtain letters giving permission for you to work (illegally) from the Amphur, the Education Authority and the Department of Labour.

Once the letters are obtained you should be OK.

[Liquorice]

Guys,

Get over your dislike for native speakers who want to work and add something to the local schools. Most NES can do a very good job either alone or alongside a Thai teacher and I wish the government would relax the restrictions a little, maybe insisting on a short teacher training course only.

A short Teacher Training Course for NES..............in what Language?

[brewsterbudgen]

Guys,

Get over your dislike for native speakers who want to work and add something to the local schools. Most NES can do a very good job either alone or alongside a Thai teacher and I wish the government would relax the restrictions a little, maybe insisting on a short teacher training course only.

A short Teacher Training Course for NES..............in what Language?

English. Not much point in it being in any other language!

[mikecat]

It is possible to get a job in both Government and private schools without a degree. The basic rules are this

The title doesn't represent a job that's on the banned list for foreigners.

You can show prior experience in that or similar role

that you have proven qualifications i.e diploma or city and guilds etc.

The title of the job isn't such that it would require sanctioning from the Teachers Council. Once they are involved you will need a degree.

Both my local Labour Office and Immigration are ok with this although because of the job title you will have to wait 30 days whilst your papers are sent to Bangkok for review. If this happens it is normally just a formality.

As mentioned above, these are just general guidelines and will vary from day to day and region to region.

Basically your resume, references and education certificates will have to reflect experience in that particular role or similar.

Good luck