Advice

[350torana]

G'day

I am an Australian (from that southern isle state all u mainlanders like to poke fun at ) Anyways , i am after some advice about my wifes spouse visa, haven't applied yet, but have the multitude of paperwork in front of me.

My first question is. We have an 8 month old daughter, will this speed things/make things easier when applying? I have already got her Australian citizen certificate by descent, her passport is still being processed. Have to say they are pretty tight arse about finding wtnesses to gaurantee her photo. Any idea how hard it is to find Thai nationals who are Dr's, lawyers , accountants ect...who ARE NOT FAMILY MEMBERS.?? Either this or get an aussie passport holder to sign (who has known her since birth). Sorry guys, just reading the small print.

My second question is about my situation. I have been living in Thailand for the last 8 months. I left half way through my second uni degree to help my wife and new born. I have a history of odd jobs, not long term carrer jobs. But, my family are well off and would love my wife and daughter to move to Australia and willing to put up the money. My olds are divorced, but my mum and dad have both individually visited Thailand to see their granddaughter. Also visited the UAE as a family on two occasions as a family, to vist my mother

My 3rd question is about my wife. She is from a middle class Bkk family. She studied in Australia for 2 years in high school .But, has changed her name since , for family reasons. Should I use this or just keep mum about the whole name changing thing?

Sorry for all the dribble, but just curious if these kinda things will help .From the stories i read about my country's embassy it really does scare me, espiecally at $1000 a pop for a spouse visa .

thanks for your time

long live the torrie

ps, i know spouse takes a whiles to process, is it possible to get visitor visas while being processesed?

[caughtintheact]

Will daughter speed things up or slow things down. More likely slow things down because of the additional paperwork you and spouse will have to do and the additional processing time for verification. Should not involve a lot more time though, but difficult to quantify.

Non-family memberto certify: The wife should be able to go to any lawyer. Since she is in Bangkok she can contact Ronachai Krisdaolarn <[email protected]>. His office is on the 17th floor, ITF Tower 2, Silom at the intersection of Silom and the recently cut Chongnonsee Road...look for the windmill. He's an American lawyer who became a Thai citizen and an oxymoron, an honest lawyer!!And I am not a lawyer, but he is my lawyer.

My second question is about my situation

....Don't see any question, Is it about staying here or taking your wife to another country?

Name change: Her name is the name on her official papers, not some former name. Unless there is some criminal investigation, her old name is of no matter. Never tell people more than they need to know - it will come back to bite you.

Visitor's visa while waiting. Only a tourist visa.

I recommend that you consult a lawyer or your embassy if there are any difficulties.

You've probably seen these web pages, but I've thrown them in anyway just in case.

http://www.immi.gov.au/migration/family/partners/spouse.htm

http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/990i.pdf

[Pink Mist]

A member called genuine has just got his wife's spouse visa processed in 5 weeks, which I found absolutely amazing as it was much longer. He said the application process has just changed and you have your first interview immediately.

I have been told that going for a tourist visa is not a good idea while waiting for the other and in my case was true.

Read the book available from the DIMA web site, spouse migration, it's pretty detailed, so follow the guidelines. Having said that, it really is rafferties rules in that joint so you just have to give it your best shot.

If you can get your Mum or Dad to go to the DIMA office in Hobart and pay for the visa application there it's cheaper, when we applied in Nov2002 it was $1200 then, and I believe it's gone up since.

Just remember two heads are better than one (apparently), had to say that.

good luck.

[penelope]

My wife has been through the entire process from temp visa status to aussie citizenship, completed about 5 years ago...but from what i understand from members like bronco is that things are alot different/more bureacratic now ?? Therfore any advice from I, despite the experince, might be a little outdated.

[Pink Mist]

My wife has been through the entire process from temp visa status to aussie citizenship, completed about 5 years ago...but from what i understand from members like bronco is that things are alot different/more bureacratic now ?? Therfore any advice from I, despite the experince, might be a little outdated.

yes but I just got told this week that the process at BKK has somehow been streamlined, only 5 weeks from application??

[lopburi3]

Name change: Her name is the name on her official papers, not some former name. Unless there is some criminal investigation, her old name is of no matter. Never tell people more than they need to know - it will come back to bite you.

I can't say for Oz but US immigration papers do require any and all names used to be listed. You can explain the reasons for change if you so feel but they must be listed. Failure to do this is what could come back to "bite" IMHO.

[dr_Pat_Pong]

Name change: Her name is the name on her official papers, not some former name. Unless there is some criminal investigation, her old name is of no matter. Never tell people more than they need to know - it will come back to bite you.

I can't say for Oz but US immigration papers do require any and all names used to be listed. You can explain the reasons for change if you so feel but they must be listed. Failure to do this is what could come back to "bite" IMHO.

and bite time is possibly about the time when the police clearance is sought from the Royal Thai Police Department

[Pink Mist]

Name change: Her name is the name on her official papers, not some former name. Unless there is some criminal investigation, her old name is of no matter. Never tell people more than they need to know - it will come back to bite you.

I can't say for Oz but US immigration papers do require any and all names used to be listed. You can explain the reasons for change if you so feel but they must be listed. Failure to do this is what could come back to "bite" IMHO.

It's the same on the Aussie applications too, there is a section where you must fill in other names you have been known by. This would apply to Maiden names, previous married names etc.

I cant remember if we supplied a translated birth registration, from memory I think we did any way it will be on the checklist on the spouse visa migration book.

If you dont disclose something like a name change and do get found out then you really would be pushing sh1t up hill to get a visa.

The authorities will be checking more closely now I think, after the embarrassment of that froggy musso that got just caught in Sydney.

[350torana]

G'day

Thanks for all the advice, muchly appreciated . I have read on numerous websites, first hand advice, that a spouse visa can take up to 8 months to process. Then I read that a visitor's visa will not be granted during this time. Hmm,i could get up on my high horse , in fact I will . We are a genuine family, father, mother and baby. I have to go back to Tassie for commitments in the next few weeks . The immigration policies of my country really do seem like they do not care about the family unit. Hmm, what about little Johnny , Janet and their brood , always spouting thier family chrisitan values. Sorry, gave fair warning about the high horse thing .

Oh, my wifes new passport is in a different name from the one she used to study in Australia. Guess it is just best to be honest and lay all the cards on the table

cheers

ps no worries, was expecting the two headed jokes , better that than incest ones

[Pink Mist]

G'day

Thanks for all the advice, muchly appreciated . I have read on numerous websites, first hand advice, that a spouse visa can take up to 8 months to process. Then I read that a visitor's visa will not be granted during this time. Hmm,i could get up on my high horse , in fact I will . We are a genuine family, father, mother and baby. I have to go back to Tassie for commitments in the next few weeks . The immigration policies of my country really do seem like they do not care about the family unit. Hmm, what about little Johnny , Janet and their brood , always spouting thier family chrisitan values. Sorry, gave fair warning about the high horse thing .

Oh, my wifes new passport is in a different name from the one she used to study in Australia. Guess it is just best to be honest and lay all the cards on the table

cheers

ps no worries, was expecting the two headed jokes , better that than incest ones

Was heads for two heads and tales for incest, cme up heads, forgive the pun.

That poster genuine did say he got his in 5 weeks and the initial interview on day of application.

We applied in november and interview was feb, and the processing time quoted at 9 months,so things must have changed considerably.

Go and ask, or better still get your sh1t together and apply straight away.

Yes little jonnie lives in a different world to the rest of us, just remember that come election time.

[dr_Pat_Pong]

G'day

Thanks for all the advice, muchly appreciated . I have read on numerous websites, first hand advice, that a spouse visa can take up to 8 months to process. Then I read that a visitor's visa will not be granted during this time. Hmm,i could get up on my high horse , in fact I will . We are a genuine family, father, mother and baby. I have to go back to Tassie for commitments in the next few weeks . The immigration policies of my country really do seem like they do not care about the family unit. Hmm, what about little Johnny , Janet and their brood , always spouting thier family chrisitan values. Sorry, gave fair warning about the high horse thing .

Oh, my wifes new passport is in a different name from the one she used to study in Australia. Guess it is just best to be honest and lay all the cards on the table

cheers

ps no worries, was expecting the two headed jokes , better that than incest ones

Isn't the definition of a Tasmanian virgin, a girl that can outrun her father and her brothers ?

[Pink Mist]

G'day

  Thanks for all the  advice, muchly  appreciated . I  have  read  on  numerous  websites, first  hand  advice, that a  spouse  visa  can take  up to 8  months  to process. Then I  read that  a  visitor's  visa  will not  be  granted  during  this  time. Hmm,i could  get  up on  my  high horse , in  fact I will . We are a  genuine  family, father, mother and  baby. I  have to go back to Tassie  for  commitments in the  next  few  weeks . The  immigration  policies  of  my  country  really  do seem  like they  do not  care  about the  family  unit. Hmm, what  about  little Johnny , Janet  and  their  brood , always  spouting  thier family chrisitan values. Sorry, gave  fair  warning  about  the  high horse  thing .

  Oh, my  wifes  new  passport  is  in a  different  name from the  one  she  used  to study  in Australia. Guess  it is just  best to be  honest and  lay all the  cards  on the  table

cheers

    ps  no worries, was  expecting the  two headed  jokes , better  that  than incest  ones

Isn't the definition of a Tasmanian virgin, a girl that can outrun her father and her brothers ?

IT had to happen 350 and had a feeling the Doc would Manage to get it in, as long as the brothers don't.

[dr_Pat_Pong]

G'day

  Thanks for all the  advice, muchly  appreciated . I  have  read  on  numerous  websites, first  hand  advice, that a  spouse  visa  can take  up to 8  months  to process. Then I  read that  a  visitor's  visa  will not  be  granted  during  this  time. Hmm,i could  get  up on  my  high horse , in  fact I will . We are a  genuine  family, father, mother and  baby. I  have to go back to Tassie  for  commitments in the  next  few  weeks . The  immigration  policies  of  my  country  really  do seem  like they  do not  care  about the  family  unit. Hmm, what  about  little Johnny , Janet  and  their  brood , always  spouting  thier family chrisitan values. Sorry, gave  fair  warning  about  the  high horse  thing .

  Oh, my  wifes  new  passport  is  in a  different  name from the  one  she  used  to study  in Australia. Guess  it is just  best to be  honest and  lay all the  cards  on the  table

cheers

    ps  no worries, was  expecting the  two headed  jokes , better  that  than incest  ones

Isn't the definition of a Tasmanian virgin, a girl that can outrun her father and her brothers ?

IT had to happen 350 and had a feeling the Doc would Manage to get it in, as long as the brothers don't.

You have fallen in love with the new buttonless ###### Bronco.

[Pink Mist]

G'day

  Thanks for all the  advice, muchly  appreciated . I  have  read  on  numerous  websites, first  hand  advice, that a  spouse  visa  can take  up to 8  months  to process. Then I  read that  a  visitor's  visa  will not  be  granted  during  this  time. Hmm,i could  get  up on  my  high horse , in  fact I will . We are a  genuine  family, father, mother and  baby. I  have to go back to Tassie  for  commitments in the  next  few  weeks . The  immigration  policies  of  my  country  really  do seem  like they  do not  care  about the  family  unit. Hmm, what  about  little Johnny , Janet  and  their  brood , always  spouting  thier family chrisitan values. Sorry, gave  fair  warning  about  the  high horse  thing .

  Oh, my  wifes  new  passport  is  in a  different  name from the  one  she  used  to study  in Australia. Guess  it is just  best to be  honest and  lay all the  cards  on the  table

cheers

    ps  no worries, was  expecting the  two headed  jokes , better  that  than incest  ones

Isn't the definition of a Tasmanian virgin, a girl that can outrun her father and her brothers ?

IT had to happen 350 and had a feeling the Doc would Manage to get it in, as long as the brothers don't.

You have fallen in love with the new buttonless ###### Bronco.

I heard he was gonna appeal the button loss, but the admins reckon he hasn't got a leg to stand on

[dr_Pat_Pong]

Legless Bronco. He's legless.

[Pink Mist]

Legless Bronco. He's legless.

was saving that one doc

[350torana]

U guys from that big island to the north are such cards, should get together and write yourself a joke book (101 Really Side-Spiltting Jokes from the Dr and Bronco) Seriously though , i am a native of Hobart(slowbart) . The inbred/duelling banjos thing happens up Launceston, Devonport ways

[camel_jockey]

350,

I'm in much the same boat as you,not a convict one though, my fiance has changed her name too, but she has a certificate that says as much so see if your wife has one and get it translated, add that to your application.Actually here's a list of the documents we are going to supply regarding my fiance, all translated into English

1,birth cert.

2,name change cert.

3,passport, old and new.

4,university certs,(for major in english and nursing)

5,history of our relationship, with pics when on hols etc

6,wedding invitation,we are having a ceremony in July in BKK but will not registar it there

From me they will be getting much the same but also a stat dec from my sister, and 2 of my mates that now my fiance, also airline tickets/boarding passes showing we've been on flights together.

If your parents are happy to support you both, get them to write stat decs saying so,I'm sure they won't mind, remember its upto you to prove to them that you are married etc.

[Pink Mist]

U guys from that big island to the north are such cards, should get together and write yourself a joke book (101 Really Side-Spiltting Jokes from the Dr and Bronco) Seriously though , i am a native of Hobart(slowbart) . The inbred/duelling banjos thing happens up Launceston, Devonport ways

Maybe we should Doc but not about two heads, thats been relatively done to death.

Sorry 350 but you know how us mainlanders gotta have a crack at you kiwis.

[mingalababya]

  G'day

    My first  question  is. We  have  an 8  month old  daughter, will this  speed  things/make  things  easier  when applying? I  have  already  got  her  Australian citizen certificate  by  descent, her  passport is  still being  processed. Have  to say they  are  pretty  tight arse  about  finding wtnesses  to gaurantee  her  photo. Any  idea  how  hard it  is to find  Thai nationals  who are  Dr's, lawyers , accountants ect...who ARE  NOT  FAMILY  MEMBERS.?? Either  this or get  an aussie  passport  holder to sign (who has  known her  since  birth).

Hi there,

I went through this whole process just recently. I'm married to a Myanmar (Burmese) national and we have a son from this relationship. Our son was granted his Australian Citizenship By Descent in January of this year, and his Ozzie passport was issued at the Australian Embassy in Yangon (Rangoon) in early February.

You're right about how difficult it is to find a guarantor to sign the photograph. There are very few Ozzie expats in Myanmar (we don't even know one) so the Embassy staff suggested that we get the Myanmar doctor who delivered our son to be his guarantor. This done, the passport was issued in about 10 working days, which is really fast when you consider that everything else in Burma runs at a pregnant snail's pace.

Good luck with your daughter's passport application... it shouldn't be any problems so long as the passport application form is filled in correctly and the photograph is of the required size (I know how hard it is to photograph infants and toddlers.. my son was 14 months when he got his passport photo done .... he looked at everything in the photo studio, but the camera! ). The Aust Embassy officials in Rangoon we dealt with (including the locally employed staff) were fabulous ... If the same goes for the staff at the Embassy in Bangkok, then you won't have any problems.

Cheers!