webfact Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Red faces in Moscow after France blamed for Swiss fighter jet incident with Russian politician MOSCOW: -- Russia initially summoned the French ambassador to complain that a private plane carrying the Speaker of the lower house of parliament had been involved in a “dangerous incident” with a fighter jet over Switzerland.Then the Swiss revealed it was one of their aircraft, and that it conducted a routine identification check on the Geneva-bound jet in Swiss air space.Moscow, which had threatened not to use France as a venue for international meetings inretaliation, later apologised for the mistake.Sergei Naryshkin, an ally of President Vladimir Putin, was on his way to an international meeting of parliamentarians. -- (c) Copyright Euronews 2015-10-20
Gulfsailor Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Well, not the first time Russia misidentified a plane. At least a Swiss fighter may look similar to a French one, whereas a commercial Malaysian flagged plane looks rather different than a Ukrainian military transport plane....
anthos Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 There are no more politicians in Russia, 100% of the parliament consists of Putin's puppets. And no they are not allowed to be ashamed of anything these days, so a red face is a thing from another world as well.
MobileContent Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 There are no more politicians in Russia, 100% of the parliament consists of Putin's puppets. And no they are not allowed to be ashamed of anything these days, so a red face is a thing from another world as well. Remembers me very much on Thailand but looking at Russia in Syria I am looking forward for a cleanup.
RickBradford Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Have people suddenly forgotten about the USS Vincennes ? I know it was way back in 1988 but such short memories ? That was in an active war zone, and the ship was under attack by Iranian gunboats at the time, according to the captain.Hardly the same as cruising through the Swiss Alps. Yes, not the same, but also a big mistake. More understandable -- when ships from a country are attacking you, and an unidentified airplane from the direction of that country is heading your way, well, the stress builds, and as we know, heightened stress leads to lower quality decisions. (Edited for clarity).
RickBradford Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 So you are saying that a state of the art warship can't distinguish between an F17 fighter jet and a passenger airline on a routine flight and that posed no actual threat to the ship so it was an accident ? Of course it can. But stress, especially at the level when you are under physical attack, has devastating effects on people's rational decision making. It's a pity we can't put you on the Vincennes, Iranian gunboats firing machine guns at you, and see how you would have handled a mysterious radar plot, an aircraft on its way from Iran, which didn't answer your contacts on either civilian or military frequencies. The lives of 400 of your fellow crew members may depend on you. They made a mistake, but an understandable one.
konying Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Unlike some others , at least Russia was "man " enough to admit it's mistake and apologise.
metisdead Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Off topic posts and replies have been removed.
Langsuan Man Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 Unlike some others , at least Russia was "man " enough to admit it's mistake and apologise. Too bad they never apologized for downing a Korean Airlines Flight 007, a 747-230B that they thought was a fighter jet, a mistake that killed 269 passengers and crew
luk AJ Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 Do you have proof of these accusations? If so, please forward them to Nato...Malaysia etc...
luk AJ Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 Do you have proof of these accusations? If so, please forward them to Nato...Malaysia etc...Sorry my mistake, i thought you referred to flight MH 17.
Langsuan Man Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 Do you have proof of these accusations? If so, please forward them to Nato...Malaysia etc...Sorry my mistake, i thought you referred to flight MH 17. Well, now that you mention it , they never apologized or admitted responsibility for that disaster either: http://news.thaivisa.com/world/russia-refutes-dutch-probe-into-mh17-crash/117500/
JohnDodd Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 I see the the consumers of the deranged main stream media and its scripted demonisation of Putin all agree on this. Typical.
Langsuan Man Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 He is really easy to demonize since, IMHO, he is a demon
Chicog Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 Unlike some others , at least Russia was "man " enough to admit it's mistake and apologise. Too bad they never apologized for downing a Korean Airlines Flight 007, a 747-230B that they thought was a fighter jet, a mistake that killed 269 passengers and crew As well as hiding the flight recorders in a safe for years to cover it up.
Naam Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 I see the the consumers of the deranged main stream media and its scripted demonisation of Putin all agree on this. Typical.
Naam Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 Every country should boycott Russsia yeah! let's start with boycotting the boyfriends of any good looking Russian girls holidaying in Thailand.
Naam Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 Unlike some others , at least Russia was "man " enough to admit it's mistake and apologise. Too bad they never apologized for downing a Korean Airlines Flight 007, a 747-230B that they thought was a fighter jet, a mistake that killed 269 passengers and crew As well as hiding the flight recorders in a safe for years to cover it up. you saw that safe?
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