burner2014 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Hi People, Please lets keep this thread clean and no discussing about safety things. I read some other posts here and I feel the discussion is endless everyone has another opinion to safety. My opinion to safety is that I want to have a car with 4-6 Airbags. I just had a look at a Mazda Dealer and I was really wondered that e.g. the Mazda 2 in all variants has only 2 Airbags. So which cars in Thailand (higher variant or extra costs is ok) have 4-6 Airbags? Price Range: 500 - 900.000 THB , eco car maximum Mazda CX3 (but I feel that car is quite too expansive in the super high version) Thanks for ur help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 The first ones that come to mind are: Ford Focus Honda Jazz Honda City The Ranger pickup also has a full set of airbags in the Wildtrak variant (945K - 1.189M) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burner2014 Posted January 6, 2016 Author Share Posted January 6, 2016 I will test drive Honda City this week as I think its the best price/value . Any other cars in mind? Thanks Bad Kitty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Saw an accident involving a Honda Jazz. You just might need all those airbags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaseTheBass Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) I got a Wildtrak precisely because of its safety features and the likelihood of having Khun Geng smashing into our car with my family on board. Edited January 6, 2016 by JaseTheBass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunano Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I am sure there are still cars sold in Thailand without any airbags installed, especially in the budget version. Apparently they are not compulsory here, so the (Japanese) manufacturers save on safety features. The standard now seems to be two airbags in front and 4-6 in more expensive cars, probably priced around 1 MB and up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I am sure there are still cars sold in Thailand without any airbags installed, especially in the budget version. Apparently they are not compulsory here, so the (Japanese) manufacturers save on safety features. The standard now seems to be two airbags in front and 4-6 in more expensive cars, probably priced around 1 MB and up. Airbags are not mandatory under any legislation, however they are now mandatory, along with VSC, to get top marks in ASEAN NCAP, so you'll see more of them being included in base-spec cars as more people catch on to safety ratings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nbarch Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 My nephew in Canada has the equivalent of a Ford Wildtrack; one evening he slid of the highway after hitting black ice and rolled the pickup down an embankment, the pickup rolled at least 3 times. Apart from shock he and his 2 children just walked away from it. He swears the all those airbags saved his life. When he got the insurance cheque he bought the same model again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazybones Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 The Hilux Revo I just bought has 8 air bags. I don't know about other Toyota models but would suggest that they have the equivalent. The new Fortuna would have the same as the Revo but is outside your price range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemos Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I have a ford focus 2013 Titanium with 9 air bags and lots of other safety features .I paid 57000 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemos Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Oops that should read 570000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) The Hilux Revo I just bought has 8 air bags. I don't know about other Toyota models but would suggest that they have the equivalent. The new Fortuna would have the same as the Revo but is outside your price range. The top-spec Revo 2.8L 4x4 6AT "G" has 2x Front (dash/steering wheel), 2x side (in the front chairs), 2x curtains (from the roof) and 1x knee airbag - that's a total of 7 But it's only the 2.8L G grade that gets them all - the 2.4L variants, and anything lower than a G badge gets just 2 front airbags. The cheapest Revo version with the full set-o-bags is the 2.8L 4x4 G 6MT which is 1.07M Baht. As for the rest of the Toyota range, you can't get anything more than 2x front airbags for < 1M Baht. Edited January 7, 2016 by IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpatOilWorker Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Get a used BMW, you will be surprised how cheap second hand 5 and 3-series are now. My 523i have 10 airbags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunano Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Get a used BMW, you will be surprised how cheap second hand 5 and 3-series are now. My 523i have 10 airbags. perhaps to buy, but very expensive to maintain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchooptip Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I am sure there are still cars sold in Thailand without any airbags installed, especially in the budget version. Apparently they are not compulsory here, so the (Japanese) manufacturers save on safety features. The standard now seems to be two airbags in front and 4-6 in more expensive cars, probably priced around 1 MB and up. I have a Chevrolet Traiblazer LTZ 4wd 1,400,000 and only 2 airbags, so not only Japanese manufacturers behaved like bandits are opportunists with the life of their customers, General Motors too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunano Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I am sure there are still cars sold in Thailand without any airbags installed, especially in the budget version. Apparently they are not compulsory here, so the (Japanese) manufacturers save on safety features. The standard now seems to be two airbags in front and 4-6 in more expensive cars, probably priced around 1 MB and up. I have a Chevrolet Traiblazer LTZ 4wd 1,400,000 and only 2 airbags, so not only Japanese manufacturers behaved like bandits are opportunists with the life of their customers, General Motors too I wonder how many airbags a similar model of your car would have been fitted with if sold in the US... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchooptip Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I am sure there are still cars sold in Thailand without any airbags installed, especially in the budget version. Apparently they are not compulsory here, so the (Japanese) manufacturers save on safety features. The standard now seems to be two airbags in front and 4-6 in more expensive cars, probably priced around 1 MB and up. I have a Chevrolet Traiblazer LTZ 4wd 1,400,000 and only 2 airbags, so not only Japanese manufacturers behaved like bandits are opportunists with the life of their customers, General Motors too I wonder how many airbags a similar model of your car would have been fitted with if sold in the US... Probably 6...But 2 impossible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piusmann Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I have a Proton preve with 10 airbags 4 each side front an 2 head airbags in the rear Apart from its fuel consumption I like the car. Sporty and comfy to drive Costs around 750k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carter1882 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 My car has the full set of airbags.....especially when I take my ex missus for a ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burner2014 Posted January 7, 2016 Author Share Posted January 7, 2016 Hi, thanks for your answers. So what I understand is that it hopefully will change the next years as more people like safety. What I found is the following:750.000 (New) for Honda Jazz oder City with best equipment you get 6 Airbags. All others what I found (ok pickups maybe have also but its too big for me) starts at around 1 Million THB to get 6 Airbags. Really different to Europe But yeah I have to get used to it. Thanks also for sharing the accident story, I think Airbags can safe your life and thats why I want to pay more for 6 Airbags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpatOilWorker Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Get a used BMW, you will be surprised how cheap second hand 5 and 3-series are now. My 523i have 10 airbags.perhaps to buy, but very expensive to maintain I think that is a bit of a myth. Yes, some parts are more expensive than Toyota/Honda, but I have really been surprised how low my maintenance cost have been and my Bimmer is 12 years old now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 So what I understand is that it hopefully will change the next years as more people like safety. In this price range, don't count on it. Ford trailblazed the <1M Baht segment with the original 1.6L Fiesta back in 2010 - the first sub 1M Baht car in Thailand to offer not only the full set of bags, but also the first with traction control and stability control. But the bags were reduced to just 2 in the 2015 minor change, after they learnt, the hard way, that the market in this price bracket just wouldn't pay for them. In the > 1M Baht range, yes, safety features become important to the Thai buyer. Again, Ford is setting the standard to beat in the 1M-2M range with the 2016 Ranger and Everest - top models in these have not only the full set of bags, TCS and VCS, but also with lane keeping assist, forward collision warning, rollover mitigation, roll stability control, blind spot alert, driver alert system, cross traffic alert, front and rear parking sensors, and auto high beam control... But this time around they've created models a step down without these features to satisfy buyers that won't pay the premium.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulfsailor Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 sorry to hijack this thread, but I have a couple of questions regarding airbags; In general how hard does one need to crash to have the airbags deployed? Do all airbags deploy in case of an accident or only the ones required, eg not the back ones if there are no passengers sitting there or not the curtains if it is a head on only crash? What is the average cost of airbag replacement? The thing I worry about is that if I purchase a luxury 10 airbag vehicle and in a light crash with just me inside, all airbags deploy, and I'll have to spend an extra 200,000 baht or so for the airbag replacements on top of the actual repair cost... Please enlighten me how this works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) sorry to hijack this thread, but I have a couple of questions regarding airbags; In general how hard does one need to crash to have the airbags deployed? Do all airbags deploy in case of an accident or only the ones required, eg not the back ones if there are no passengers sitting there or not the curtains if it is a head on only crash? What is the average cost of airbag replacement? The thing I worry about is that if I purchase a luxury 10 airbag vehicle and in a light crash with just me inside, all airbags deploy, and I'll have to spend an extra 200,000 baht or so for the airbag replacements on top of the actual repair cost... Please enlighten me how this works. It's not a set speed of impact, but rather the severity of impact. Crashing into something soft/pliable at low speeds won't set them off (e.g. another car's bumper). Hit something solid at anything more than about 30-40km/hr and it's a balloon party. No car sets them off selectively - they all go - when you see one side/curtains not deploying in crash test videos, that's because they purposely disabled them in order to get inside footage. As with any genuine spare part, prices vary wildly. If you have 10 of them, you'd better also have 1st class insurance - and you'd better make sure they actually get replaced. Edited January 7, 2016 by IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaseTheBass Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I am sure there are still cars sold in Thailand without any airbags installed, especially in the budget version. Apparently they are not compulsory here, so the (Japanese) manufacturers save on safety features. The standard now seems to be two airbags in front and 4-6 in more expensive cars, probably priced around 1 MB and up.I have a Chevrolet Traiblazer LTZ 4wd 1,400,000 and only 2 airbags, so not only Japanese manufacturers behaved like bandits are opportunists with the life of their customers, General Motors too Yes, the Koreans are just as tight as the Japanese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burner2014 Posted January 7, 2016 Author Share Posted January 7, 2016 So what I understand is that it hopefully will change the next years as more people like safety. In this price range, don't count on it. Ford trailblazed the <1M Baht segment with the original 1.6L Fiesta back in 2010 - the first sub 1M Baht car in Thailand to offer not only the full set of bags, but also the first with traction control and stability control. But the bags were reduced to just 2 in the 2015 minor change, after they learnt, the hard way, that the market in this price bracket just wouldn't pay for them. In the > 1M Baht range, yes, safety features become important to the Thai buyer. Again, Ford is setting the standard to beat in the 1M-2M range with the 2016 Ranger and Everest - top models in these have not only the full set of bags, TCS and VCS, but also with lane keeping assist, forward collision warning, rollover mitigation, roll stability control, blind spot alert, driver alert system, cross traffic alert, front and rear parking sensors, and auto high beam control... But this time around they've created models a step down without these features to satisfy buyers that won't pay the premium.. Thanks for the information. I am honest with you who is willing to pay 1 to 2 Million THB for a Car which is really not a high quality car ? Yes Ford is good but compared to Audi... no way. I mean I come from the car country No 1 and I can get an amazing Audi A6 for 1.5 Million THB new ... It is another discussion (Thai Cars or the taxes are completely overpriced , therefore gasoline is cheap) I see now that Thai People dont care that much about Airbags and they not willing to pay extra in the lower price range. And even 700.000 THB for a Honda City is completely overpriced for that kind of quality you get. But yeah another discussion Thanks also for the share with the accident. Follow Up question: Can u recommend a Type One Insurance that replace the airbags? Viriyah? Muang Thai? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Hehehe, yes, you need to adapt to Thai prices You probably don't want to know how much an Audi with these safety features would cost. Or how long you'd have to wait for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGImInPattaya Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 The Honda CRVs have a full complement of airbags...6 or 7 I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Muton Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I'm surprised that nobody has suggested amulets as an alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingray Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) Some top model Ford Fiestas Sport has 7 air bags. Also used imported Japaneses has 6 to 8 air bags, like Lexus ES 300 or Toyota Crowns, etc. Also Volvos, S80 for examples, etc. Edited January 7, 2016 by stingray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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