Seen a Champ brand commercial mixer (using for kneading / making bread in small commercial quantities) for about 10k thb. Have them in the commercial shops and in the concessions outside Makro. They ok quality?

Edited December 25, 201510 yr by Kenny202

I've had experiences with Champ brand. Find another brand. I know they're cheap but not real well made. If you want a good domestic brand try Kittiwattana

Kenny,

For a real professional one I would go for Somerville-Siam

http://www.somerville-siam.com/productimport/kneader-spiral-kneader.htm

Their distribution network is great.

I had a better look at a Champ today. OMG! Hard to imagine anything could be made that badly. Casting was all rusty underneath. Looked like had one coat of paint and over spray on switches, cables

Kenny,

For a real professional one I would go for Somerville-Siam

http://www.somerville-siam.com/productimport/kneader-spiral-kneader.htm

Their distribution network is great.

I don't know what "a real professional one" means. For something simple like a mixer for making bread what you want is durability Our Kittiwattana lasted 8 years before something in it cracked. We got it repaired and it's running fine. The stuff from Somerville is beautiful but for bread making not necessary. And Somerville charges a premium. I shopped around for a Varimixer and Somerville's prices were a lot more than I ended up paying elsewhere.

Kenny,

For a real professional one I would go for Somerville-Siam

http://www.somerville-siam.com/productimport/kneader-spiral-kneader.htm

Their distribution network is great.

I don't know what "a real professional one" means. For something simple like a mixer for making bread what you want is durability Our Kittiwattana lasted 8 years before something in it cracked. We got it repaired and it's running fine. The stuff from Somerville is beautiful but for bread making not necessary. And Somerville charges a premium. I shopped around for a Varimixer and Somerville's prices were a lot more than I ended up paying elsewhere.

Professional line means higher power in engine (+600W) and larger bowl(+6liters).

Average household mixer is about 5 to 6 liters and below 600W.

Even the top version of KitchenAid can't do your required 10 liters job.

Normally : the more powerful your engine, the longer it will last...

Edited December 26, 201510 yr by Thorgal

Kenny,

For a real professional one I would go for Somerville-Siam

http://www.somerville-siam.com/productimport/kneader-spiral-kneader.htm

Their distribution network is great.

I don't know what "a real professional one" means. For something simple like a mixer for making bread what you want is durability Our Kittiwattana lasted 8 years before something in it cracked. We got it repaired and it's running fine. The stuff from Somerville is beautiful but for bread making not necessary. And Somerville charges a premium. I shopped around for a Varimixer and Somerville's prices were a lot more than I ended up paying elsewhere.

Professional line means higher power in engine (+600W) and larger bowl(+6liters).

Average household mixer is about 5 to 6 liters and below 600W.

Even the top version of KitchenAid can't do your required 10 liters job.

Normally : the more powerful your engine, the longer it will last...

Siam-Somerville sells expensive imports. You can also get domestically made professional machines. If you want to splash a lot of money out, go for a varimix. But just to make bread it would not be necessary.

Edited December 26, 201510 yr by ilostmypassword

You can also get domestically made professional machines. If you want to splash a lot of money out, go for a varimix. But just to make bread it would not be necessary.

I am in the market for a (semi-professional) mixer too.

I need it for bread and sausage making.

It seems, that the Chinese ones have a (more or less) sufficient build quality.

But the "domestically made professional machines" look like if they were handmade in some "backyard mom+pop shop".

I checked one of them, and the motor vents looked like, if someone cut them with an Angle grinder.

Gosh...

You can also get domestically made professional machines. If you want to splash a lot of money out, go for a varimix. But just to make bread it would not be necessary.

I am in the market for a (semi-professional) mixer too.

I need it for bread and sausage making.

It seems, that the Chinese ones have a (more or less) sufficient build quality.

But the "domestically made professional machines" look like if they were handmade in some "backyard mom+pop shop".

I checked one of them, and the motor vents looked like, if someone cut them with an Angle grinder.

Gosh...

Oh I agree. I thought champ brand was ok but yeah, I laughed when I saw the construction and materials. Underneath the cast iron was rusted...badly! The action of raising and lowering the bowl was horrible too. The guy told me it was 300 watts too even though it seemed to have a big motor. Most domestic / semi pro machines are at least 600w. Dunno, maybe it would last for years.

You can also get domestically made professional machines. If you want to splash a lot of money out, go for a varimix. But just to make bread it would not be necessary.

I am in the market for a (semi-professional) mixer too.

I need it for bread and sausage making.

It seems, that the Chinese ones have a (more or less) sufficient build quality.

But the "domestically made professional machines" look like if they were handmade in some "backyard mom+pop shop".

I checked one of them, and the motor vents looked like, if someone cut them with an Angle grinder.

Gosh...

Oh I agree. I thought champ brand was ok but yeah, I laughed when I saw the construction and materials. Underneath the cast iron was rusted...badly! The action of raising and lowering the bowl was horrible too. The guy told me it was 300 watts too even though it seemed to have a big motor. Most domestic / semi pro machines are at least 600w. Dunno, maybe it would last for years.

From what I read here, I'm guessing you think Champ is locally made. It's not. It's Chinese.

From what I read here, I'm guessing you think Champ is locally made. It's not. It's Chinese.

Champ sells different brands and types.

Some are Chinese, some domestic made.

It's relatively easy, to find out what is what...

Have a Sakura 10L mixer, think its Chinese, just a 500w motor, only mix about 2.5kg of dough at a time on slow speed. Had it 5 years now, reliable and cost 15000 Baht.
Its in use most days, I still make some doughs by hand. You can pay a fortune for the big spiral type mixers, unless your thinking of making lots of bread I suggest one of the smaller mixers such as from Houseworth. I have one for cakes etc.

Mixed this at 0300 today.