Lumbini Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Dire farang health warnings : In recent years, the costs of premier inpatient care in Thailand have risen substantially and now equate with the charges in European hospitals. http://pattayatoday.net/news/latest-edition/dire-farang-health-warnings/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Yeah good warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andre47 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 In many cases the costs for health treatment in private hospitals in in Thailand more expensive than in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinisaan Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 There's a construction worker in Ubon who had an accident where he had a hole in his skull. The lack of an adequate insrance made it happen that he's got an implant from a dog's skull. BTW, the guy's Thai. The guy's still working as a construction worker and one part of his skull is still open, only covered with skin, transplanted from his backside. He didn't start to bark yet. Asking a doctor at Bangkok Pattaya hospital how much the bill for an operation would be, might empty your wallet already. I'm doing some volunteer work for an organization, helping German guys in emergency situations and it's a sad fact that mostly older people are without any insurance. Then "using Viagra" and the heart attack is only a matter of time. I'm not allowed to talk about specific cases, but believe me there're a lot of people without an insurance around. I really don't understand foreign holiday makers who don't buy a policy good for the period of their holiday in Thailand. And that has nothing to do with age. It's common sense, a coconut could do the job. Watch out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaeJoMTB Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Most of us have free health care in Europe. So Thailand has always been more expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Another reason for expats to consider nations where they can buy into the national health systems. I think Ecuador still does. The issue with private insurance here is about preexisting conditions exclusions including wildly creative ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loppylugs1 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Criticisms against hospital here and run the risk of being banned from this site or criminal action,ridiculous,just like the jet ski scum. Like Topsy,it just grows and grows insurance premium and hospital care,and why should you share a insurance platform with a smoker/heavy boozer,they are more like to be wanting servicing Easy way round it India world class in every respect,cheap too. fly via KL instead of Bombay third off the price ,sometimes under a £100 return I'm off next few weeks for cancer scans etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Criticisms against hospital here and run the risk of being banned from this site or criminal action,ridiculous,just like the jet ski scum. Like Topsy,it just grows and grows insurance premium and hospital care,and why should you share a insurance platform with a smoker/heavy boozer,they are more like to be wanting servicing Easy way round it India world class in every respect,cheap too. fly via KL instead of Bombay third off the price ,sometimes under a £100 return I'm off next few weeks for cancer scans etc etc Nothing is easy if you have a local emergency. Another one of the multiple reasons I am considering leaving Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loppylugs1 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Criticisms against hospital here and run the risk of being banned from this site or criminal action,ridiculous,just like the jet ski scum. Like Topsy,it just grows and grows insurance premium and hospital care,and why should you share a insurance platform with a smoker/heavy boozer,they are more like to be wanting servicing Easy way round it India world class in every respect,cheap too. fly via KL instead of Bombay third off the price ,sometimes under a £100 return I'm off next few weeks for cancer scans etc etc Nothing is easy if you have a local emergency. Another one of the multiple reasons I am considering leaving Thailand. Im with you there,been putting this off for years,3 dogs and the cat are coming along ,Thai GF can stay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickylies Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Most of us have free health care in Europe. So Thailand has always been more expensive. Especially when they try to sell u Scandinavian imported pills instead of Thai made which I of course refused 2000thb versus 100thb)... Of course I was called keeneeow when asking for and updated bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickylies Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Criticisms against hospital here and run the risk of being banned from this site or criminal action,ridiculous,just like the jet ski scum. Like Topsy,it just grows and grows insurance premium and hospital care,and why should you share a insurance platform with a smoker/heavy boozer,they are more like to be wanting servicing Easy way round it India world class in every respect,cheap too. fly via KL instead of Bombay third off the price ,sometimes under a £100 return I'm off next few weeks for cancer scans etc etc Nothing is easy if you have a local emergency. Another one of the multiple reasons I am considering leaving Thailand. Im with you there,been putting this off for years,3 dogs and the cat are coming along,Thai GF can stay I stayed clear from the gfs and cats. The dogs will survive without me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Criticisms against hospital here and run the risk of being banned from this site or criminal action,ridiculous,just like the jet ski scum. Like Topsy,it just grows and grows insurance premium and hospital care,and why should you share a insurance platform with a smoker/heavy boozer,they are more like to be wanting servicing Easy way round it India world class in every respect,cheap too. fly via KL instead of Bombay third off the price ,sometimes under a £100 return I'm off next few weeks for cancer scans etc etc Nothing is easy if you have a local emergency. Another one of the multiple reasons I am considering leaving Thailand. Im with you there,been putting this off for years,3 dogs and the cat are coming along,Thai GF can stay I stayed clear from the gfs and cats. The dogs will survive without me... You can of course do some research and identify a better Thai government hospital nearby and start using it and get known. Many have quite good services and many have very up to date equipment and specialists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumbini Posted January 18, 2016 Author Share Posted January 18, 2016 The medical help here for me has been 2nd to none and a real game changer . The cost in the US became ridicules and I am so grateful for this country . I posted this thread with the content about cost as it seemed to be missing whole story . I know Bumangrad has become more expensive over last few years but even this place and most other hospitals are well below what US medical services are . Possibly this article was the concern that farung's come unprepared and Thailand can not be responsible for giving free service to foreigners when it's already challenging to take care of their existing citizens . On another note when I think back of how much time the doctor had to spend with me in the US on an average visit and the amount of time I am giving here it is unbelievable the difference ( and how long in US I had to wait to even get appointment with top Dr. , here I can sometimes see doctor I want with no notice and just a walk in and if not the wait is never more than a few days or a week ) again so grateful for what's available here . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andre47 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 The medical help here for me has been 2nd to none and a real game changer . The cost in the US became ridicules and I am so grateful for this country . I posted this thread with the content about cost as it seemed to be missing whole story . I know Bumangrad has become more expensive over last few years but even this place and most other hospitals are well below what US medical services are . Possibly this article was the concern that farung's come unprepared and Thailand can not be responsible for giving free service to foreigners when it's already challenging to take care of their existing citizens . On another note when I think back of how much time the doctor had to spend with me in the US on an average visit and the amount of time I am giving here it is unbelievable the difference ( and how long in US I had to wait to even get appointment with top Dr. , here I can sometimes see doctor I want with no notice and just a walk in and if not the wait is never more than a few days or a week ) again so grateful for what's available here . The US health system is abnormal expensive and no benchmark for the rest of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumbini Posted January 18, 2016 Author Share Posted January 18, 2016 I guess it's because the richest nation is the sickest [emoji780] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxninja Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Self medicate, live a healthy life and you wont need tablets for most western diseases, if you get a major illness just fly home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 I guess it's because the richest nation is the sickest [emoji780] Show me the money honey not the mountains of debt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Self medicate, live a healthy life and you wont need tablets for most western diseases, if you get a major illness just fly home. Sure but sooner or later most people's luck runs out. Accidents and stuff, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolley Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 It doesn't matter how healthy you think you are anything can happen to anyone anytime. If you cant get medical insurance then you are probably better off not living in Thailand. This is especially the case as you get older 70 and up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchisaan Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Self medicate, live a healthy life and you wont need tablets for most western diseases, if you get a major illness just fly home.And what happens, when the airline don't let you fly because you are to sick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loppylugs1 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Self medicate, live a healthy life and you wont need tablets for most western diseases, if you get a major illness just fly home.And what happens, when the airline don't let you fly because you are to sick? Some airlines will,try Air India dead, dying and whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soinowinbkk Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I'd find it very helpful here to have people suggest or inform about Thai hospitals that they have had good results from. I have done some care, for instance, at Bangkok's Thai Army Hospital at Victory Monument: Parammongutkloa Hospital. For example, I had a sleep study performed (over night) for 8,000 baht, which was priced at Bumrungrad and BNH at 35,000 and 30,000 baht, respectively. English language is a challenge for most in these hospitals but not a complete barrier. Any other have experiences? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgjackson69 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Most of us have free health care in Europe. So Thailand has always been more expensive. Nothing from government is "free" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I guess it's because the richest nation is the sickest [emoji780] Your guess is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxninja Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Self medicate, live a healthy life and you wont need tablets for most western diseases, if you get a major illness just fly home.And what happens, when the airline don't let you fly because you are to sick? Well that's simple you either recover or die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imjmn Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 A bit dated but a friend had aortic valve replacement here for a cost of about $18,500. Cost in the USA would have been in excess of $150,000. Same valve, same operating theater equipment etc - he had a US trained Thai doctor who was as conservative as possible. No fuss - no drama - ICU then a private room for about 10 days then off to the house. He went back to the USA after recovery and the US doc's told him they would have done the same just for a bunch more money. Dental cleaning at Bangkok Pattaya - 1040 Baht. Meds here are substantially less than in the USA. Yes cost have increased. You have to be prepared. When I go to the USA my wife and I purchase a BUPA package for emergency care. It just makes sense to be sure that you are protected as a home country social scheme may not cover you. MJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgjackson69 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 A bit dated but a friend had aortic valve replacement here for a cost of about $18,500. Cost in the USA would have been in excess of $150,000. Same valve, same operating theater equipment etc - he had a US trained Thai doctor who was as conservative as possible. No fuss - no drama - ICU then a private room for about 10 days then off to the house. He went back to the USA after recovery and the US doc's told him they would have done the same just for a bunch more money. Dental cleaning at Bangkok Pattaya - 1040 Baht. Meds here are substantially less than in the USA. Yes cost have increased. You have to be prepared. When I go to the USA my wife and I purchase a BUPA package for emergency care. It just makes sense to be sure that you are protected as a home country social scheme may not cover you. MJ I buy my meds here rather than in USA, even though my general practitioner is there. If I buy in USA through my prescription plan and copay, or just buy over the counter here and pay myself, the cost is about the same on a monthly basis. But here I can buy in the quantity I want. Typically that is 6 months supply. When I see my doctor for the yearly check he asks if I need a prescription or will I buy in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Self medicate, live a healthy life and you wont need tablets for most western diseases, if you get a major illness just fly home.And what happens, when the airline don't let you fly because you are to sick? Well that's simple you either recover or die. In other words, let's face it, more likely to die here of stuff that wouldn't kill you in the west. Not that the west is perfect either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipperylobster Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 There's a construction worker in Ubon who had an accident where he had a hole in his skull. The lack of an adequate insrance made it happen that he's got an implant from a dog's skull. BTW, the guy's Thai. The guy's still working as a construction worker and one part of his skull is still open, only covered with skin, transplanted from his backside. He didn't start to bark yet. Asking a doctor at Bangkok Pattaya hospital how much the bill for an operation would be, might empty your wallet already. I'm doing some volunteer work for an organization, helping German guys in emergency situations and it's a sad fact that mostly older people are without any insurance. Then "using Viagra" and the heart attack is only a matter of time. I'm not allowed to talk about specific cases, but believe me there're a lot of people without an insurance around. I really don't understand foreign holiday makers who don't buy a policy good for the period of their holiday in Thailand. And that has nothing to do with age. It's common sense, a coconut could do the job. Watch out. Using doggie parts to repair human bones, tissues and organs? Doesn't that explain why so many soi dogs are out on the street? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loppylugs1 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 A bit dated but a friend had aortic valve replacement here for a cost of about $18,500. Cost in the USA would have been in excess of $150,000. Same valve, same operating theater equipment etc - he had a US trained Thai doctor who was as conservative as possible. No fuss - no drama - ICU then a private room for about 10 days then off to the house. He went back to the USA after recovery and the US doc's told him they would have done the same just for a bunch more money. Dental cleaning at Bangkok Pattaya - 1040 Baht. Meds here are substantially less than in the USA. Yes cost have increased. You have to be prepared. When I go to the USA my wife and I purchase a BUPA package for emergency care. It just makes sense to be sure that you are protected as a home country social scheme may not cover you. MJ . Heart Valve Replacement SurgeryHeart Valve Replacement Surgery used to repair or replace diseased heart valves. B... Dr. Purshotam is a very renowned cardiologist worldwide and also is the pioneer of ... Metro Hospitals & Heart InstituteDr.Purshotam Lal the package Cost of Aortic valve Replacement OR Mitral Valve Replacement (AVR/MVR) is USD 7600 which is most eco... .Will be 10 to 20% cheaper on west coast I guess dental cleaning perhaps $5 USA branded meds 2000 baht a month s supply here 100 baht there same-same Do not need medical insurance in Thailand,just some help to get to plane,2 hours away the finest and cheapest medical care in the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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