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Your quoting it yourself.. dont use the drug if you have coronary artery disease, congestive heart failure, tachycardia, peripheral arterial occlusive disease, arrhythmia, or stroke.

So what about healthy people who use it ? As I said certain risk groups should not take it at all its not unsafe for everyone.

Rob: you oversee one point: The usual user of a pill to reduce fat isn't a young strong healthy guy who has 5 kg too much.

It is usually someone who has at least 50 kg too much and never did any sport and has a terrible diet, so the chances that he has several health, mostly heart issues already is very high. At the same time these are the people who are desperate and my eat the double, triple dose to get more effect.

And in a nanny state we aren't allowed to decide that ourself and protect the weak.

Actually that is part of my point if you take a group who is already at risk then its "normal" for some to have problems. So its unsafe for them to use. However it does not count for everyone. But I know its a flaw in my reasoning because the group at risk is the group that needs it the most.

Anyway I tried it.. worked for me but i stopped because of the sleep problems (for me my nights rest is the most important of all)

your flaw is bigger than you think. The group at risk is the only one who needs it. The slight overweight has no health risks so he/she don't need it at all.

Still I don't like the nanny state which decides what we are allowed to do...

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