Sleekjub Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 So, this year will be the year for me to finally get a Thai BC/Passport/ID. I'm planning to do it on late October / early November. My case is a lil difference from the rest.. I'm a Singapore citizen born to Thai mum & S'porean dad and was raised here for 23 years. My mum renounced her Singapore PR after being here for around 2 decades and went back to Thailand last year. I've emailed my enquiries regarding Thai BC to the Thai Embassy in Singapore and they said that my mum has to come back Singapore to apply Thai BC for me in person with the required documents. Now, here's the problem.. My mum's thai passport just expired last month, so she went to the respective place to renew her passport but got denied due to unpaid taxes. If my mum still can't get to renew her passport, what can I do? Would the MFA in Bangkok, Thailand be able to help me with my case? I don't mind flying to BKK to do it. Any other solution? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 You can apply for the birth certificate at the consular affairs department of the MFA in Bangkok. They will send the application to the embassy in Singapore for them to issue the birth certificate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleekjub Posted January 29, 2016 Author Share Posted January 29, 2016 (edited) You can apply for the birth certificate at the consular affairs department of the MFA in Bangkok. They will send the application to the embassy in Singapore for them to issue the birth certificate. Will the thai BC have my name together with my thai mum's surname? Or do I have to do a deed poll for surname change? I'm currently having my dad's surname. Edited January 29, 2016 by Sleekjub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 The birth certificate will have your fathers name on it and that should be the name you will have when you are registered in a house book and get your ID card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleekjub Posted January 29, 2016 Author Share Posted January 29, 2016 The birth certificate will have your fathers name on it and that should be the name you will have when you are registered in a house book and get your ID card. isn't it compulsory for thai ID to have Thai name/surname? Even for those who are half thai. One of my cousins who has the same mix as me have english name + his thai mum's surname tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 No, it is not necessary for the ID to have a Thai surname. Your ID will have your given name(s) and your surname as shown in the birth certificate. In your cousin's case, his mother's maiden name was perhaps used on the birth certificate as one of his given names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paz Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) So, this year will be the year for me to finally get a Thai BC/Passport/ID. I'm planning to do it on late October / early November. My case is a lil difference from the rest.. I'm a Singapore citizen born to Thai mum & S'porean dad and was raised here for 23 years. I'm sure you know that Singapore does not allow dual citizenship at your age. So whatever you do be aware of any possible consequence in Singapore. Edited February 5, 2016 by paz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleekjub Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) So, this year will be the year for me to finally get a Thai BC/Passport/ID. I'm planning to do it on late October / early November. My case is a lil difference from the rest.. I'm a Singapore citizen born to Thai mum & S'porean dad and was raised here for 23 years. I'm sure you know that Singapore does not allow dual citizenship at your age. So whatever you do be aware of any possible consequence in Singapore. Yes, I'm fully aware of that. Thanks. Edited February 6, 2016 by Sleekjub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleekjub Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share Posted February 6, 2016 No, it is not necessary for the ID to have a Thai surname. Your ID will have your given name(s) and your surname as shown in the birth certificate. In your cousin's case, his mother's maiden name was perhaps used on the birth certificate as one of his given names. Can I make a request to MFA to take up my mum's surname on the certificate? Or do they strictly follow my name on my current Singapore Identity card? Is deed poll my only choice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 No, it is not necessary for the ID to have a Thai surname. Your ID will have your given name(s) and your surname as shown in the birth certificate. In your cousin's case, his mother's maiden name was perhaps used on the birth certificate as one of his given names. Can I make a request to MFA to take up my mum's surname on the certificate? Or do they strictly follow my name on my current Singapore Identity card? Is deed poll my only choice? When they do the birth certificate they will put the same names that appear on your current birth certificate.from I assume Singapore. Thailand does not do a deed poll for name changes . It is simple matter of applying for a applying for a name change at an Amphoe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleekjub Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share Posted February 6, 2016 No, it is not necessary for the ID to have a Thai surname. Your ID will have your given name(s) and your surname as shown in the birth certificate. In your cousin's case, his mother's maiden name was perhaps used on the birth certificate as one of his given names. Can I make a request to MFA to take up my mum's surname on the certificate? Or do they strictly follow my name on my current Singapore Identity card? Is deed poll my only choice? When they do the birth certificate they will put the same names that appear on your current birth certificate.from I assume Singapore. Thailand does not do a deed poll for name changes . It is simple matter of applying for a applying for a name change at an Amphoe. Few years ago, I did a deed poll to add english and eliminate chinese name which is different from the name that appear on my Singapore birth certificate. Think they still gonna follow my old name on it? I can choose to do a deed poll here in Singapore again before applying for passport and Thai ID card. I just don't want to own both with my dad's surname and have them change again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 No, it is not necessary for the ID to have a Thai surname. Your ID will have your given name(s) and your surname as shown in the birth certificate. In your cousin's case, his mother's maiden name was perhaps used on the birth certificate as one of his given names. Can I make a request to MFA to take up my mum's surname on the certificate? Or do they strictly follow my name on my current Singapore Identity card? Is deed poll my only choice? When they do the birth certificate they will put the same names that appear on your current birth certificate.from I assume Singapore. Thailand does not do a deed poll for name changes . It is simple matter of applying for a applying for a name change at an Amphoe. Few years ago, I did a deed poll to add english and eliminate chinese name which is different from the name that appear on my Singapore birth certificate. Think they still gonna follow my old name on it? I can choose to do a deed poll here in Singapore again before applying for passport and Thai ID card. I just don't want to own both with my dad's surname and have them change again. When you apply for the birth certificate you could include the deed poll with it and they should use your new names on the the birth certificate. If not you could do the name change at the Amphoe when you register to get a Thai ID number and be registered in a house book. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badbanker Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Having done this, you will need to get a "BC/ID" in your Thai birth name! Normally they will wait 3 weeks from the ID cards issuance for the system to update with the new entry before they will change the name. After this you may change your name to Barak Obama if you wish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleekjub Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share Posted February 6, 2016 Having done this, you will need to get a "BC/ID" in your Thai birth name! Normally they will wait 3 weeks from the ID cards issuance for the system to update with the new entry before they will change the name. After this you may change your name to Barak Obama if you wish. So you mean the waiting period is 3 weeks after I apply for thai ID card? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badbanker Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Having done this, you will need to get a "BC/ID" in your Thai birth name! Normally they will wait 3 weeks from the ID cards issuance for the system to update with the new entry before they will change the name. After this you may change your name to Barak Obama if you wish. So you mean the waiting period is 3 weeks after I apply for thai ID card? If your documents are in order they will ask you questions and you will have to provide a witness and original documents with certified Thai translations. It may take them some time to verify the documents but once done they will issue you an BC/ID card in your birth name. Then it takes 3 weeks from the issuance of you ID Card for all the systems to update before you can change you name to George Bush if you wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard W Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Then it takes 3 weeks from the issuance of you ID Card for all the systems to update before you can change you name to George Bush if you wish. I though Thailand had a law against taking an unrelated person's surname. I'd be surprised if there were no Thai citizen with the surname 'Bush'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badbanker Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 In Thailand you are legally allowed to change either of your names at will as long as you don't take someones name to take unusual benefit! Seen this happen many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleekjub Posted February 7, 2016 Author Share Posted February 7, 2016 Having done this, you will need to get a "BC/ID" in your Thai birth name! Normally they will wait 3 weeks from the ID cards issuance for the system to update with the new entry before they will change the name. After this you may change your name to Barak Obama if you wish. So you mean the waiting period is 3 weeks after I apply for thai ID card? If your documents are in order they will ask you questions and you will have to provide a witness and original documents with certified Thai translations.It may take them some time to verify the documents but once done they will issue you an BC/ID card in your birth name. Then it takes 3 weeks from the issuance of you ID Card for all the systems to update before you can change you name to George Bush if you wish. Sooo just to double confirm with you.. My birth name will be registered for my first thai id card no matter what huh? My current name and birth name are different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badbanker Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Yep! And you can change it as and when you want after about 3 weeks for the records to settle into the system! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleekjub Posted April 25, 2016 Author Share Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) You can apply for the birth certificate at the consular affairs department of the MFA in Bangkok. They will send the application to the embassy in Singapore for them to issue the birth certificate. Hey. So, I went to the consulars affairs department of the MFA this afternoon to enquire about Thai BC application. The staff over there told me that they don't have the application form or whatsoever for me to do it. Plus she even told me that I'm not eligible for thai citizenship, let alone thai BC. Really huh? I've told her that the Thai embassy in Singapore said that I'm eligible to apply but she strongly claimed that I can't be a Thai citizen no matter what. Edited April 25, 2016 by Sleekjub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 You can apply for the birth certificate at the consular affairs department of the MFA in Bangkok. They will send the application to the embassy in Singapore for them to issue the birth certificate. Hey. So, I went to the consulars affairs department of the MFA this afternoon to enquire about Thai BC application. The staff over there told me that they don't have the application form or whatsoever for me to do it. Plus she even told me that I'm not eligible for thai citizenship, let alone thai BC. Really huh? I've told her that the Thai embassy in Singapore said that I'm eligible to apply but she strongly claimed that I can't be a Thai citizen no matter what. You evidently talked to a person the knew nothing about getting a birth certificate ant the nationality act. I suggest you go back and try to find somebody that knows what they are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleekjub Posted April 25, 2016 Author Share Posted April 25, 2016 You can apply for the birth certificate at the consular affairs department of the MFA in Bangkok. They will send the application to the embassy in Singapore for them to issue the birth certificate. Hey. So, I went to the consulars affairs department of the MFA this afternoon to enquire about Thai BC application. The staff over there told me that they don't have the application form or whatsoever for me to do it. Plus she even told me that I'm not eligible for thai citizenship, let alone thai BC. Really huh? I've told her that the Thai embassy in Singapore said that I'm eligible to apply but she strongly claimed that I can't be a Thai citizen no matter what. You evidently talked to a person the knew nothing about getting a birth certificate ant the nationality act. I suggest you go back and try to find somebody that knows what they are doing. All of the staffs at the information counter looked at me as if I don't know anything and told my mum that I refused to listen to them. I tried my best explain slowly to them for a couples times and they kept saying "no, you cannot. Mai dai tam.". One of the senior staff called a thai lawyer on the phone to ask about it. The lawyer also said the same thing and told my mum to go Singapore to apply for it. I shook my head in disbelief for the time and effort wasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 The legalization and registration diviision handles birth certificates. I suggest you contact them. Legalization Division Tel : 0-2575-1057 Email : [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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