Decided to get my old bread maker out again but cannot find anywhere in pattaya

[n210mp]

to find powdered skimmed milk, can anyone help?

[innerspace]

Would baby milk powder or coffeemate work? Otherwise not sure, don't use milk in any of my bread making.

[mrjohn]

If you think you need milk to make bread, maybe you need to think again.

[gamini]

you can get low-fat milk powder as all Tesco shops. It will not make your bread taste any difference from skim milk powder, I have not been able to get skim milk powder anywhere for quite some time. So I used low fat instead.

[avidflyer]

Friendship Market has a new annex whose stated mission is to supply goods for bakeries and restaurants. Slim pickins, seems to me...

[KittenKong]

you can get low-fat milk powder as all Tesco shops. It will not make your bread taste any difference from skim milk powder, I have not been able to get skim milk powder anywhere for quite some time. So I used low fat instead.

Is there any big difference between the two? Skimming just removes the cream on top, which is where the fat is anyway.

One other option would be to use liquid skimmed (or low-fat) milk instead of some of the water.

As for putting milk powder into bread in the first place, I believe that many American bread recipes do indeed include milk powder, and so does standard American factory-made bread. I think it does here too in some loaves.

Personally I'm a sour dough and wholemeal freak, so milk is a complete no-no.

[OMGImInPattaya]

What's the difference between skim milk powder and skim milk in a baking recipe... once you add your liquids to the recipe using the powder it becomes skim milk liquid anyways. So why not just use skim milk, which is easy to find, in the first place?

[vogie]

The only reason for using powdered milk as opposed to iquid is, if you use the automatic setting to make bread next morning the liquid milk will have gone off.

[n210mp]

Thanks for the info

I am not a cook or bread maker so I'm stuck with the instructions that came with the bread maker, which says to add powdered skimmed milk to the mix

I did add some milk powder which I learned after the event contained supplements , you know the kind of stuff you take when you are calcium or some vitamin deficient, it didn't work and stopped the yeast from doing its job (I think)

So another question which maybe Vogie can answer;

If I add normal milk in its liquid form do I need to lessen the amount of water added to the mix because of the added liquid in the milk?

Thanks to all those who answered in an helpful manner

[OMGImInPattaya]

Thanks for the info

I am not a cook or bread maker so I'm stuck with the instructions that came with the bread maker, which says to add powdered skimmed milk to the mix

I did add some milk powder which I learned after the event contained supplements , you know the kind of stuff you take when you are calcium or some vitamin deficient, it didn't work and stopped the yeast from doing its job (I think)

So another question which maybe Vogie can answer;

If I add normal milk in its liquid form do I need to lessen the amount of water added to the mix because of the added liquid in the milk?

Thanks to all those who answered in an helpful manner

OMG is not Vogie but he does fancy himself a decent home cook...so he'll chime in on this: I would reduce the water by an equal amount to the amount of milk used. If you want to fortify it with extra iron and vitamins just add a bit of powdered baby formula to the mixture.

[vogie]

Thanks for the info

I am not a cook or bread maker so I'm stuck with the instructions that came with the bread maker, which says to add powdered skimmed milk to the mix

I did add some milk powder which I learned after the event contained supplements , you know the kind of stuff you take when you are calcium or some vitamin deficient, it didn't work and stopped the yeast from doing its job (I think)

So another question which maybe Vogie can answer;

If I add normal milk in its liquid form do I need to lessen the amount of water added to the mix because of the added liquid in the milk?

Thanks to all those who answered in an helpful manner

Yes use less water, but you need to experiment. Too much water the dough will be soggy and stick to the paddle, the dough must be workable and pliable. Its not rocket science though, too wet add more flour, too dry add water. Hope this makes sense.

[canopus1969]

If you think you need milk to make bread, maybe you need to think again

Errr look in the mirror as it is you who has no idea how to make bread.

[KC 71]

I miss uk bread - that said the green one from tesco seems ok

[vogie]

Thanks for the info

I am not a cook or bread maker so I'm stuck with the instructions that came with the bread maker, which says to add powdered skimmed milk to the mix

I did add some milk powder which I learned after the event contained supplements , you know the kind of stuff you take when you are calcium or some vitamin deficient, it didn't work and stopped the yeast from doing its job (I think)

So another question which maybe Vogie can answer;

If I add normal milk in its liquid form do I need to lessen the amount of water added to the mix because of the added liquid in the milk?

Thanks to all those who answered in an helpful manner

OMG is not Vogie but he does fancy himself a decent home cook...so he'll chime in on this: I would reduce the water by an equal amount to the amount of milk used. If you want to fortify it with extra iron and vitamins just add a bit of powdered baby formula to the mixture.

Why the attack? Only trying to help?

[KittenKong]

I would reduce the water by an equal amount to the amount of milk used.

Indeed.

[OMGImInPattaya]

Thanks for the info

I am not a cook or bread maker so I'm stuck with the instructions that came with the bread maker, which says to add powdered skimmed milk to the mix

I did add some milk powder which I learned after the event contained supplements , you know the kind of stuff you take when you are calcium or some vitamin deficient, it didn't work and stopped the yeast from doing its job (I think)

So another question which maybe Vogie can answer;

If I add normal milk in its liquid form do I need to lessen the amount of water added to the mix because of the added liquid in the milk?

Thanks to all those who answered in an helpful manner

OMG is not Vogie but he does fancy himself a decent home cook...so he'll chime in on this: I would reduce the water by an equal amount to the amount of milk used. If you want to fortify it with extra iron and vitamins just add a bit of powdered baby formula to the mixture.

Why the attack? Only trying to help?

What attack...just an attempt at humor. Sorry if it offended you. ☺

[vogie]

Thanks for the info

I am not a cook or bread maker so I'm stuck with the instructions that came with the bread maker, which says to add powdered skimmed milk to the mix

I did add some milk powder which I learned after the event contained supplements , you know the kind of stuff you take when you are calcium or some vitamin deficient, it didn't work and stopped the yeast from doing its job (I think)

So another question which maybe Vogie can answer;

If I add normal milk in its liquid form do I need to lessen the amount of water added to the mix because of the added liquid in the milk?

Thanks to all those who answered in an helpful manner

OMG is not Vogie but he does fancy himself a decent home cook...so he'll chime in on this: I would reduce the water by an equal amount to the amount of milk used. If you want to fortify it with extra iron and vitamins just add a bit of powdered baby formula to the mixture.

Why the attack? Only trying to help?

What attack...just an attempt at humor. Sorry if it offended you. ☺

Sorry didn't understand your humour, maybe someone will explain it to me one day.

[robblok]

I use regular milk and i put it in the night before and it never goes off. Just my opinion not an expert cook here but have made many loafs of bread with my machine.

[OMGImInPattaya]

Thanks for the info

I am not a cook or bread maker so I'm stuck with the instructions that came with the bread maker, which says to add powdered skimmed milk to the mix

I did add some milk powder which I learned after the event contained supplements , you know the kind of stuff you take when you are calcium or some vitamin deficient, it didn't work and stopped the yeast from doing its job (I think)

So another question which maybe Vogie can answer;

If I add normal milk in its liquid form do I need to lessen the amount of water added to the mix because of the added liquid in the milk?

Thanks to all those who answered in an helpful manner

OMG is not Vogie but he does fancy himself a decent home cook...so he'll chime in on this: I would reduce the water by an equal amount to the amount of milk used. If you want to fortify it with extra iron and vitamins just add a bit of powdered baby formula to the mixture.

Why the attack? Only trying to help?

What attack...just an attempt at humor. Sorry if it offended you. ☺

Sorry didn't understand your humour, maybe someone will explain it to me one day.

If you ate not a native English speaker my post may have been confusing as I was referring to myself in the "third person " tense where one, when talking about themselves, would speak in the first person tense. The op asked you to respond further and I sorta butted in so made a joke about this.

[n210mp]

Thanks Guys for all your input.

Will experiment on the amount of water v milk added

[WitawatWatawit]

Try a few variations. Like potato bread (one of my favourites from back in the day when I made bread). I have two very old bread-making books, one of which is a very detailed and lengthy history of breads - good reading with every conceivable recipe included. Would like to photograph it for posterity.

[n210mp]

Try a few variations. Like potato bread (one of my favourites from back in the day when I made bread). I have two very old bread-making books, one of which is a very detailed and lengthy history of breads - good reading with every conceivable recipe included. Would like to photograph it for posterity.

yes thanks for that Wita etc

I think that I must be entering some kind of second childhood because I have also recently made my own meat and potato pies again.

I sort of remembered the recipe and the result wasn't too bad but then after with hindsight looked at Jamie Oliver's recipes for Ozzie meat and potato pie that included cheese in the making of the pastry, I certainly am going to try that recipe

[innerspace]

According to Google I'm not crazy for being surprised about milk in bread, not been in my countless successful loaves but may be in my next.

It's an optional supplement that can add some flavour and sweetness but not essential, so if you struggle finding it just skip it and see how the bread goes.

[gk10002000]

I used to make bread weekly. I never found much improvement or difference using basic recipes with milk. I ended up with simple whole wheat flour, yeast, honey (not sugar for the yeasty boys to fed on), and decent water. Some tap water in some cities just tastes horrible. Easy peezy. When I visit home I put on my baker's hat and Mom and Sis love it. Bread making is a simple thing that the current generation just doesn't realize they miss. That smell of bread baking in the oven as you come in from the outside on a cool or rainy day. Pure comfort.