Where can I do some condo shopping?

[LennyW]

I'll bet Hal65's inbox is jam packed with desperados trying to offload!

[i claudius]

My advice,after 23 years,don't listen to half the rubbish posted on here,

Does that include your advice?

I dont give advice , i just comment .

[roquefort]

I have a condo for sale in The Vision on Pratumnak Hill. Top of the range project by Matrix, one of the leading developers in Pattaya.

Newly completed,ready to move in - PM me if you'd like to view.

Is that the building where they had to fill the pool with concrete because the building was sliding into it?

I doubt it........as the pool is on the 19th floor. You must be thinking of somewhere else.

[TheCruncher]

I have a condo for sale in The Vision on Pratumnak Hill. Top of the range project by Matrix, one of the leading developers in Pattaya.

Newly completed,ready to move in - PM me if you'd like to view.

Is that the building where they had to fill the pool with concrete because the building was sliding into it?

I doubt it........as the pool is on the 19th floor. You must be thinking of somewhere else.

Yes probably, I can't recall the name of the building though it is in a thread somewhere on this forum, but anyway I'm talking about a building from what you call the LEADING developers in Pattaya.

[fosseway]

ive got 5 condos in pattaya - all still under construction

Palm Wongamat x 2

Maldives x 1

Grand Carribean x 2

Nothing wrong with investing in property especially nice places you can stay in yourself if not renting out. Buy off plan for better returns...

Granted now there is a bit of a recession due to the Russians currency depreciation. so plenty bargains...

As far as prices go Patts is much cheaper than BKK and better quality builds as most are designed by and for European market.

Will you get your 10% return per year? possibly but thats depends...

I must say you are a very brave investor to risk buying off plan here, there is usually no protection against the developer fulfilling the terms of the contract, this can only be guaranteed by way of an escrow account, this is not common practice here as far as I am aware.

[ptoff]

New & Poplar Condo in Pattaya Sea Zen http://www.pattayacondoshop.com/

[i claudius]

Whats the appeal of buying in a land where prostitutes are the attraction.

I dont get it...................and i just bought a condo-just not in pattaya!

Well now we know why you came , but as for most of us they are not the attraction , but then most of us are married with families .

[Rimmer]

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[newnative]

Who intentionally raises young kids in Pattaya? Lots of people. It seems too many TV posters seem to think that everyone is here in Pattaya to park themselves on a bar stool every evening, drink themselves silly, and maybe bring a working girl home. Yes, some are doing that but it's not a large percentage of the overall population--it's just very visible on certain streets, which can easily be avoided. The number of Western men riding a bar stool nightly is probably not growing, or at least not growing as fast as other groups. So, some of the bars maybe seem not quite as lively and you get the ridiculous 'Pattaya is Dead' thread when it has never been more alive, growing, and evolving. You're seeing more tourists arrive as families--and not just in tour groups. Chinese and Russians but others, as well.. Lots more Bangkok people are coming to their Pattaya condos on weekends with their families and friends--expect to see that even more when The Base opens as it was marketed to BKK yuppies. And there's always been the maybe invisible to some but still very much there expat families. Of course, there will likely always be an adult entertainment component to Pattaya, just as there will always be a gambling component to Las Vegas, and for both cities they are important. But, also for both cities, you can raise young kids and not set foot in a casino or an adult bar. Much as some of you like to think that Pattaya is all just about you, sadly, it is not.

[mcfish]

Move to Pattaya and rent for a while.

Now spend a lot of time at bars and you will have many farang approach you in the bar absolutely desperate to get out of their property.

Many people come here with dreams and rose colour glasses. Others having never been laid in their home country become addicted to the sex on tap. Anyway they mostly end up broke and desperately need to sell their property so they can continue living the dream.

As someone who worked for a real estate investment company in the US we would call this a high-distress market. You can make good money when you buy (from the equity cushion of buying low). This also increases the rent yield and buffers against a flat market.

I've been here for 6 months BTW.

What total garbage. Never met anyone flogging a condo in a bar and you know you made that up.. Some freaks in this forum..

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[Hal65]

If you talk to enough people you will hear stories. More efficient would be to do monthly mailings or flyer drops.

[Nomyai]

Who intentionally raises young kids in Pattaya? Lots of people. It seems too many TV posters seem to think that everyone is here in Pattaya to park themselves on a bar stool every evening, drink themselves silly, and maybe bring a working girl home. Yes, some are doing that but it's not a large percentage of the overall population--it's just very visible on certain streets, which can easily be avoided. The number of Western men riding a bar stool nightly is probably not growing, or at least not growing as fast as other groups. So, some of the bars maybe seem not quite as lively and you get the ridiculous 'Pattaya is Dead' thread when it has never been more alive, growing, and evolving. You're seeing more tourists arrive as families--and not just in tour groups. Chinese and Russians but others, as well.. Lots more Bangkok people are coming to their Pattaya condos on weekends with their families and friends--expect to see that even more when The Base opens as it was marketed to BKK yuppies. And there's always been the maybe invisible to some but still very much there expat families. Of course, there will likely always be an adult entertainment component to Pattaya, just as there will always be a gambling component to Las Vegas, and for both cities they are important. But, also for both cities, you can raise young kids and not set foot in a casino or an adult bar. Much as some of you like to think that Pattaya is all just about you, sadly, it is not.

Bargirls and Pattaya is not equivalent to gambling and las vegas.

ILL say it -it isnt wise to raise kids in vegas either. The atmosphere is not conducive to raising good kids.

[newnative]

Guess you haven't been to Vegas in the past decade or two. Or three. But, never mind that, the point is that most cities will have places that you may want to avoid with your children when they are young. That doesn't mean you can't raise children in them. You just know where those places are and you don't go there with your kids. Not brain surgery. Some parents raise their kids well, some raise them poorly, but I'd wager ( ) it has little to do with what city or town they are living in.

[craigt3365]

The outskirts of Pattaya are fine for raising children. Most of my friends with kids rarely make it into central Pattaya, except on shopping trips to Central Festival, etc.

There are many wonderful areas. Same with Vegas. A fantastic city with great infrastructure. Lived there off and on since 1975.

[Hal65]

I think Pattaya would be a great place to raise a boy. If he does good in school, a few bucks spent and the little lad feels like a man before he can legally drink

[john1000]

IMO Many ( not necessarily the op ) are in love with the idea of buying a condo. Certainly many are happy with their purchase and those with no financial restraints will have less stress.

I think the advice about renting, and really getting a feel for where you feel most comfortable is important. Then start making silly offers. They can only say no, and you may be pleasantly surprised.

[JSixpack]

Can you imagine buying a condo in Patterz and get a Sharky type as neighbour and all his little angels moaning and groaning every night?

And you can't move....

What a sad existence would that be....

You dunno. The Sharky type might invite you join in, generous soul. Could be the greatest fun in your life. Moreover he might get you into body building and turn you into a badass rather than the Nervous Nellie you seem. No more getting sand kicked into your face by beach bullies! What's not to like?

Good example of the Just In Case Fallacy often promulgated on the forum by scaremongers.

Next.

[Nomyai]

Guess you haven't been to Vegas in the past decade or two. Or three. But, never mind that, the point is that most cities will have places that you may want to avoid with your children when they are young. That doesn't mean you can't raise children in them. You just know where those places are and you don't go there with your kids. Not brain surgery. Some parents raise their kids well, some raise them poorly, but I'd wager ( ) it has little to do with what city or town they are living in.

You are so wrong! Just because you and yr kids dont go where bargirls go doesnt mean yr kids wont learn. They learn by osmosis. His friend might have a sUpeRstaR sister......................lol. Yr cleaning lady might have a budding superSTAR. it does make a difference.

RE VEGAS...im there right now. Not a place for kids! Show me a gambling town ill show you adults who are a bad influence(more than a non-gambling town). Degenerates are attracted to places like Pattaya and vegas........think people think!

[JSixpack]

Guess you haven't been to Vegas in the past decade or two. Or three. But, never mind that, the point is that most cities will have places that you may want to avoid with your children when they are young. That doesn't mean you can't raise children in them. You just know where those places are and you don't go there with your kids. Not brain surgery. Some parents raise their kids well, some raise them poorly, but I'd wager ( ) it has little to do with what city or town they are living in.

You are so wrong! Just because you and yr kids dont go where bargirls go doesnt mean yr kids wont learn. They learn by osmosis. His friend might have a sUpeRstaR sister......................lol. Yr cleaning lady might have a budding superSTAR. it does make a difference.

RE VEGAS...im there right now. Not a place for kids! Show me a gambling town ill show you adults who are a bad influence(more than a non-gambling town). Degenerates are attracted to places like Pattaya and vegas........think people think!

You've been given evidence & common sense by craigt3365 and newnative. And they are exactly right. A kid can certainly have a great time & turn out quite well from Pattaya. And a great many have. The topic has been discussed multiple times on the forum already.

Obviously you have some agenda and refuse to think rationally on the matter. So you've just moved into the trolling area. Suggest you agree to disagree and buzz off from the thread.

[TheCruncher]

Guess you haven't been to Vegas in the past decade or two. Or three. But, never mind that, the point is that most cities will have places that you may want to avoid with your children when they are young. That doesn't mean you can't raise children in them. You just know where those places are and you don't go there with your kids. Not brain surgery. Some parents raise their kids well, some raise them poorly, but I'd wager ( ) it has little to do with what city or town they are living in.

You are so wrong! Just because you and yr kids dont go where bargirls go doesnt mean yr kids wont learn. They learn by osmosis. His friend might have a sUpeRstaR sister......................lol. Yr cleaning lady might have a budding superSTAR. it does make a difference.

RE VEGAS...im there right now. Not a place for kids! Show me a gambling town ill show you adults who are a bad influence(more than a non-gambling town). Degenerates are attracted to places like Pattaya and vegas........think people think!

You've been given evidence & common sense by craigt3365 and newnative. And they are exactly right. A kid can certainly have a great time & turn out quite well from Pattaya. And a great many have. The topic has been discussed multiple times on the forum already.

Obviously you have some agenda and refuse to think rationally on the matter. So you've just moved into the trolling area. Suggest you agree to disagree and buzz off from the thread.

I know you're always right, but did you even notice that the palces Craig talked about aren't called Pattaya?

Huayai, Nong Hin, Chaiyapruek , and al those other places East of Sukhumvit are not part of Pattaya,

[JSixpack]

Guess you haven't been to Vegas in the past decade or two. Or three. But, never mind that, the point is that most cities will have places that you may want to avoid with your children when they are young. That doesn't mean you can't raise children in them. You just know where those places are and you don't go there with your kids. Not brain surgery. Some parents raise their kids well, some raise them poorly, but I'd wager ( ) it has little to do with what city or town they are living in.

You are so wrong! Just because you and yr kids dont go where bargirls go doesnt mean yr kids wont learn. They learn by osmosis. His friend might have a sUpeRstaR sister......................lol. Yr cleaning lady might have a budding superSTAR. it does make a difference.

RE VEGAS...im there right now. Not a place for kids! Show me a gambling town ill show you adults who are a bad influence(more than a non-gambling town). Degenerates are attracted to places like Pattaya and vegas........think people think!

You've been given evidence & common sense by craigt3365 and newnative. And they are exactly right. A kid can certainly have a great time & turn out quite well from Pattaya. And a great many have. The topic has been discussed multiple times on the forum already.

Obviously you have some agenda and refuse to think rationally on the matter. So you've just moved into the trolling area. Suggest you agree to disagree and buzz off from the thread.

I know you're always right, but did you even notice that the palces Craig talked about aren't called Pattaya?

Huayai, Nong Hin, Chaiyapruek , and al those other places East of Sukhumvit are not part of Pattaya,

I always assume (wrongly, sometimes) that people do have some shred of common sense. In any country, obviously, kids are usually better off away from the city center with the riffraff running around and in the affordable burbs w/ true neighborhoods, more space, and some nature, which may or may not be formally incorporated into the city. Raise a kid in the middle of the casino district, maybe w/ one downstairs to pass thru on the way to the schoolbus? Raise your kid up in a room above a brothel in Soi 6? Well, no. You see, nobody is talking about such a case, and to imply that they are is simply to be willfully obtuse (as you tend to be, loving to argue and nitpick I guess).

I do know of kids doing well living in larger condos, closer to the city, and considered part of Pattaya. You can see the Regents van and others picking them up and dropping them off daily. I know of Thai kids raised in South Pattaya near the market, not far from Walking Street, who did well. Parents owned businesses and sent them to private schools. Parents and their raisin' make the most important difference in whether kids can resist bad influences--which you can never get away from.

So we need to point out that a kid raised outside of Pattaya or Las Vegas is by no means guaranteed to grow up exemplary and could even be worse than if he had grown up on Soi 6. Friend of mine, professional, totally stable and sane, has a couple of kids raised middle class in a small conservative town in the USA--in a dry county of all place--and OMG they are horrible. Total failures. Feel sorry for him.

But then I know of a kid from an unstable home w/ two alcoholic parents fighting and raising hell all the time, poor, working class, who became a star football player in HS then went on to do well at a respected engineering school, got a fantastic job, married a female plastic surgeon and has kids of his own now. Totally amazing.

There aren't going to be any stats here or hard & fast rules like Nomyai wants or you may want. We can waste time swappin' stories and flappin' gums all day. You're both entitled your opinions: enjoy them, do things your way, nobody cares in the slightest.

[Nomyai]

You've been given evidence & common sense by craigt3365 and newnative. And they are exactly right. A kid can certainly have a great time & turn out quite well from Pattaya. And a great many have. The topic has been discussed multiple times on the forum already.

Obviously you have some agenda and refuse to think rationally on the matter. So you've just moved into the trolling area. Suggest you agree to disagree and buzz off from the thread.

I know you're always right, but did you even notice that the palces Craig talked about aren't called Pattaya?

Huayai, Nong Hin, Chaiyapruek , and al those other places East of Sukhumvit are not part of Pattaya,

I always assume (wrongly, sometimes) that people do have some shred of common sense. In any country, obviously, kids are usually better off away from the city center with the riffraff running around and in the affordable burbs w/ true neighborhoods, more space, and some nature, which may or may not be formally incorporated into the city. Raise a kid in the middle of the casino district, maybe w/ one downstairs to pass thru on the way to the schoolbus? Raise your kid up in a room above a brothel in Soi 6? Well, no. You see, nobody is talking about such a case, and to imply that they are is simply to be willfully obtuse (as you tend to be, loving to argue and nitpick I guess).

I do know of kids doing well living in larger condos, closer to the city, and considered part of Pattaya. You can see the Regents van and others picking them up and dropping them off daily. I know of Thai kids raised in South Pattaya near the market, not far from Walking Street, who did well. Parents owned businesses and sent them to private schools. Parents and their raisin' make the most important difference in whether kids can resist bad influences--which you can never get away from.

So we need to point out that a kid raised outside of Pattaya or Las Vegas is by no means guaranteed to grow up exemplary and could even be worse than if he had grown up on Soi 6. Friend of mine, professional, totally stable and sane, has a couple of kids raised middle class in a small conservative town in the USA--in a dry county of all place--and OMG they are horrible. Total failures. Feel sorry for him.

But then I know of a kid from an unstable home w/ two alcoholic parents fighting and raising hell all the time, poor, working class, who became a star football player in HS then went on to do well at a respected engineering school, got a fantastic job, married a female plastic surgeon and has kids of his own now. Totally amazing.

There aren't going to be any stats here or hard & fast rules like Nomyai wants or you may want. We can waste time swappin' stories and flappin' gums all day. You're both entitled your opinions: enjoy them, do things your way, nobody cares in the slightest.

rules always have exceptions.

[Rimmer]

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Where can I do some condo shopping?

[Seizetheday]

For what it's worth, there are starting to be big discounts on offer for houses that are in some of the nicer villages on the darkside, houses in Siam Royal View and Phu Tara, at prices advertised well below levels seen before.

Expect condos to follow, in the next 18 months it's going to be carnage in the condo market with all the new supply about to hit the market.

[newnative]

I think if there is 'condo carnage' it will be in over-built areas, poor locations, and condos with no seaviews.

[Seizetheday]

I think if there is 'condo carnage' it will be in over-built areas, poor locations, and condos with no seaviews.

I'd agree 100% with you.

[mcfish]

For what it's worth, there are starting to be big discounts on offer for houses that are in some of the nicer villages on the darkside, houses in Siam Royal View and Phu Tara, at prices advertised well below levels seen before.

Expect condos to follow, in the next 18 months it's going to be carnage in the condo market with all the new supply about to hit the market.

You have a link or can you post a Camera pic of what you are seeing?

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[Nomyai]

I think if there is 'condo carnage' it will be in over-built areas, poor locations, and condos with no seaviews.

I'd agree 100% with you.

nothing survives CARNAGE. All will go down-some will go down less than avg. some will go down more than avg.

[mcfish]

I think if there is 'condo carnage' it will be in over-built areas, poor locations, and condos with no seaviews.

I'd agree 100% with you.

nothing survives CARNAGE. All will go down-some will go down less than avg. some will go down more than avg.

I Love carnage, it's provides opportunity however all I'm seeing are new developments at staggering prices. 2 new developments in my soi in lower Sukhumvit are priced triple per sqm to the what I paid for mine 10 years ago

The carnage that I see is aimed straight at the buyer [emoji1]

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[theguyfromanotherforum]

There will be no carnage. Simply a fact of life. With bank of Japan going into negative territory even an overpriced condo is better than keeping money in bank.

Edited February 1, 2016 by theguyfromanotherforum