Why are most old men covered in Tattoos

[SoiBiker]

And ofcourse you are assuming that all marriages include a willing enthusiastic partner.

I feel sorry for anyone who ends up in one that doesn't.

i guess maybe that's how paying for it seems like a reasonable option. But not all men make such a mess of their love lives.

Me thinks thou does protest too much.

Really?

How tragic that your world has no place for a genuine relationship.

[namatjira]

It's just low class, how many surgeons or dentists have them ?

How many high court judges? Scientists? Bank managers? Barristers?

Does the queen of England have inked up " sleeves ", the king of Thailand ?

Get real all you cartoon people, turn around I want to read the other page.

Do half of these people even understand the " art " they are getting inked with,

What it means ? .....duh....or is it fashion because it looks good now.

Fashions come and go, tattoos don't.

If I have a heart attack I do not want to see my cardiac surgeon with love and

Hate on his knuckles, think I will find another one.....

It used to be a sign of low intelligence, guess what, it still is a sign of low intelligence.

Brillaint really because when you see these walking fashion cartoon people you know no need to worry,

They have less brains than a monkey, yep, instant IQ indicator..........

[SoiBiker]

It's just low class, how many surgeons or dentists have them ?

How many high court judges? Scientists? Bank managers? Barristers?

Does the queen of England have inked up " sleeves ", the king of Thailand ?

Get real all you cartoon people, turn around I want to read the other page.

Do half of these people even understand the " art " they are getting inked with,

What it means ? .....duh....or is it fashion because it looks good now.

Fashions come and go, tattoos don't.

If I have a heart attack I do not want to see my cardiac surgeon with love and

Hate on his knuckles, think I will find another one.....

It used to be a sign of low intelligence, guess what, it still is a sign of low intelligence.

Brillaint really because when you see these walking fashion cartoon people you know no need to worry,

They have less brains than a monkey, yep, instant IQ indicator..........

Whilst I'm no big fan of tattoos, I feel your attitude speaks more about you than it does about those with a little ink under their skin.

[Bangkokhatter]

It's just low class, how many surgeons or dentists have them ?

How many high court judges? Scientists? Bank managers? Barristers?

Does the queen of England have inked up " sleeves ", the king of Thailand ?

Get real all you cartoon people, turn around I want to read the other page.

Do half of these people even understand the " art " they are getting inked with,

What it means ? .....duh....or is it fashion because it looks good now.

Fashions come and go, tattoos don't.

If I have a heart attack I do not want to see my cardiac surgeon with love and

Hate on his knuckles, think I will find another one.....

It used to be a sign of low intelligence, guess what, it still is a sign of low intelligence.

Brillaint really because when you see these walking fashion cartoon people you know no need to worry,

They have less brains than a monkey, yep, instant IQ indicator..........

I gather from your post you consider yourself intelligent ?

[JoopJoop]

I'm early 40's and don't have a tat.

Many of my friends do however.

Yet, all of my friends in the homeland do not.

Of 2 close friends here in BKK, they also don't have a tat.

Perhaps a coincidence, but those 2 lads are in well matched relationships, as with me.

My friends with tats are nearly all with hookers.

It's just an observation.

I also notice a lot of older guys with ink up and down Suk but not around Lad Phrao/Phahonyothin. These parts of town being more settled and affluent. The +40 yo guys in this location are not inked. Again, just an observation.

Edited October 30, 2015 by JoopJoop

[cdnvic]

Please get back on topic and stop taking shots at each other.

[mad mary]

The fake snobbery & bravado on this forum tickles me.

[JoopJoop]

Military, maritime, or low self esteem/intellect.

That's my take on older guys having tats.

[metisdead]

An inflammatory post has been removed.

[TommyTucker]

[theguyfromanotherforum]

A doctor that loves god and practices medicine?

I guess he is not just a moron for being a tat freak.

[MaeJoMTB]

I can't imagine why anyone that has access to a willing enthusiastic partner would prefer someone who's only induced to take part by a financial imperative.

Try having sex with a 60 year old woman, then post again.

[SoiBiker]

I can't imagine why anyone that has access to a willing enthusiastic partner would prefer someone who's only induced to take part by a financial imperative.

Try having sex with a 60 year old woman, then post again.

Tell you what - when I'm 60 I'll give it a go and report back.

You reckon you'll be around to read it?

[rogeroc]

SoiBiker, on 30 Oct 2015 - 23:27, said:

I can't imagine why anyone that has access to a willing enthusiastic partner would prefer someone who's only induced to take part by a financial imperative.

I believe that most of us have been indoctrinated from birth (by a combination of parents, church, education, government) that the correct and best way to lead our life is in monogamy and therefore that only the best sex can be had in a willing / loving? relationship. We are also indoctrinated to believe that girls are 'made of sugar and spice and all things nice' Many of us of course realise sometime in our lives that neither of these indoctrinated beliefs are necessarily true. Regrettably many women are very strongly motivated for financial reasons, not just here in Thailand but in the West. Look in the female profiles on UK online dating columns or the lonely hearts newspaper ads. and in addition to the compulsory GSOH requirement i am sure you will also see 'must have own house / own car'! They are of course only interested in a loving relationship ??

I was married twice to English women both who pushed to marry me and i had a few enthusiastic gf's too so i would have expected that sex to be the best. Again this was not true the best sex i have had (by a margin) has been directly paid for. This initially seems strange but if you look at it logically (many women love money, many Oriental women in particular like to provide a good service for their earnings) it is not so surprising. A willing enthusiastic partner who is not looking for some significant financial provision may indeed be a rare breed so if you have it, great, keep it! I suspect many would be envious. Another reason why i can imagine some men may prefer the direct payment option is that it allows them greater levels of freedom and control within a relationship /s

I hope that this Post has sparked your imagination and assisted with your understanding.

I have just realised that this Post was originally about tattoo's. I personally prefer not to see them on either men or women but again it is a personal choice / preference and it is disappointing to see such a lot of labelling of people's preferences in his thread.

[MaeJoMTB]

I was married twice to English women both who pushed to marry me and i had a few enthusiastic gf's too so i would have expected that sex to be the best. Again this was not true the best sex i have had (by a margin) has been directly paid for. This initially seems strange but if you look at it logically (many women love money, many Oriental women in particular like to provide a good service for their earnings) it is not so surprising. A willing enthusiastic partner who is not looking for some significant financial provision may indeed be a rare breed so if you have it, great, keep it!

I am in agreement with you, paid for sex has always been best for me too.

But you have missed out the 'skill' factor, hookers have had a lot more practice with their skill set.

Even an enthusiastic amateur would be unlikely to provide any competition.

And I'm guessing here, but most of the guys seeking 'love' probably wouldn't be happy with a girl that had had much in the way of practice with hundreds of different partners.

[SoiBiker]

All I can conclude here is that for some of you, your pre-Thailand sex lives were rather lame.

[rogeroc]

So i obviously failed to stir your imagination and just possibly look at things from a different perspective. I tried to give some good examples as to why some may have a preference different from yours as indeed did MaeJoMTB, but you can only conclude with a negative uninformed comment.

[ClutchClark]

I can't imagine why anyone that has access to a willing enthusiastic partner would prefer someone who's only induced to take part by a financial imperative.

Try having sex with a 60 year old woman, then post again.

I may agree with almost nothing you post but you have just entered my Top-5 list of favorite TV posters with this one.

Cheers

[villagefarang]

I am 61 and have no tattoos, so I guess I am in a rather select group who don’t fall into the major group mentioned in this topic. As for 60 year old women, I’ll give that a go when I turn 80 as my wife will then be 60.

[YeahSiam]

I was married twice to English women both who pushed to marry me and i had a few enthusiastic gf's too so i would have expected that sex to be the best. Again this was not true the best sex i have had (by a margin) has been directly paid for. This initially seems strange but if you look at it logically (many women love money, many Oriental women in particular like to provide a good service for their earnings) it is not so surprising. A willing enthusiastic partner who is not looking for some significant financial provision may indeed be a rare breed so if you have it, great, keep it!

They're not a rare breed

at all. You seem to be

suggesting that most

women typically don't

enjoy sex unless they're

receivingsome sort of

inducement.

How ridiculous. I don't

think you guys really

know very much about

women.

[BaldPlumber]

So i obviously failed to stir your imagination and just possibly look at things from a different perspective. I tried to give some good examples as to why some may have a preference different from yours as indeed did MaeJoMTB, but you can only conclude with a negative uninformed comment.

I think you'll find that this is his preferred style. His already perfect world is greatly enhanced by dismissing the opinions of, as far as I can see, everyone else.

[ClutchClark]

So i obviously failed to stir your imagination and just possibly look at things from a different perspective. I tried to give some good examples as to why some may have a preference different from yours as indeed did MaeJoMTB, but you can only conclude with a negative uninformed comment.

I think you'll find that this is his preferred style. His already perfect world is greatly enhanced by dismissing the opinions of, as far as I can see, everyone else.

At this moment, everyone on TVF is going back up the thread to see who you are referring to because they think you are talking about them.

You have just described 99.9% of the members of this forum ;-)

[JoopJoop]

Military, maritime, or low self esteem/intellect.

That's my take on older guys having tats.

David Beckham..

Well, in some eyes he's an older guy now..

Your thoughts....?

He's just 40 mate, not old.

I'd say intellect is his limitation; the son of a hairdresser and kitchen fitter.

Certainly not the sharpest tool but he's done very well for himself.

Yet, the OP is referring to guys he's observed in BKK and I'd say he's likely referring to gents 50+.

[AlexRRR]

I am neither young or old. I am 42.

I have nothing against old people. I am just commenting on what I see every single day. I'd say more than 80% of older Farang in Bangkok are covered in them.

I will save commenting on young guys or people my age for another thread.

When I was in Canada I would think that a security guard or a cop would look stupid and untrustworthy having them.

It is my opinion, but then so what?

I think it's low class.

I find your honesty refreshing.

As for old guys and tattoos...somebody said body mutilation? Have you looked at our skin without ink? It ain't any prettier. Old wrinkled leather is old wrinkled leather.

Atleast old guys earned most of their tattoos back in one war or another. It used to represent some great nautical traditions like crossing the equator but Nowadays its mostly a fashion trend. But there is also a subculture here amongst ex-pats and a strong desire for comraderie. Tattoos is a male bonding thing and some tattoos are detsiled works of art.

I always feel bad for the young kids I see who have already covered up 80% of their available skin and they are not even 30-35. Priorities change, best to save some room for each decade of life still ahead of you.

You have a right to your opinion and it is shared by many employers.

I think Tattoos tend to make people look low class as well, more then worse especially on women, if discrete then its fine, might have something to do with the image in my mind blue collar bar hoopers and there babes.

[rogeroc]

They're not a rare breed

at all. You seem to be

suggesting that most

women typically don't

enjoy sex unless they're

receivingsome sort of

inducement.

How ridiculous. I don't

think you guys really

know very much about

women.

Not quite what i meant but i can see now.how it could read that way. What I am saying is that inducements may well lead to greater reward. I am a man so of course i do not know much about woman. I see from your profile that you are also male so i presume you do not either !

[theguyfromanotherforum]

SoiBiker, on 30 Oct 2015 - 23:27, said:

I can't imagine why anyone that has access to a willing enthusiastic partner would prefer someone who's only induced to take part by a financial imperative.

I believe that most of us have been indoctrinated from birth (by a combination of parents, church, education, government) that the correct and best way to lead our life is in monogamy and therefore that only the best sex can be had in a willing / loving? relationship. We are also indoctrinated to believe that girls are 'made of sugar and spice and all things nice' Many of us of course realise sometime in our lives that neither of these indoctrinated beliefs are necessarily true. Regrettably many women are very strongly motivated for financial reasons, not just here in Thailand but in the West. Look in the female profiles on UK online dating columns or the lonely hearts newspaper ads. and in addition to the compulsory GSOH requirement i am sure you will also see 'must have own house / own car'! They are of course only interested in a loving relationship ??

I was married twice to English women both who pushed to marry me and i had a few enthusiastic gf's too so i would have expected that sex to be the best. Again this was not true the best sex i have had (by a margin) has been directly paid for. This initially seems strange but if you look at it logically (many women love money, many Oriental women in particular like to provide a good service for their earnings) it is not so surprising. A willing enthusiastic partner who is not looking for some significant financial provision may indeed be a rare breed so if you have it, great, keep it! I suspect many would be envious. Another reason why i can imagine some men may prefer the direct payment option is that it allows them greater levels of freedom and control within a relationship /s

I hope that this Post has sparked your imagination and assisted with your understanding.

I have just realised that this Post was originally about tattoo's. I personally prefer not to see them on either men or women but again it is a personal choice / preference and it is disappointing to see such a lot of labelling of people's preferences in his thread.

Nice try.

I don't know how this thread turned into sex with prostitutes vs. "normal" girls, but since you brought this up I will put my 2 Serbian dinars.

I have mentioned many, many times that I have nothing against people who have sex with prostitutes. People experience different relationships in life. Some get ripped off, some get heartbroken..... the others just separate because they are afraid of commitment.

I do have a huge problem with people here who tell me the sex with prostitutes is the best sex they experienced and that I know nuttin about real sex because I don't chase hookers. I certainly don't put the same label on them, but these people seem to justify their life by telling me how I am missing out on something huge here in Thailand.

I call a huge BS on this. Sorry.

This is the same thing as if I would say the best sex I experienced is with my own hand while watching porn. After all, many posters have mentioned experienced prostitutes, so it is only normal for me to compare your sex workers with my own hand. Sorry guys, your prostitutes don't even come close. My hand knows me the best and I have been practicing since I was 12.... ok?

Now, for me.... I have to have a girl that is into me. Otherwise I don't get excited. I know it's lame, but this is how I operate. If my girlfriend has a "headache" or is not in the mood, neither am I. So, how on earth can I be in a mood with a girl who's only purpose in life is to extract sperm for a payment? Sorry, but no.

Again.... I am not saying it's wrong. I am not judging like you are. I am saying it's not the same for everyone.

[Fabricus]

I am in agreement with you, paid for sex has always been best for me too.

Best sex I ever had was with my Thai ex. She was an F&B manager at one of BKK's tourist hotels.

Most hookers I've had here in Thailand were fairly bland. Some were nice to chat to, though.

[JLCrab]

I am in agreement with you, paid for sex has always been best for me too.

Best sex I ever had was with my Thai ex. She was an F&B manager at one of BKK's tourist hotels.

Most hookers I've had here in Thailand were fairly bland. Some were nice to chat to, though.

From the above: Best sex I ever had was with my Thai ex. Before or after she was your ex?

[Fabricus]

I am in agreement with you, paid for sex has always been best for me too.

Best sex I ever had was with my Thai ex. She was an F&B manager at one of BKK's tourist hotels.

Most hookers I've had here in Thailand were fairly bland. Some were nice to chat to, though.

From the above: Best sex I ever had was with my Thai ex. Before or after she was your ex?

Yep, that's the key question.

She was mid thirties; we'd been together for almost exactly a decade.

Then she cheated and moved out.

Her beau was in his early sixties. Forum experts will tell you that life doesn't work like this, but it can and does.

After that it was kind of on-off between me and her for about a year. This was when sex went through the roof.

Just before we split up, I'd grown very bored of her.

Edited October 31, 2015 by Fabricus

[rogeroc]

IN RESPONSE TO 'THE GUY FROM'

I was only responding to the comment by Soi Biker as to why i and i think some others may have a different opinion to him. It was not me who brought up the subject of sex!. I try and take care not to be judgemental so I have read my Post again and i cannot see that i suggested either you or anyone else know nothing about real sex. If you look at my Post and yours again (and that I know nuttin about real sex because I don't chase hookers) you will see that you made that one up! I also commented positively re somebody lucky enough to have an enthusiastic partner not driven by financial motivation

Re being judgemental i quote your penultimate sentence 'So, how on earth can I be in a mood with a girl who's only purpose in life is to extract sperm for a payment?

Followed in your final sentence by. 'Again.... I am not saying it's wrong. I am not judging like you are'.

Hypocrisy is the best word i think