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Does a Non-immigrant B visa expired when work permit is cancelled?

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I entered Thailand on 21 October 2015 with a non-Immigrant B visa, single entry.

With the visa, I am allowed to stay for 90 days, until 18 Jan 2016. Subsequently, I have also obtained a work permit, arranged by a Work Permit & Visa agency arranged by my employer.

After one week of work, I found that the job scope does not match my skillsets, and have resigned from the company. Work permit has been returned to my employer on 3 Nov 2015, to be cancelled.

I do NOT have an 'extension of stay' still, since technically my B visa is still valid until 18 Jan 2016.

Whilst I understand that Ministry of Labour's system does not sync with Immigration, I would prefer not to break any law, in order not to jeopardize my future trips / work at Thailand.

My questions are:

1) Is it legal for me to stay in the country until 18 Jan 2016, with my B visa?

2) If not, when do I need to leave the country? And, do I need any additional paperwork to be done?

3) Assuming if I need to the country before 18 Jan 2016, I was told that the B visa will expire since it's on single entry. So, if I come in again later on 30 days tourist visa, I think there shouldn't be any issue, as I am holding a single entry B visa

Thanks

You do not have to leave until the permitted to stay until date of 18 January.

  1. Yes

n/a

You should have no problem entering again with a tourist visa (60 days) or visa exempt entry, if you're a nationality that qualifies (15 or 30 days).

Edited by elviajero

Have done exactly this before and didn't have a problem leaving the country close to the original expiry date, or coming back to Thailand on either a tourist visa or for another job later.

Edited by thinknirmal

your visa is linked to the work permit and employer.

so you cancel work, you also cancel your work permit too, you also cancel you non-o B visa too

visa and work permit are linked.

the day you cancel the work work, your b-visa is cancel too

you can apply for a 7 day extension on the day you cancel you work to arrange things and then have to leave the country.

your visa is linked to the work permit and employer.

so you cancel work, you also cancel your work permit too, you also cancel you non-o B visa too

visa and work permit are linked.

the day you cancel the work work, your b-visa is cancel too

you can apply for a 7 day extension on the day you cancel you work to arrange things and then have to leave the country.

I think you're confusing an Extension of Stay with a visa. He can stay until the stamp in his passport expires.

your visa is linked to the work permit and employer.

so you cancel work, you also cancel your work permit too, you also cancel you non-o B visa too

visa and work permit are linked.

the day you cancel the work work, your b-visa is cancel too

you can apply for a 7 day extension on the day you cancel you work to arrange things and then have to leave the country.

The WP is not linked to the non 'B' visa. If a WP is canceled the non 'B' is not cancelled and remains valid until it's expiry date.

An extension of stay based on working is linked to a WP and if the WP is cancelled you would have to leave the country.

OP I am not certain you are getting the correct advice here. Better to send a message to Ubonjoe, he is the expert and you will know for certain. According to my knowledge you have 7 days after your WP is canceled to leave the country or to convert to another visa (I went from Non B extension with a WP to retirement recently without leaving the country). When you apply for your Non B you present the company documentation and job offer and based on that you receive the Non B. Any extension are also granted based on your WP/employment. As I said contact Ubonjoe.

OP I am not certain you are getting the correct advice here. Better to send a message to Ubonjoe, he is the expert and you will know for certain. According to my knowledge you have 7 days after your WP is canceled to leave the country or to convert to another visa (I went from Non B extension with a WP to retirement recently without leaving the country). When you apply for your Non B you present the company documentation and job offer and based on that you receive the Non B. Any extension are also granted based on your WP/employment. As I said contact Ubonjoe.

As said before a visa entry remains valid. Only an extension of stay ends when the job ends.

OP I am not certain you are getting the correct advice here. Better to send a message to Ubonjoe, he is the expert and you will know for certain. According to my knowledge you have 7 days after your WP is canceled to leave the country or to convert to another visa (I went from Non B extension with a WP to retirement recently without leaving the country). When you apply for your Non B you present the company documentation and job offer and based on that you receive the Non B. Any extension are also granted based on your WP/employment. As I said contact Ubonjoe.

The OP has a non ' B' visa NOT an extension of stay based on working.

The WP being cancelled has absolutely no effect on his visa.

Your circumstances were different to the OP. You clearly had an extension of stay based on working (not a non 'B' visa) and when your WP was cancelled your extension of stay was no longer valid. You then changed the reason for your extension of stay from working to retirement, which enabled you to stay in the country.

p.s. There is no 7 day grace period. Someone could apply for an extension of stay, and be given 7 days to leave the country, for 1,900 baht.

Edited by elviajero

your visa is linked to the work permit and employer.

so you cancel work, you also cancel your work permit too, you also cancel you non-o B visa too

visa and work permit are linked.

the day you cancel the work work, your b-visa is cancel too

you can apply for a 7 day extension on the day you cancel you work to arrange things and then have to leave the country.

A Nonsense post

Valid Visas are never cancelled.

your visa is linked to the work permit and employer.

so you cancel work, you also cancel your work permit too, you also cancel you non-o B visa too

visa and work permit are linked.

the day you cancel the work work, your b-visa is cancel too

you can apply for a 7 day extension on the day you cancel you work to arrange things and then have to leave the country.

Wrong.

OP I am not certain you are getting the correct advice here. Better to send a message to Ubonjoe, he is the expert and you will know for certain. According to my knowledge you have 7 days after your WP is canceled to leave the country or to convert to another visa (I went from Non B extension with a WP to retirement recently without leaving the country). When you apply for your Non B you present the company documentation and job offer and based on that you receive the Non B. Any extension are also granted based on your WP/employment. As I said contact Ubonjoe.

Also, wrong.Why don't you guys do a little research, this has been discussed hundreds of times.

your visa is linked to the work permit and employer.

so you cancel work, you also cancel your work permit too, you also cancel you non-o B visa too

visa and work permit are linked.

the day you cancel the work work, your b-visa is cancel too

you can apply for a 7 day extension on the day you cancel you work to arrange things and then have to leave the country.

A Nonsense post

Valid Visas are never cancelled.

Oh yes they can be.

your visa is linked to the work permit and employer.

so you cancel work, you also cancel your work permit too, you also cancel you non-o B visa too

visa and work permit are linked.

the day you cancel the work work, your b-visa is cancel too

you can apply for a 7 day extension on the day you cancel you work to arrange things and then have to leave the country.

A Nonsense post

Valid Visas are never cancelled.

Oh yes they can be.

Please list all the circumstances which would lead to the Cancellation of a valid visa.

Then please tell us where visa cancellations take place and who authorises the visa cancellations

your visa is linked to the work permit and employer.

so you cancel work, you also cancel your work permit too, you also cancel you non-o B visa too

visa and work permit are linked.

the day you cancel the work work, your b-visa is cancel too

you can apply for a 7 day extension on the day you cancel you work to arrange things and then have to leave the country.

A Nonsense post

Valid Visas are never cancelled.

Oh yes they can be.

Please list all the circumstances which would lead to the Cancellation of a valid visa.

Then please tell us where visa cancellations take place and who authorises the visa cancellations

If a person acquires a second Thai visa in a passport that already has a valid Thai visa and submits that passport on arrival at Thai Immigration, if the Immigration officer sees both visas, he will cancel one of them. This has been a frequent issue and was debated after actually happening in a very recent thread.

NanLaew


How frequent is "frequent"?


That, I would submit, is a rare and unusual circumstance which I agree could lead to ONE of the visas being cancelled.

NanLaew
How frequent is "frequent"?
That, I would submit, is a rare and unusual circumstance which I agree could lead to ONE of the visas being cancelled.

It does not need to be frequent to counter your rather bold assertion that "Valid Visas are never cancelled".

Carry on if you want to search for all the instances of this as reported on TV though. My work is done.

NanLaew
How frequent is "frequent"?
That, I would submit, is a rare and unusual circumstance which I agree could lead to ONE of the visas being cancelled.

It does not need to be frequent to counter your rather bold assertion that "Valid Visas are never cancelled".

Carry on if you want to search for all the instances of this as reported on TV though. My work is done.

I will repeat my assertion and further claim that in your "example" one of the visas was not Valid.

NanLaew
How frequent is "frequent"?
That, I would submit, is a rare and unusual circumstance which I agree could lead to ONE of the visas being cancelled.

It does not need to be frequent to counter your rather bold assertion that "Valid Visas are never cancelled".

Carry on if you want to search for all the instances of this as reported on TV though. My work is done.

I will repeat my assertion and further claim that in your "example" one of the visas was not Valid.

...and I'll raise you two hand shandys.

In the most recent thread on this matter to which you contributed correct advice, some members report being able to 'save' an unused entry on a multi-entry visa by asking the Immigration officer to give them a exempt entry instead of using the visa. Of course a visa-exempt entry isn't a visa per se but does illuminate that Thai IO's do have total discretionary powers regardless of what they are presented with in a visitors passport.

Back to the main topic here, the same thread has two members being asked by the IO which one of the two current and valid visas in their passport they wish to use to enter the country, whereupon the other current and valid visa is canceled.

Edited by NanLaew

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Thanks for all replies, some more helpful than others ..

An update, which might be helpful to those in the same situation as me, and genuinely need to know.

1) I left Bangkok (to Hong Kong for holiday) via Suvarnabhumi airport on 31 Dec 2015, and subsequently re-entered via the same airport on 3 Jan 2016, without problems. I am a Malaysian, under the Visa Exemption Rule, I am permitted to stay in Thailand up to 30 days if entering via international airport.

2) I was pre-empted by Cathay Pacific (the airline I was flying with) when I checked in at Hong Kong Int'l Airport, that Thai regulation states that I need a return ticket. But, it'll be on random check, so counter staff advised me to prepare to get an outbound ticket if immigration checks at BKK.

3) At Suvarnabhumi airport, Thai immigration officer asked whether I have any visa, which I replied no. He then asked how long will I be staying in Thailand, which I replied 1-2 weeks. Last question, the purpose of my travel, which I replied "Fan pen kone Thai" (my bf is Thai). He smiled, and stamped me in without further questions.

I'll probably start a new job in Q1/2016, will report again if all goes well / any issues.

Edited by kohyeeling

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