No review of Koh Tao case, says Prawit

[smacko]

I was planning on investing a small sum of Thb 50.000.000- into Thailand just to make my wife happy. Guess what .................

Thailand give a toss, this you know

[saakura]

Oh, so this is all the work of Thaksin and the red shirts. Great.

[saakura]

I was planning on investing a small sum of Thb 50.000.000- into Thailand just to make my wife happy. Guess what .................

Wow, 50 million is a small amount for you? And you are investing that not for profits but just to make your wife happy? What a lucky man.

[slipperylobster]

I once saw a proficiency report on one of my workers which told me everything I wanted to know.

"John Smith" consistently fails to achieve the low standards that he sets for himself.

Just saying.....evaluating political systems, one could come to similar conclusions.

Edited December 28, 2015 by slipperylobster

[cockatoowho]

As much as I believe the trial court was in error, the junta is correct that the only proper recourse is an appeal or Royal pardon. Perhaps Art. 42 might provide authority to overturn the verdict, but this would be an extraordinary use of that power, and not warranted . . . yet.

Do you honestly believe your comments to be constructive, or do you just like being noticed. For Pete's sake the whole thing is a sham and you are giving the Junta credibility.

[bangrak]

Wait, wait,wait....

He's no insinuating that these protests in BURMA are the work of the devil in Dubai when he says they have a 'hidden agenda' is he?

Unless he means it is the Burmese government doing it. I really hope he means the latter for my sanity's sake.

Though one can not doubt the Generals still(!) holding Burma in their grip are greater friends of the-man-in-the-desert, as there are financial interests they share, ...and money rules the world, than of any of the thousands of Generals Thailand is rich of (or rather more poor because of...?), IMO, with the simple reasons of common sense, NOBODY, except the PTP/UDD/red fanatics, for their (here reversed) propaganda, would think a second of blaming 'dark vador' Thaksin for it!

It's just your basic Thai authorities' reaction for ages(!): when you don't know (or too well...) what's behind something you can't (or don't want to...) put the finger on, just blame some 'third hand', 'dark forces' or any other mumbo-jumbo stuff!

It always works, locally(!), in a country still kept(!) with one(?) foot in the middle-ages, where magic and superstition are, up to the highest levels, a more important motive of decision, white or black, North or South, than reason and common sense should be...

Isn't it an important part of that 'Thainess' so highly praised again recently, in commandments, and even in songs, after all...?

Edited December 28, 2015 by bangrak

[cockatoowho]

From the Junta's reaction, it is plainly obvious that panic buttons are being hit. The beginning of the end for this mob, won't be long before they start turning on one another in an attempt to save their own miserable asses. Bring it on!

[sjaak327]

I believe there is every reason to review this case, as it was an absolute mess. Even IN the court Police officers gave conflicting witness reports. How the judges managed to sentence both accused to two death sentences is beyond me, as murder has not been proved. The murder weapon didn't even contain DNA of the accussed.

This is the hallmark of a messed up case and trial.

[bangrak]

I believe there is every reason to review this case, as it was an absolute mess. Even IN the court Police officers gave conflicting witness reports. How the judges managed to sentence both accused to two death sentences is beyond me, as murder has not been proved. The murder weapon didn't even contain DNA of the accussed.

This is the hallmark of a messed up case and trial.

There was only 1 (one) single judge!

...Holding the power and authority to, not only in theory (when not appealed), on his own, send human beings to their death!

[sjaak327]

I believe there is every reason to review this case, as it was an absolute mess. Even IN the court Police officers gave conflicting witness reports. How the judges managed to sentence both accused to two death sentences is beyond me, as murder has not been proved. The murder weapon didn't even contain DNA of the accussed.

This is the hallmark of a messed up case and trial.

There was only 1 (one) single judge!

...Holding the power and authority to, not only in theory (when not appealed), on his own, send human beings to their death!

Oh ? I thought it was a panel of three judges. Sure I read that somewhere.

I still want to know how they figured murder has been proved beyond a reasonable doubt.

[bangrak]

I hope nobody here thinks the (one and single...) judge who pronounced these two death sentences did commit ANY 'error' or 'mistake'!

What MADE him able and willing to come out with such a ruling is the problem!

Mind you, it's not a Thai problem, it could have gone exactly the same way in, say, Uganda, or Costa Rica, ...or China to get closer...

Why would, how could, judges be any better than 'the system' making them, installing them, keeping them in place (with their own head on top of their shoulders...)?

Edited December 28, 2015 by bangrak

[bangrak]

I believe there is every reason to review this case, as it was an absolute mess. Even IN the court Police officers gave conflicting witness reports. How the judges managed to sentence both accused to two death sentences is beyond me, as murder has not been proved. The murder weapon didn't even contain DNA of the accussed.

This is the hallmark of a messed up case and trial.

There was only 1 (one) single judge!

...Holding the power and authority to, not only in theory (when not appealed), on his own, send human beings to their death!

Oh ? I thought it was a panel of three judges. Sure I read that somewhere.

I still want to know how they figured murder has been proved beyond a reasonable doubt.

I'm really afraid that was never the point, but rather how the text of the laws could be made to fit with carefully selected parts of 'the evidence' to justify a ruling in accordance with what was 'expected'... A quite simple 'intellectual game' in fact (though just writing this makes my stomach turn)!

[starky]

Not going to go away so easily.

https://www.change.org/p/david-cameron-independently-investigate-the-horrific-murders-of-hannah-witheridge-and-david-miller/u/14756758?tk=07HlyXwPnLVjEjV3g7A23zEXD-AagDD5bpE8eXFIlWM&utm_source=petition_update&utm_medium=email

You don't know the Thais very well if you think that petition is going to make one iota of difference to anyone in authority in Thailand.

[MaxLee]

To show some compassion and acknowledgement to people's anger at the very dubious verdict, allowing the B2 to get release on bail (under house arrest) awaiting the appeal I feel would be better than having them shackled and manacled on death row for the likely multiple year appeal phase.

Just being stubborn and digging heels in will only make protests even more widespread and prolonged I suspect. This is not going to go away easily. I hope these guys get handsomely compensated when they're finally acquitted. Their treatment to this point has been hellish to put it mildly. I hope somebody somewhere steps in and does the right thing. And sooner rather than later

Unfortunately, the people in power and its influential supporters ARE so INSANELY Face-sanity stubborn to let protests happen as long as their stupid minions kill each other AND the unfortunate bystanders. As long as those in power survive, such "Minor cheap lives" are irrelevant to them, no matter which party is in power.

Nothing new domestically with protest, just C****P it again

......... International protest: Shut down Thailand's communication and internet system, let the generation Y netizen kids suffer and die rot from incurable epidemics and shut Thailand down from the rest of the world......

Face-sanity briefly explained........

[arrowsdawdle]

"i have a parachute medal and you don't! Now shut up and get out of here!"

Now that you mention it, what are all the campaign ribbons on Thai military uniforms?

What campaigns?

• Sending Rohingya out to sea campaign?
• Overthrow the elected government campaign?
• Attitude adjustment campaign?
• Submarine procurement campaign?
• Fake bomb detector campaign?

[yellowboat]

I was planning on investing a small sum of Thb 50.000.000- into Thailand just to make my wife happy. Guess what .................

We are not looking to do more investment in Thailand.

[Damaz6052]

Did anyone read about a press conference by a deputy RTP spokesman on Sunday, wherein the man seemed not to understand why just this case (only) was the source of protests... while there have been 126 (one hunderd twenty six) other murdercases where Burmese were 'involved'!?

It must be hard to understand for some that the Burmese (half?) slaves could be getting fed up being used as scapegoats! ...To protect Thai ...criminals?

To true! As one Burmese man said to me on a Phuket Beach about his case " we're sick of being treated like sh.t by the Thais".

[Plutojames88]

The judicial did not think it was relevant that CCTV footage showed men fleeing from the area in clothing that was different to that worn by the Myanmar workers that night.

In other words it was not the workers in the footage .

A Thai forensic expert said that DNA evidence from the supposed murder weapon did not match that of the accused. Yet the judge didn't care less

Then you have the terrible comments by the crass Prime Minister, Prayuth Chan-ocha, saying that only ugly women were safe wearing bikinis in Thailand

"The Burmese scrap goats were made to re-enact the killings and many saw the marks from the beatings

One reported quoted as saying . "They were a really pitiful sight. Their bodies had all sorts of bruises""

[rudy h]

Hey world "do you know who am I ?".. Where is little Ferrari boy? The B2 need your help about now. On humanitarian grounds of course.

Edited December 29, 2015 by rudy h

[spidermike007]

Of course there will be no review. Conducting a review would mean a lot of things.

1. It would be an admission that the case was not conducted properly.

2. It would be an admission that the police assigned to the case were of inferior quality, not talented or experienced enough, and simply not up to the task.

3. It might be an admission that the real perpetrators are still roaming free, and that is the case due to their massive influence and wealth.

4. It would be rocking the boat. We do not want to upset the status quo, nor the elite and the powerful.

5. It would be fair. We do not want to be fair. Why would we want to be fair? For whom? For what?

6. It would be an admission that we also have doubts about the flimsy and ridiculously inadequate evidence. If the Burmese guys were innocent, and made to do this by their employer (we all know who that was), their DNA would be all over the crime scene.

7. If Nodsod, the truly guilty party, did not rape the gal, but only had her murdered by his henchmen, his DNA would not be on the condom anyway. So, all of the hoopla that has been made of DNA is not really any sort of proof of anything anyway. Why would we want people to be able to question that?

There are so many doubts, and the case was so poorly handled, why would we want to have this re-visited? We got the outcome we wanted. Case closed. Job done. People happy. We happy. Little P. happy. All is good in the world. The outside world does not matter that much anyway. Thailand is the most important country in the world. Everybody knows that.

Edited December 29, 2015 by spidermike007

[Transporter]

Thailand better shuts it doors from the world of modern controversy, all migrant workers should quit and go back home, then there's nobody left to do the dirty work anymore in the future.

What no more scapegoats so no more rape and murder allowed then?

[kkup]

Escape.

[Transporter]

Of course there will be no review. Conducting a review would mean a lot of things.

1. It would be an admission that the case was not conducted properly.

2. It would be an admission that the police assigned to the case were of inferior quality, not talented or experienced enough, and simply not up to the task.

3. It might be an admission that the real perpetrators are still roaming free, and that is the case due to their massive influence and wealth.

4. It would be rocking the boat. We do not want to upset the status quo, nor the elite and the powerful.

5. It would be fair. We do not want to be fair. Why would we want to be fair? For whom? For what?

6. It would be an admission that we also have doubts about the flimsy and ridiculously inadequate evidence. If the Burmese guys were innocent, and made to do this by their employer (we all know who that was), their DNA would be all over the crime scene.

7. If Nodsod, the truly guilty party, did not rape the gal, but only had her murdered by his henchmen, his DNA would not be on the condom anyway. So, all of the hoopla that has been made of DNA is not really any sort of proof of anything anyway. Why would we want people to be able to question that?

There are so many doubts, and the case was so poorly handled, why would we want to have this re-visited? We got the outcome we wanted. Case closed. Job done. People happy. We happy. Little P. happy. All is good in the world. The outside world does not matter that much anyway. Thailand is the most important country in the world. Everybody knows that.

I really want to click like so much. Especially at the mis spelling of the name of the protected little one.

[Transporter]

I think they should all pray for a bigger story to overshadow this one because until that happens it aint gonna go away.

[Maggusoil]

This decision and these justifications, may not just quietly pass away as easily as they think.

[kiwikeith]

Protests are were a tool of democracy, freedom of speech, however this man want's to arrest those repsonsible as they are sinister and plot against his military rule.

A good starting point for a review would be for the Burmese government to ask for a report of the DNA taken from the murder weapon, and why Dr Pornthips results of that DNA of 2 people was never followed up.

They might also ask that the mafia leaders son and the man from AC bar be tested against those results.

I would only guess that this report by DR Pornthip the best forensic scientist in Thailand goes astray or is classified as contaminated.

They might also like to look at their own DNA report which was said to be not the type of report that any court of law could accept.

No review! just arrest protestors, makes the circus look bigger in the international world every day.

[kcirtapyelrah]

I just read the Bangkok Post. Oh my god, they are actually trying to pin outrage on a complete sham of a trial on their political enemies.

Absolutely disgusting.

Why the surprise?

These people in charge and a good percentage of the population prove time and again that they are totally without morals and completely incapable of or uninterested in telling right from wrong!!

Nothing is below them in their quest to keep their all important 'face' and whilst this is priority number one improving themselves, their people or their country is impossible...

I have had enough of the constant lies, cronyism and corruption so I am voting with my feet and getting my family out of this stye of a country before it all comes to a head....

Don't worry cheerleaders and junta lovers I wont let the door hit me on the way out....

It's a pity the majority of falangs didn't think and do the same, it's the only thing that will register with the Thais.

[Delcavom]

No review of Koh Tao case, says Prawit

That stone cold face of Prawit, and the evil smile of the police officer behind him, speaks volumes...

It sure does. They think they are getting away with something but this stuff always comes around at some point. They will all get theirs for their lies.

[biplanebluey]

In other words - "We have the truth as we see it, so that's all that matters."

They did say

Gen Prawit considered the request not an intervention of Thailand’s internal affairs, but merely a disagreement of opinion possibly from different information and facts.

I may be being dumb here but can someone tell me how you can get "DIFFERENT FACTS" ???

[kcirtapyelrah]

I was planning on investing a small sum of Thb 50.000.000- into Thailand just to make my wife happy. Guess what .................

Wow, 50 million is a small amount for you? And you are investing that not for profits but just to make your wife happy? What a lucky man.

You won't make much profit in Thailand.