Farang dating "light skinned" Thai women - feasibility?

[eldragon]

You mention your age and good looks but omit your wealth factor. Finances are the single most important element of any happy stable relationship here. I'm afraid that your age and looks play a very small part in the proceedings. Being well groomed, smelling pleasant and wearing appropriate clean clothes is a definite plus but any failing in that department can be overcome by the aforementioned wealth factor being increased appropriately.

To start out ... Find an ugly one but don't shag it. Enter into her circle of friends only. Establish yourself as a clean, well spoken and upstanding young man. Display all of the discreet expensive adornments such as a Rolex watch and a car. Look for the thickest, most stupid and manipulable cow in the group of friends, then make your move! Good luck, happy hunting.

Meh

Money and flash/show only matters to the wannabe hi-sos.

The types who do FHM covers and the like - they're perennial social climbers and pretend to be hi-so but they're trash.

Listen to them cuss a lackey at the hairdressers or nail salon and you'll quickly realise just how second-rate they really are

If the OP's looking for casual sex with relatively genuine hi-sos - he needs to head to Thonglor, Ekkamai etc - they won't talk to him easily especially if their mates are watching and if their English is lacking.

If they do shag him, it'll come at heavy financial cost

Cost how?

[eldragon]

In general, Id say the kind of Thai girl you described dating a foreigner happens about as often as a wealthy white girl back home dates a minority from the ghetto.

It goes on a hell of a lot in the big cities. NYC, London, Paris and particularly in Stockholm

Fair enough. Not something you see every day around here though. In fact, I rarely see foreigners with attractive Thai women of any descent these days.

[FritsSikkink]

chang mai women seem to be whiter are they chinnese bred as well l don't think so

a lot are

[bangsaenguy]

A Thai lady bought me a drink once. Of course, I've lived here 20 years and it was only the once. I've no idea about how the wanna be hi-so women talk in hair and nail salons, however. Not somewhere I frequent.

Edited January 13, 2016 by bangsaenguy

[Youaredoomed]

You mention your age and good looks but omit your wealth factor. Finances are the single most important element of any happy stable relationship here. I'm afraid that your age and looks play a very small part in the proceedings. Being well groomed, smelling pleasant and wearing appropriate clean clothes is a definite plus but any failing in that department can be overcome by the aforementioned wealth factor being increased appropriately.

To start out ... Find an ugly one but don't shag it. Enter into her circle of friends only. Establish yourself as a clean, well spoken and upstanding young man. Display all of the discreet expensive adornments such as a Rolex watch and a car. Look for the thickest, most stupid and manipulable cow in the group of friends, then make your move! Good luck, happy hunting.

Meh

Money and flash/show only matters to the wannabe hi-sos.

The types who do FHM covers and the like - they're perennial social climbers and pretend to be hi-so but they're trash.

Listen to them cuss a lackey at the hairdressers or nail salon and you'll quickly realise just how second-rate they really are

If the OP's looking for casual sex with relatively genuine hi-sos - he needs to head to Thonglor, Ekkamai etc - they won't talk to him easily especially if their mates are watching and if their English is lacking.

If they do shag him, it'll come at heavy financial cost

Cost how?

Endless shopping trips down at Paragon or Emporium (or similar).

I love it when I see some deluded fool thinking he's got a hottie 'for free' getting dragged around Bangkok's pricier shopping areas blowing his holiday budget/TEFL salary inside a day.

Best to stick to the less ambitious local crumpet, most of whom seem happy with a few Spys and a bit of grub in the evening and most of who are equally as hot as their more ambitious gold digging Thong Lor counterparts.

[eldragon]

You mention your age and good looks but omit your wealth factor. Finances are the single most important element of any happy stable relationship here. I'm afraid that your age and looks play a very small part in the proceedings. Being well groomed, smelling pleasant and wearing appropriate clean clothes is a definite plus but any failing in that department can be overcome by the aforementioned wealth factor being increased appropriately.

To start out ... Find an ugly one but don't shag it. Enter into her circle of friends only. Establish yourself as a clean, well spoken and upstanding young man. Display all of the discreet expensive adornments such as a Rolex watch and a car. Look for the thickest, most stupid and manipulable cow in the group of friends, then make your move! Good luck, happy hunting.

Meh

Money and flash/show only matters to the wannabe hi-sos.

The types who do FHM covers and the like - they're perennial social climbers and pretend to be hi-so but they're trash.

Listen to them cuss a lackey at the hairdressers or nail salon and you'll quickly realise just how second-rate they really are

If the OP's looking for casual sex with relatively genuine hi-sos - he needs to head to Thonglor, Ekkamai etc - they won't talk to him easily especially if their mates are watching and if their English is lacking.

If they do shag him, it'll come at heavy financial cost

Cost how?

Endless shopping trips down at Paragon or Emporium (or similar).

I love it when I see some deluded fool thinking he's got a hottie 'for free' getting dragged around Bangkok's pricier shopping areas blowing his holiday budget/TEFL salary inside a day.

Best to stick to the less ambitious local crumpet, most of whom seem happy with a few Spys and a bit of grub in the evening and most of who are equally as hot as their more ambitious gold digging Thong Lor counterparts.

They all look the same with their clothes off and the lights turned down.

[Youaredoomed]

They all look the same with their clothes off and the lights turned down.

Indeed but you ain't seen my pal Wobbly Bob's missus. She's not the best looking of Thai lasses.....

[petedk]

You mention your age and good looks but omit your wealth factor. Finances are the single most important element of any happy stable relationship here. I'm afraid that your age and looks play a very small part in the proceedings. Being well groomed, smelling pleasant and wearing appropriate clean clothes is a definite plus but any failing in that department can be overcome by the aforementioned wealth factor being increased appropriately.

To start out ... Find an ugly one but don't shag it. Enter into her circle of friends only. Establish yourself as a clean, well spoken and upstanding young man. Display all of the discreet expensive adornments such as a Rolex watch and a car. Look for the thickest, most stupid and manipulable cow in the group of friends, then make your move! Good luck, happy hunting.

Meh

Money and flash/show only matters to the wannabe hi-sos.

The types who do FHM covers and the like - they're perennial social climbers and pretend to be hi-so but they're trash.

Listen to them cuss a lackey at the hairdressers or nail salon and you'll quickly realise just how second-rate they really are

If the OP's looking for casual sex with relatively genuine hi-sos - he needs to head to Thonglor, Ekkamai etc - they won't talk to him easily especially if their mates are watching and if their English is lacking.

If they do shag him, it'll come at heavy financial cost

Cost how?

Endless shopping trips down at Paragon or Emporium (or similar).

I love it when I see some deluded fool thinking he's got a hottie 'for free' getting dragged around Bangkok's pricier shopping areas blowing his holiday budget/TEFL salary inside a day.

Best to stick to the less ambitious local crumpet, most of whom seem happy with a few Spys and a bit of grub in the evening and most of who are equally as hot as their more ambitious gold digging Thong Lor counterparts.

Well my fair skinned Thong Lor girl is certainly not a gold digger. We have been together for nearly 20 years.

Her family have far more money than I'll ever earn and they accept me as part of the family. I couldn't be happier.

We have worked out our economy. She has her own money to buy any luxury she wants and I pay running costs on the house.

So yes it can be done. Farang with white skinned rich Thai girl. I wouldn't class them as hi-so, but many of our good friends are. Most of them are very down to earth when you know them.

[eldragon]

You mention your age and good looks but omit your wealth factor. Finances are the single most important element of any happy stable relationship here. I'm afraid that your age and looks play a very small part in the proceedings. Being well groomed, smelling pleasant and wearing appropriate clean clothes is a definite plus but any failing in that department can be overcome by the aforementioned wealth factor being increased appropriately.

To start out ... Find an ugly one but don't shag it. Enter into her circle of friends only. Establish yourself as a clean, well spoken and upstanding young man. Display all of the discreet expensive adornments such as a Rolex watch and a car. Look for the thickest, most stupid and manipulable cow in the group of friends, then make your move! Good luck, happy hunting.

Meh

Money and flash/show only matters to the wannabe hi-sos.

The types who do FHM covers and the like - they're perennial social climbers and pretend to be hi-so but they're trash.

Listen to them cuss a lackey at the hairdressers or nail salon and you'll quickly realise just how second-rate they really are

If the OP's looking for casual sex with relatively genuine hi-sos - he needs to head to Thonglor, Ekkamai etc - they won't talk to him easily especially if their mates are watching and if their English is lacking.

If they do shag him, it'll come at heavy financial cost

Cost how?

Endless shopping trips down at Paragon or Emporium (or similar).

I love it when I see some deluded fool thinking he's got a hottie 'for free' getting dragged around Bangkok's pricier shopping areas blowing his holiday budget/TEFL salary inside a day.

Best to stick to the less ambitious local crumpet, most of whom seem happy with a few Spys and a bit of grub in the evening and most of who are equally as hot as their more ambitious gold digging Thong Lor counterparts.

Well my fair skinned Thong Lor girl is certainly not a gold digger. We have been together for nearly 20 years.

Her family have far more money than I'll ever earn and they accept me as part of the family. I couldn't be happier.

We have worked out our economy. She has her own money to buy any luxury she wants and I pay running costs on the house.

So yes it can be done. Farang with white skinned rich Thai girl. I wouldn't class them as hi-so, but many of our good friends are. Most of them are very down to earth when you know them.

Anything's possible. But I hear and sense that being with a foreigner is not nearly as glamorous for a Thai as it was twenty or more years ago.

[ldiablo]

You know who i mean, the so called hi-so girls. The Chinese-Thai ones.

How feasible is it for a good looking farang in his early 30s to go out with them?

Any experiences?

Why are you asking this? You're a grown man. Do what the heck you want.

[Sheryl]

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[theguyfromanotherforum]

Thong Lo? Ekkamai for hiso? Maybe you mean prostitutes? God, people really have no clue what that are talking about here. "Hiso" live in all parts of the city and are definitely not confined to farang areas like Ekkamai. I know a few who don't even live in luxury even though their property is worth several BILLION baht

[richard_smith237]

I'm not sure why this is such a big deal to some...

In my 30's I found it quite easy to meet respectable, financially independent, educated Thai ladies... my friends also found it easy...

Not that its important, but as the Op asked - in the List of ladies my Friends and I have dated in the past: Lawyers, Interior Designers, Flight Attendants, Air-Traffic Controller as well as wealthy girls working for their parents companies... All in the same age bracket, all could be described as being within the same socio-economic bracket.

What we had to offer ?... I'm not sure, but my guess is that we had a good mix of Thai and Western friends, we socialised in groups often at the same place.. most of our dates came through introductions via extended friendship groups (friend of a friend of a friend etc)...

Some guys just don't get it though - talking about local crumpet, getting it for free etc... once some guys can get themselves away from assuming all girls are available for money etc and are looking a mutually respectful relationship its easy enough to see and recognise that there really isn't a great deal of difference between ladies in Thailand and ladies back in our home countries....

There is a little stigma to get over at first which is why introductions are helpful... but thats about it.

[AlexRRR]

Those white skinned hi so Thai women are Japanese expats, if you didn't know and had to ask you got no chance so forget it.

[theguyfromanotherforum]

its easy enough to see and recognise that there really isn't a great deal of difference between ladies in Thailand and ladies back in our home countries....

There is a little stigma to get over at first which is why introductions are helpful... but thats about it.

Nice post and no sarcasm on my part, but let's be a little honest here.

If you are a half decent foreigner in Thailand and don't chase certain women like you so well explained in your post then your chances of meeting a career woman are much higher than they will ever be in the West. Thai women (ever rich ones) are a lot more forgiving of any shortcomings a Westerner may have and as long as you are well behaved in front of parents, you are in.

[Inyourendo]

Possible....not easy though....more middle class thannhiso

[dbrenn]

Your chances of getting a decent and pretty lady as a girlfriend in Thailand are the same as your chances of getting a decent and pretty girl in your home country. They'll like you if you are confident, witty and good looking, with a stable and successful occupation.

[Berkshire]

In general, Id say the kind of Thai girl you described dating a foreigner happens about as often as a wealthy white girl back home dates a minority from the ghetto.

Yeap, that's pretty much the truth. Might even be less often than your example. I doubt many farangs have even met a "hi so." Just because a girl has light skin and isn't interested in farangs doesn't make her hi-so. Most Thai girls who are young/attractive and have their own money will almost always prefer a Thai guy...but not just any Thai guy. The dude has to have the full package as well.

[Cypress Hill]

Thong Lo? Ekkamai for hiso? Maybe you mean prostitutes? God, people really have no clue what that are talking about here. "Hiso" live in all parts of the city and are definitely not confined to farang areas like Ekkamai. I know a few who don't even live in luxury even though their property is worth several BILLION baht

No you're the one who hasn't got a clue

The OP asked if it was possible to date hiso birds - he's not going to set up camp outside their homes, is he so who gives a toss where they live??

Many go to places like Muse, Nunglen, Escobar, (if it's still open), Sing Sing Theater, Iron Fairies, Badmotel . . . hell, even Demo and Funky Villa.

The prostitutes you're spouting about don't frequent those places because, with the exception of Sing Sing and Iron Fairies, they're pretty much 100% Thai and Thai men worth their salt won't be seen dead getting down with hoes in a public bar.

That said, many don't go out much past midnight and can be found at some of the more obvious daytime hangouts like EM Quartier eating at joints like Roast or less conspicuously at K Village in Phrom Phong.

You run along now and come back when you know what you're talking about, y'hear?

[eldragon]

Thong Lo? Ekkamai for hiso? Maybe you mean prostitutes? God, people really have no clue what that are talking about here. "Hiso" live in all parts of the city and are definitely not confined to farang areas like Ekkamai. I know a few who don't even live in luxury even though their property is worth several BILLION baht

Those areas seem to have the highest concentration of the type of women (at least in appearance) OP is looking for. Good point though.

[eldragon]

I'm not sure why this is such a big deal to some...

In my 30's I found it quite easy to meet respectable, financially independent, educated Thai ladies... my friends also found it easy...

Not that its important, but as the Op asked - in the List of ladies my Friends and I have dated in the past: Lawyers, Interior Designers, Flight Attendants, Air-Traffic Controller as well as wealthy girls working for their parents companies... All in the same age bracket, all could be described as being within the same socio-economic bracket.

What we had to offer ?... I'm not sure, but my guess is that we had a good mix of Thai and Western friends, we socialised in groups often at the same place.. most of our dates came through introductions via extended friendship groups (friend of a friend of a friend etc)...

Some guys just don't get it though - talking about local crumpet, getting it for free etc... once some guys can get themselves away from assuming all girls are available for money etc and are looking a mutually respectful relationship its easy enough to see and recognise that there really isn't a great deal of difference between ladies in Thailand and ladies back in our home countries....

There is a little stigma to get over at first which is why introductions are helpful... but thats about it.

Not sure when you were in your 30s, but Thailand is not even the same place it was five years ago. It mightve been easy to meet a classy Thai girl back in the day, but at this point youve got a couple generations of negative stereotypes built up. Couple that with the fact that Thai salaries are up and prestigious positions for foreigners are down and we dont look so desirable anymore. Edited January 13, 2016 by eldragon

[richard_smith237]

I'm not sure why this is such a big deal to some...

In my 30's I found it quite easy to meet respectable, financially independent, educated Thai ladies... my friends also found it easy...

Not that its important, but as the Op asked - in the List of ladies my Friends and I have dated in the past: Lawyers, Interior Designers, Flight Attendants, Air-Traffic Controller as well as wealthy girls working for their parents companies... All in the same age bracket, all could be described as being within the same socio-economic bracket.

What we had to offer ?... I'm not sure, but my guess is that we had a good mix of Thai and Western friends, we socialised in groups often at the same place.. most of our dates came through introductions via extended friendship groups (friend of a friend of a friend etc)...

Some guys just don't get it though - talking about local crumpet, getting it for free etc... once some guys can get themselves away from assuming all girls are available for money etc and are looking a mutually respectful relationship its easy enough to see and recognise that there really isn't a great deal of difference between ladies in Thailand and ladies back in our home countries....

There is a little stigma to get over at first which is why introductions are helpful... but thats about it.

Not sure when you were in your 30s, but Thailand is not even the same place it was five years ago. It mightve been easy to meet a classy Thai girl back in the day, but at this point youve got a couple generations of negative stereotypes built up. Couple that with the fact that Thai salaries are up and prestigious positions for foreigners are down and we dont look so desirable anymore.

Fundamentally flawed: Your argument may work for those who expect to secure a relationship with those girls in need of financial security... but for the financially independent little has changed... why would it? People with choice, in this case Thai ladies, can and always have been able to pick and choose.... they still can.

There are young desirable foreign men out there who may well find themselves meeting and dating desirable young Thai ladies who are clever enough and open minded enough.....

In fact I suspect this bracket is opening up..

However, to many on here, myself included, the possibilities may appear to be diminishing because we are simply getting older and are now 'out of the running'... whatever the excuses may be, we are simply not desirable because these ladies can make a choice, but for the younger chaps there are many many options.

[theguyfromanotherforum]

Thong Lo? Ekkamai for hiso? Maybe you mean prostitutes? God, people really have no clue what that are talking about here. "Hiso" live in all parts of the city and are definitely not confined to farang areas like Ekkamai. I know a few who don't even live in luxury even though their property is worth several BILLION baht

No you're the one who hasn't got a clue

The OP asked if it was possible to date hiso birds - he's not going to set up camp outside their homes, is he so who gives a toss where they live??

Many go to places like Muse, Nunglen, Escobar, (if it's still open), Sing Sing Theater, Iron Fairies, Badmotel . . . hell, even Demo and Funky Villa.

The prostitutes you're spouting about don't frequent those places because, with the exception of Sing Sing and Iron Fairies, they're pretty much 100% Thai and Thai men worth their salt won't be seen dead getting down with hoes in a public bar.

That said, many don't go out much past midnight and can be found at some of the more obvious daytime hangouts like EM Quartier eating at joints like Roast or less conspicuously at K Village in Phrom Phong.

You run along now and come back when you know what you're talking about, y'hear?

Like I said.... prostitutes.

[Cypress Hill]

Thong Lo? Ekkamai for hiso? Maybe you mean prostitutes? God, people really have no clue what that are talking about here. "Hiso" live in all parts of the city and are definitely not confined to farang areas like Ekkamai. I know a few who don't even live in luxury even though their property is worth several BILLION baht

No you're the one who hasn't got a clue

The OP asked if it was possible to date hiso birds - he's not going to set up camp outside their homes, is he so who gives a toss where they live??

Many go to places like Muse, Nunglen, Escobar, (if it's still open), Sing Sing Theater, Iron Fairies, Badmotel . . . hell, even Demo and Funky Villa.

The prostitutes you're spouting about don't frequent those places because, with the exception of Sing Sing and Iron Fairies, they're pretty much 100% Thai and Thai men worth their salt won't be seen dead getting down with hoes in a public bar.

That said, many don't go out much past midnight and can be found at some of the more obvious daytime hangouts like EM Quartier eating at joints like Roast or less conspicuously at K Village in Phrom Phong.

You run along now and come back when you know what you're talking about, y'hear?

Like I said.... prostitutes.

So any woman who is out later than midnight is a prostitute?

OK well, like I said . . . clueless

[eldragon]

I'm not sure why this is such a big deal to some...

In my 30's I found it quite easy to meet respectable, financially independent, educated Thai ladies... my friends also found it easy...

Not that its important, but as the Op asked - in the List of ladies my Friends and I have dated in the past: Lawyers, Interior Designers, Flight Attendants, Air-Traffic Controller as well as wealthy girls working for their parents companies... All in the same age bracket, all could be described as being within the same socio-economic bracket.

What we had to offer ?... I'm not sure, but my guess is that we had a good mix of Thai and Western friends, we socialised in groups often at the same place.. most of our dates came through introductions via extended friendship groups (friend of a friend of a friend etc)...

Some guys just don't get it though - talking about local crumpet, getting it for free etc... once some guys can get themselves away from assuming all girls are available for money etc and are looking a mutually respectful relationship its easy enough to see and recognise that there really isn't a great deal of difference between ladies in Thailand and ladies back in our home countries....

There is a little stigma to get over at first which is why introductions are helpful... but thats about it.

Not sure when you were in your 30s, but Thailand is not even the same place it was five years ago. It mightve been easy to meet a classy Thai girl back in the day, but at this point youve got a couple generations of negative stereotypes built up. Couple that with the fact that Thai salaries are up and prestigious positions for foreigners are down and we dont look so desirable anymore.

Fundamentally flawed: Your argument may work for those who expect to secure a relationship with those girls in need of financial security... but for the financially independent little has changed... why would it? People with choice, in this case Thai ladies, can and always have been able to pick and choose.... they still can.

There are young desirable foreign men out there who may well find themselves meeting and dating desirable young Thai ladies who are clever enough and open minded enough.....

In fact I suspect this bracket is opening up..

However, to many on here, myself included, the possibilities may appear to be diminishing because we are simply getting older and are now 'out of the running'... whatever the excuses may be, we are simply not desirable because these ladies can make a choice, but for the younger chaps there are many many options.

Bc of the increasingly negative stereotypes associated with Thai girl/foreign man relationships. And girls generally look to marry up. Good points though. Anything can happen. Anyway, I think OP is just looking for a few flings, so it probably just comes down to looks and cool factor for him.

[White Christmas13]

Sorry no, I only go for the fat ,ugly, dark skinned, Lo-So , Issan flat nose , retarded type.

You are lucky then

[Cypress Hill]

Jeez, you people are talking as though so-called "hi-so" Thai women represent the global pinnacle of womanhood.

Don't make me laugh

Any guy looking for real class from an Asian woman would be in Japan chasing the real McKoy.

He wouldn't be sniffing around vacuous, branded clothes horses with precious little intellectual curiosity who probably regard themselves as too precious to stand over a bloody stove.

[theguyfromanotherforum]

Jeez, you people are talking as though so-called "hi-so" Thai women represent the global pinnacle of womanhood.

Don't make me laugh

Any guy looking for real class from an Asian woman would be in Japan chasing the real McKoy.

He wouldn't be sniffing around vacuous, branded clothes horses with precious little intellectual curiosity who probably regard themselves as too precious to stand over a bloody stove.

I agree with this, however.

[talberry2]

Unless you're just in it for the beauty and sex, find a nice Philipino woman here. More personality, doesn't drag you around like they got a leash on you, and doesn't rob you blind in the years to come after you've paid for the house. Make sure to talk to other men who have invested years with a Thai woman. I'm sure this will not be the only case you've heard of this...

[eldragon]

Unless you're just in it for the beauty and sex, find a nice Philipino woman here. More personality, doesn't drag you around like they got a leash on you, and doesn't rob you blind in the years to come after you've paid for the house. Make sure to talk to other men who have invested years with a Thai woman. I'm sure this will not be the only case you've heard of this...

OP is trying to shag hi-so Thai girls. Presumably the type whose fathers can buy em a house as easily as squeezing out a good fart in the morning. Not the type thats gonna run off with your money. And hes not interested in a relationship. Which now that I think about it is not as impossible as I initially thought. As long as hes got the coin to hang with them a few days a week, and doesnt look like a goblin, I see no reason why he couldnt pull it off. Just gotta understand the stereotypes youre up against. I would question if thats what you really want though. I have some hi-so friends and meet some other ones from time to time and find em all to be pretty boring. Sure, theyre able to discuss more than food and where they like to travel or shop. But they just come off as kinda stilted and staged. I also find it very odd the way they seem aloof towards foreigners yet at the same time are championing this weird Thai emulation of western culture.

OP, if I were in my early 30s, Id be going for university girls. Theyre typically pretty fun, and open-minded. Care less what people think about em too.

Edited January 14, 2016 by eldragon