ktm jeff Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Happy Grumpy , i very nearly posted something similar yesterday. Same tenacity. LL2 posted some informative posts. RE , Duke overheating. It was caused by both a poor quality , under- powered electric fan , whose fan blades could detatch from the motor , and a very reistrictive shroud / deflector that encased the rear of the fan. This was an attempt to re-direct the hot , expeled radiator air , away from the rider , due to some riders complaining about hot legs , when in both trousers and shorts.The shroud design / outlet hole was too reistrictive , not allowing enough hot air out. So it ran hot. The cure is too ditch the shroud , and fit a better quality , higher powered electric fan. The process , and the fan details are on various KTM forums. In Thailand , if these mods are done , there wont be any problems. Some have gone the extra mile / kilometer , and added "Engine Ice" coolent , or similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
properperson Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Well mine got delivered yesterday: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Grumpy Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Very nice, congrats. Do you plan to do anything to it, after-market exhaust etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
properperson Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 (edited) Very nice, congrats. Do you plan to do anything to it, after-market exhaust etc? Local Thai engineer modifies original pipe to make it a tad louder with a throaty sound - without attracting the Police's attention and looks like it hasn't been faffed with...many of my pals going down this route - and a snip at 1,500 B Got Rad guard, hand guards and larger screen... on the list are the orange crash bars that go nicely with the orange trellacing... Off to K Speed in a couple of days - a fair bit of stuff there to tempt you.... http://www.k-speed.net/index.php?p=1&mo=30&cid=384674 Edited July 24, 2016 by properperson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullcave Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Very nice, congrats. Do you plan to do anything to it, after-market exhaust etc? Local Thai engineer modifies original pipe to make it a tad louder with a throaty sound - without attracting the Police's attention and looks like it hasn't been faffed with...many of my pals going down this route - and a snip at 1,500 B Got Rad guard, hand guards and larger screen... on the list are the orange crash bars that go nicely with the orange trellacing... Off to K Speed in a couple of days - a fair bit of stuff there to tempt you.... Hand guards seem like something more for MX. Will you be using it off road? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
properperson Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Very nice, congrats. Do you plan to do anything to it, after-market exhaust etc? Local Thai engineer modifies original pipe to make it a tad louder with a throaty sound - without attracting the Police's attention and looks like it hasn't been faffed with...many of my pals going down this route - and a snip at 1,500 B Got Rad guard, hand guards and larger screen... on the list are the orange crash bars that go nicely with the orange trellacing... Off to K Speed in a couple of days - a fair bit of stuff there to tempt you.... Hand guards seem like something more for MX. Will you be using it off road? KTM OEM for the Duke range, supplied / fitted by the KTM dealer.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzz Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Very nice, congrats. Do you plan to do anything to it, after-market exhaust etc? Local Thai engineer modifies original pipe to make it a tad louder with a throaty sound - without attracting the Police's attention and looks like it hasn't been faffed with...many of my pals going down this route - and a snip at 1,500 B Got Rad guard, hand guards and larger screen... on the list are the orange crash bars that go nicely with the orange trellacing... Off to K Speed in a couple of days - a fair bit of stuff there to tempt you.... Hand guards seem like something more for MX. Will you be using it off road? KTM OEM for the Duke range, supplied / fitted by the KTM dealer.... Bling. Sorta like putting a wing on a Volvo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaorop Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Very nice, congrats. Do you plan to do anything to it, after-market exhaust etc? Local Thai engineer modifies original pipe to make it a tad louder with a throaty sound - without attracting the Police's attention and looks like it hasn't been faffed with...many of my pals going down this route - and a snip at 1,500 B Got Rad guard, hand guards and larger screen... on the list are the orange crash bars that go nicely with the orange trellacing... Off to K Speed in a couple of days - a fair bit of stuff there to tempt you.... Hand guards seem like something more for MX. Will you be using it off road? I'm beginning to wonder if you ride at all in thailand, what with the "to hot" and this, and sorry no, using a scooter to go to the sev is not "riding in thailand" imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
properperson Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Very nice, congrats. Do you plan to do anything to it, after-market exhaust etc? Local Thai engineer modifies original pipe to make it a tad louder with a throaty sound - without attracting the Police's attention and looks like it hasn't been faffed with...many of my pals going down this route - and a snip at 1,500 B Got Rad guard, hand guards and larger screen... on the list are the orange crash bars that go nicely with the orange trellacing... Off to K Speed in a couple of days - a fair bit of stuff there to tempt you.... Hand guards seem like something more for MX. Will you be using it off road? I'm beginning to wonder if you ride at all in thailand, what with the "to hot" and this, and sorry no, using a scooter to go to the sev is not "riding in thailand" imo yeh - some people could cause an arguement in an empty room..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullcave Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Very nice, congrats. Do you plan to do anything to it, after-market exhaust etc? Local Thai engineer modifies original pipe to make it a tad louder with a throaty sound - without attracting the Police's attention and looks like it hasn't been faffed with...many of my pals going down this route - and a snip at 1,500 B Got Rad guard, hand guards and larger screen... on the list are the orange crash bars that go nicely with the orange trellacing... Off to K Speed in a couple of days - a fair bit of stuff there to tempt you.... Hand guards seem like something more for MX. Will you be using it off road? I'm beginning to wonder if you ride at all in thailand, what with the "to hot" and this, and sorry no, using a scooter to go to the sev is not "riding in thailand" imo Nope, never had any need for hand guards on the street. Yep, it's too damn hot for wearing proper protection and over the long haul for touring (speaking from experience) but locally running back and forth into town there are some major advantages over using a car. Finding a parking spot for one! Had mine for about 2 years and have about 16km on the clock in comparison I've put nearly ten times that on my bike in Europe during the same period of time. And that was without the fancy hand guards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
properperson Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Nope, never had any need for hand guards on the street. Yep, it's too damn hot for wearing proper protection and over the long haul for touring (speaking from experience) but locally running back and forth into town there are some major advantages over using a car. Finding a parking spot for one! Had mine for about 2 years and have about 16km on the clock in comparison I've put nearly ten times that on my bike in Europe during the same period of time. And that was without the fancy hand guards! everyones different.....take this guy....stripped his 390 down considerably and painted the wheels black: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
properperson Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Duke 390 certainly gives the Honda 500F something to think about: http://www.motorcycle.com/shoot-outs/shoot-outslittle-tearers-comparison-honda-cb500f-vs-ktm-390-duke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullcave Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 1 hour ago, properperson said: Duke 390 certainly gives the Honda 500F something to think about: http://www.motorcycle.com/shoot-outs/shoot-outslittle-tearers-comparison-honda-cb500f-vs-ktm-390-duke Sure does, especially for the riders under 5'10" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denkiblue555 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 On 30 July 2016 at 5:02 PM, fullcave said: And that was without the fancy hand guards! I had some basic Acerbis hand guards on a CRF450 I used to ride in BKK traffic - saved me from a few dramas more than once. Its very nice not to have your handlebars exposed on bikes not using 'clip ons'. I guess it might not be as cool as bent levers though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi850m2 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Interesting comparison with the CB500 here, how much is the 390 Duke in Thailand? seems like a real blast to ride. http://www.motorcycle.com/shoot-outs/shoot-outslittle-tearers-comparison-honda-cb500f-vs-ktm-390-duke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
properperson Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 2 hours ago, guzzi850m2 said: Interesting comparison with the CB500 here, how much is the 390 Duke in Thailand? seems like a real blast to ride. http://www.motorcycle.com/shoot-outs/shoot-outslittle-tearers-comparison-honda-cb500f-vs-ktm-390-duke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzz Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 If you are over 6' tall, there is no comparison. You won't fit on the Duke 390. The Duke 690 is a good fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
properperson Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 (edited) 19 hours ago, fullcave said: Sure does, especially for the riders under 5'10" And for experienced 5' 10" riders: "On smooth pavement, there’s little that could keep up with it under a brave expert rider" Below a BMW S1000RR crashes trying to get past a Duke 390 round the twisties: Edited August 7, 2016 by properperson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullcave Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 That's crazy man... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
properperson Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Best lightweight bike 2 years in a row (2015 AND 2016) KTM Duke 390 - http://www.motorcycle.com/.../best-lightweight-entry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi850m2 Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Sadly I am too tall for this bike, I stick to my V for now but the Duke looks like great fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Grumpy Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Must be quite vibey as a 373cc single. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLang Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Why do they call it the Duke 390 when it is only 373 cc? Also, a previous version needed a recall over a serious front sprocket issue. Instead of ordering a recall they sneakily told the dealers to change the front sprockets when the owners came in for a service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi850m2 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 34 minutes ago, DLang said: Why do they call it the Duke 390 when it is only 373 cc? Also, a previous version needed a recall over a serious front sprocket issue. Instead of ordering a recall they sneakily told the dealers to change the front sprockets when the owners came in for a service. Well at least they call it that, the CB300 is only 27x something, so they are "cheating" even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Grumpy Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 6 hours ago, guzzi850m2 said: Well at least they call it that, the CB300 is only 27x something, so they are "cheating" even more. absolutely. thai Honda even advertized it as 300cc (written in Thai.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktm jeff Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 The little Honda "300" might be closer to a 275 , but the Honda CB "500" is even worse , as it is closer to a 450. The KTM "390" ( 373 ) has similar power than the CB "500 / 450 but weighs about 110 LBS less. That old Honda must be the weight of an old barge . Its said to handle like one too. Point of intrest , the KTM EXC range of 500,s isnt 500cc either , they are over 510cc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bramds Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 10 hours ago, ktm jeff said: The little Honda "300" might be closer to a 275 , but the Honda CB "500" is even worse , as it is closer to a 450. The KTM "390" ( 373 ) has similar power than the CB "500 / 450 but weighs about 110 LBS less. That old Honda must be the weight of an old barge . Its said to handle like one too. Point of intrest , the KTM EXC range of 500,s isnt 500cc either , they are over 510cc. Did you ride one? I did, for 3 years, and it is super flexible and not too heavy at all. Perfect for city riding and long trips. But you probably only have experience with real motoGP bikes and the rest is not good enough for you. Must be fun riding those tracks all day every day, living the life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Grumpy Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 10 hours ago, ktm jeff said: The KTM "390" ( 373 ) has similar power than the CB "500 / 450 but weighs about 110 LBS less. Not quite true, it has nearly 10% less HP. 47hp to 43hp if I'm not mistaken. Which sounds the same as the R3 which is only 321cc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Does anyone know when these are available and price ? http://www.bmw-motorrad.co.th/th/en/bike/urban/2015/g310r/g310r_overview.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi850m2 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 32 minutes ago, Peterw42 said: Does anyone know when these are available and price ? http://www.bmw-motorrad.co.th/th/en/bike/urban/2015/g310r/g310r_overview.html Looks like not available yet, on same site you linked to I found the price list and the 310 is not there yet; http://www.bmw-motorrad.co.th/th/en/price_and_finance/price_and_finance_list.html Nice little bike, you will have to contact a BMW dealer to see if it comes but it's on the link you supplied so sure looks like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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