vincent13 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Hey guys, did a search but the search function doesn't seem to be working. I am currently on an Non-O Retirement extension of stay. Next extension of stay falls due in October. I want to change to a "marriage visa". My questions are: Can I apply for a marriage visa now or is it best to apply at the time my current "retirement" extension of stay is due to expire? Am I able to simply apply at my local Immigration Office (Sakon Nakhon)? Can anyone post a link to the current marriage visa requirements? Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elviajero Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 If you want to change the reason for your extension to marriage from retirement you can do so in October. I suggest you check on the requirements nearer the time, but for now as a rough guide the requirements are: Cost: 1,900 baht Form TM7 Your wife would need to be with you. You can apply within the last 30 days (45 at some offices) of your current permission to stay. Financial requirements: 400k in a Thai bank account for 2 months prior to the application date OR a minimum income (certified by embassy) of 40k pm. Original and signed copies of your marriage certificate and Kor Ror 2 marriage registry. Signed copies of your wife's house book (Tabien Ban) and ID. Maybe form TM30 completed by the owner/house-master of the address you stay at along with signed copies of their house book and ID. Map showing where you live. Photos of you and your wife at your address. One with the house number in the picture and others around the house. Signed copies of your passport: Photo page, entry stamp, visa, departure card. Maybe a witness. Maybe they will want to do a home visit. You can apply at the office that covers the area given as your address on the application 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent13 Posted January 14, 2016 Author Share Posted January 14, 2016 Thanks elviajero, the requirements you have outlined won't be a problem. I assume I could do before October if I wanted to. Also, I assume that I am not applying for a new visa but simply applying for an extension of stay based on the grounds of "marriage" rather than "retirement". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eclipse Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 When the time comes to apply for a new extension do it for Marriage rather than Retirement. Most offices will do it 45 days early. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khwaibah Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 If you want to change the reason for your extension to marriage from retirement you can do so in October. I suggest you check on the requirements nearer the time, but for now as a rough guide the requirements are: Cost: 1,900 baht Form TM7 Your wife would need to be with you. You can apply within the last 30 days (45 at some offices) of your current permission to stay. Financial requirements: 400k in a Thai bank account for 2 months prior to the application date OR a minimum income (certified by embassy) of 40k pm. Original and signed copies of your marriage certificate and Kor Ror 2 marriage registry. Signed copies of your wife's house book (Tabien Ban) and ID. Maybe form TM30 completed by the owner/house-master of the address you stay at along with signed copies of their house book and ID. Map showing where you live. Photos of you and your wife at your address. One with the house number in the picture and others around the house. Signed copies of your passport: Photo page, entry stamp, visa, departure card. Maybe a witness. Maybe they will want to do a home visit. You can apply at the office that covers the area given as your address on the application Diffently need witness as 99% immigration will make a visit the first time. Also they will want 3 photos 3.5x5 of you and the wife about your house,one of these needs to show your house address in it. Depending on your immigration office you can apply up to 45 days early. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache704 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 In Udon Thani I was told that I would have to get a Non O Visa in Vientianne if I wanted to switch from Retirement to Marriage extension of stay and then apply for the marriage extension. Would I not have to leave the country? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eclipse Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Udon do seem to be doing some strange things lately. That is not the norm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpinx Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 (edited) Not sure why one would want to change from the retirement visa to marriage. The retirement visa is much easier to do, especially if you use the proof of income method Edited January 14, 2016 by jpinx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 In Udon Thani I was told that I would have to get a Non O Visa in Vientianne if I wanted to switch from Retirement to Marriage extension of stay and then apply for the marriage extension. Would I not have to leave the country? Was that near the end of your current extension. You can only do the change when your current one is ending. Before that you would have to leave and get a new visa to do the change.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eclipse Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Not sure why one would want to change from the retirement visa to marriage. The retirement visa is much easier to do, especially if you use the proof of income method Not if he no longer qualifies it is not. The Marriage extension is not that difficult anyway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elviajero Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Thanks elviajero, the requirements you have outlined won't be a problem. I assume I could do before October if I wanted to. Also, I assume that I am not applying for a new visa but simply applying for an extension of stay based on the grounds of "marriage" rather than "retirement". You will only be able to make the change within 30/45 days of when you current extension ends. You can't change the reason for the extension now and there would be no point. Yes that's correct. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache704 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 In Udon Thani I was told that I would have to get a Non O Visa in Vientianne if I wanted to switch from Retirement to Marriage extension of stay and then apply for the marriage extension. Would I not have to leave the country? Was that near the end of your current extension. You can only do the change when your current one is ending. Before that you would have to leave and get a new visa to do the change.. Not sure UbonJoe but it was probably before my Retirement extension ended as I was doing my 90 day report at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 In Udon Thani I was told that I would have to get a Non O Visa in Vientianne if I wanted to switch from Retirement to Marriage extension of stay and then apply for the marriage extension. Would I not have to leave the country? Was that near the end of your current extension. You can only do the change when your current one is ending. Before that you would have to leave and get a new visa to do the change.. Not sure UbonJoe but it was probably before my Retirement extension ended as I was doing my 90 day report at the time. I think they told you to get a new visa because they thought you wanted to do it then. I think if you went in prepared to apply for an extension based upon marriage instead of retirement they would do it if you did not have the financial requirements for retirement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent13 Posted January 14, 2016 Author Share Posted January 14, 2016 Thanks for all the replies, I think most of the issues swirling around my brain have been answered. Jpinx, the reason for contemplating the change is my understanding that if I have an extension of stay based on marriage I can then "work" in the "family business" without a work permit. Would be very interested in any comments from forum members on that issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Thanks for all the replies, I think most of the issues swirling around my brain have been answered. Jpinx, the reason for contemplating the change is my understanding that if I have an extension of stay based on marriage I can then "work" in the "family business" without a work permit. Would be very interested in any comments from forum members on that issue. To work in the family business you would still need a work permit. You could setup a partnership with you wife and get a work permit. It would require 1 million baht of registered capital. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpinx Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Thanks for all the replies, I think most of the issues swirling around my brain have been answered. Jpinx, the reason for contemplating the change is my understanding that if I have an extension of stay based on marriage I can then "work" in the "family business" without a work permit. Would be very interested in any comments from forum members on that issue. Ubonjoe has beaten me to it so I will only say that you really need to talk to the Thai offices that deal with work permits in your area. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dick turpin Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Just a thought, but when I switched from a marriage to a retirement extension I rolled up at immigration a good three weeks before my marriage extension expired in case their were any problems. There were no problems, but they dated my new retirement extension from the day of application, meaning I effectively lost three weeks in the mix. No big deal, but if it works the same when switching from retirement to marriage extension, perhaps best not to pitch up too early. You appreciate, of course. that a marriage extension requires two visits, which is a pain in the rectum if you live some distance away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent13 Posted January 14, 2016 Author Share Posted January 14, 2016 Again, many thanks for the replies; in particular, ubonjoe and Jpinx on the work permit issue. Will now have to give this matter some more thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpinx Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Just a thought, but when I switched from a marriage to a retirement extension I rolled up at immigration a good three weeks before my marriage extension expired in case their were any problems. There were no problems, but they dated my new retirement extension from the day of application, meaning I effectively lost three weeks in the mix. No big deal, but if it works the same when switching from retirement to marriage extension, perhaps best not to pitch up too early. You appreciate, of course. that a marriage extension requires two visits, which is a pain in the rectum if you live some distance away. Which is why I said that the retirement visa is easier to do, especially if done by the income method if possible. A lot of embassies will do the confirmation letter by email/post, and it's only one visit to the immigration office -- unless you forget something ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sendbaht Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 I did the oppose for years I did the marriage ( yes it's officially it's not a marriage visa) visa but changed to the retirement visa... Retirement visa sure is easy..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gentry Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 On 1/13/2016 at 7:04 PM, jpinx said: Not sure why one would want to change from the retirement visa to marriage. The retirement visa is much easier to do, especially if you use the proof of income method agreed . . . . and especially since retirement will last until you die whereas marriage in thailand may not . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gentry Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 On 1/14/2016 at 1:21 AM, dick turpin said: Just a thought, but when I switched from a marriage to a retirement extension I rolled up at immigration a good three weeks before my marriage extension expired in case their were any problems. There were no problems, but they dated my new retirement extension from the day of application, meaning I effectively lost three weeks in the mix. No big deal, but if it works the same when switching from retirement to marriage extension, perhaps best not to pitch up too early. You appreciate, of course. that a marriage extension requires two visits, which is a pain in the rectum if you live some distance away. can you change your marriage visa to a retirement visa in-country??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gentry Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 On 1/14/2016 at 0:47 AM, vincent13 said: Thanks for all the replies, I think most of the issues swirling around my brain have been answered. Jpinx, the reason for contemplating the change is my understanding that if I have an extension of stay based on marriage I can then "work" in the "family business" without a work permit. Would be very interested in any comments from forum members on that issue. you will still need a work permit - it is just easier to obtain if youre on a marriage visa . . . . but why switch???? just opening a can of worms if you ask me . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 48 minutes ago, gentry said: agreed . . . . and especially since retirement will last until you die whereas marriage in thailand may not . . . . Why did you dig up a 15 month old topic to reply to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gentry Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, ubonjoe said: Why did you dig up a 15 month old topic to reply to. well, i was actually looking for info about changing a marriage visa to a retirement visa and saw this guy was doing the opposite and just had to say something . . . better late than never . . . . Edited April 6, 2017 by gentry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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