snoop1130 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Words of wisdom: Teacher trash talks Thais who fake farang accentBy Coconuts BangkokBANGKOK -- Minor local celebrity Adam Bradshaw, an English language teacher and blogger in Bangkok, has spoken out against Thais who annoyingly speak their mother tongue with a Western accent in an attempt to sound "hi-so."In a widely shared Facebook post, Adam, an American expat known for writing and speaking Thai at native-speaker level, snapped at Thai people who have lived abroad for a few years and then suddenly forget how to speak Thai clearly - a trend that has been around in Thai culture for decades as an attempt to flaunt financial status."You've lived abroad for 2-3 years and forgot your mother tongue? I don't believe it! I know many Thais who have lived abroad for decades and they can still speak Thai clearly. Their English is fluent as well. They may have forgotten something but their accent doesn't change," Adam wrote in Thai.Full Story: http://bangkok.coconuts.co/2015/12/11/words-wisdom-teacher-trash-talks-thais-who-fake-farang-accent-- Coconuts Bangkok 2015-12-11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 (edited) So what about westerners residing here whose English turns to rat sh!t after a while? What's the ruddy big deal? I have met people in the UK and after about a minute have said to them, "I see you have spent a while in Thailand..." Big fuss over nothing. Edited December 11, 2015 by baboon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lannig Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 How does a Thai speaking with farang accent sound like? never heard anything like this. Link to an audio or video anyone? I guess that I'm not much with the "hi-so". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro01 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 (edited) Interesting. I have never heard a "farang" accent. Nor have I ever heard of a Thai faking a English or American accent, or not able to speak Thai any more. I know a few kiddies (my own including) that sound a little more American 'cause of the influence of cartoon network. And of course, I can pin point the area on the map that any Thai that studied in the UK based on the accent they came back with - but only when they speak English. But fake accents? I think Adam is a bit of a f*ckwit. Fact is - if you send a Thai to London for 2-3 years, they will pick up the accent when they speak English. Edited December 11, 2015 by pedro01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCFC Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 If they have been living in the West sure their accent changes. I lived in Thailand for 12 years and it changed the way I spoke english. I drew out my vowels and inflected words at the end of the sentence. Back in the UK everybody remarked on it. Twelve months later the Thai accent is fading, so I am told, but living in a foreign country and speaking the native language does affect one's mother tongue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fang37 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Many English speaking Thais speak with an American accent (for obvious reasons). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taony Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 It takes me a while to start speaking English correctly again when i go back home too 555. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 We know if we have met a rolling stone or a well anchored tree with deep roots when their mouths open... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clokwise Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 What really annoys me is when I observe other foreigners here who, for lack of a better term, speak "bar girl English", which is usually also accompanied by a lot of hand gestures and comical miming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wow64 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 So what about westerners residing here whose English turns to rat sh!t after a while? What's the ruddy big deal? I have met people in the UK and after about a minute have said to them, "I see you have spent a while in Thailand..." Big fuss over nothing. What gives them away? The ladyboy girlfriend? Has nothing to do with their accent. Sent from my c64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I've heard of this phenomenon before... A Thai Girl (Generals Daughter nonetheless) was dating a friend of mine... After studying abroad she deliberately 'farangaised' (yes I know thats not a word) her Thai... Those Thai's listening to her thought she was just a spoilt dumb bimbo - they weren't far off the mark. I have also heard 'accents' in the Thai language spoke by foreigners to Thailand... Its pretty easy to spot unless the standard of Thai spoken by the foreigner is excellent. So... IMO - this guy is pretty much on the money and more in touch with reality than those who are calling him a douche... In fact, I suspect some may simply be jealous that on the 'native'o'meter' he's more in touch with Thailand than them..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeya Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 would bet most on here have never heard of Adam Bradshaw. His presenting on the travel chanels "Farang Pok Pok" travel show is very entertaining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 So what about westerners residing here whose English turns to rat sh!t after a while? What's the ruddy big deal? I have met people in the UK and after about a minute have said to them, "I see you have spent a while in Thailand..." Big fuss over nothing. What gives them away? The ladyboy girlfriend? Has nothing to do with their accent.Sent from my c64 Coming out with things like "..and after, I go eating. Super delicious.." Stuff like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonw8uk Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Wow this guy sounds like a total Douchebag...... Watch his show on Voice TV... He really doesn't come across as a douchebag, and his Thai is superb. He's passionate about teaching english, and has the charisma to merit his 'minor celebrity' status. Good luck to him I say, and what he says about the 'hi-so' set is probably true too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Fixit Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I think this guy is talking a load of old b0ll0x. However, in my experience, there ARE quite a few Thais who have spent 6 or 12 months abroad and think they're the bee's knees and start to act all superior to other Thais, as well as to foreigners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenBravo Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Seems quite a few posters on this thread need lessons in English comprehension. The article refers to Thais speaking Thai in a farang accent. NOT Thais speaking English with a farang accent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobobirdiebuddy Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 If they have been living in the West sure their accent changes. I lived in Thailand for 12 years and it changed the way I spoke english. I drew out my vowels and inflected words at the end of the sentence. Back in the UK everybody remarked on it. Twelve months later the Thai accent is fading, so I am told, but living in a foreign country and speaking the native language does affect one's mother tongue Yeah, I know what you mean. I went back to the States after living here for 16 years, I had the urge to go to shopping. People would visit me (after I back home) and would seem perplexed when I would politely ask "You want some drink?". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickylies Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I lived in Thailand for 12 years and it changed the way I spoke english. "He's quite big a man isn't he?" became "him big na"... "I don't think I understand" became "no understand" ... "How are you today?" became "Eaten rice yet?" ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thian Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I speak Thai with a low-so accent like every Thai here does. Tao lai klab? Ha loi baht klab, kob kun klab, sawasdee klab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konying Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Anyone know how or where Adam learned Thai, because he really is fluent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I think many people haven't read the article and have misunderstood what this man is saying. Anywho, I've met quite a few Thais who've been abroad and have been 'enlightened'. Many I've met have started to look down on their fellow Thais and acted more foreign and cultured. But these are the same people who wouldn't give an inch to a foreigner in Thailand but expect the mile when travelling abroad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemonjelly Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Adam, just concentrate on teaching English to the Thai people and stop stressing out about their "farang" accent, you're not a Thai teacher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuanku Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 When anyone travels, lives and works outside their native country, it changes them in lots of ways, most of them good. The same applies when Thais live in Europe or America. They become more world-wise. If they also put on a funny accent to show off, that is probably a small worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLing Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 So what about westerners residing here whose English turns to rat sh!t after a while? What's the ruddy big deal? I have met people in the UK and after about a minute have said to them, "I see you have spent a while in Thailand..." Big fuss over nothing. Exactly what my son complains about me. He bought me a whole bunch of Mr. Men books and said: "Dad, I think it's time you read some English books again" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dru2 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 What the hell is a "Farang" accent anyway? Cockney? Glaswegian? Bronx? Ocker? RP? What a lot of nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveat Emptor Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 What the hell is a "Farang" accent anyway? Cockney? Glaswegian? Bronx? Ocker? RP? What a lot of nonsense. He'd be better served venting about Thais masquerading as " English ' teachers who can't put a sentence together and pass on the crap they were taught. Same same, I ever know and so much more . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 What the hell is a "Farang" accent anyway? Cockney? Glaswegian? Bronx? Ocker? RP? What a lot of nonsense. He'd be better served venting about Thais masquerading as " English ' teachers who can't put a sentence together and pass on the crap they were taught. Same same, I ever know and so much more . Nice one, affected accents can be so false and annoying but if speakers get the vocabulary, structure etc correct it's better than those who claim to speak a language and most definitely can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 My wife came back here after 5-6 years overseas. All her friends said she no longer spoke Thai properly. A few times, they said they didn't understand her and asked if she was born here or not! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickylies Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I've met quite a few Thais who've been abroad and have been 'enlightened'. Many I've met have started to look down on their fellow Thais and acted more foreign and cultured. But these are the same people who wouldn't give an inch to a foreigner in Thailand but expect the mile when travelling abroad. The best thing is that the ones who went abroad rarely get our subtle "Westerness" just like we (aliens) rarely get their supreme "Thainess"... I love it when they tell blatant lies and bs about the West simply to impress the untermensch known as the Common Thai who has never been abroad (except for the obligatory temple or market visit in Lao, Khmèn [sic] or Bpama) ... Oh well, people, hiso, loso or soso... useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 So what about westerners residing here whose English turns to rat sh!t after a while? What's the ruddy big deal? I have met people in the UK and after about a minute have said to them, "I see you have spent a while in Thailand..." Big fuss over nothing. You mean my Thaiglish with heavy German accent doesn't sound hi-so You no friend me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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