Pension Increases for British Expats - A glimmer of hope?

[GuestHouse]

This from today's Guardian

http://www.theguardian.com/money/2016/feb/13/frozen-state-pensions-expats

[vogie]

Not optimistic, but it might be a start, fingers crossed.

[i claudius]

There are two hopes and my bet is on Bob .

[vogie]

There are two hopes and my bet is on Bob .

O ye of little faith.

[jacky54]

Well Kieth Vaz is on board for his 90% Asian voters, that's the best hope. Asians discriminated against when they retire back home.

[i claudius]

There are two hopes and my bet is on Bob .

O ye of little faith.

I have learnt to be a pessimist,where the govt is concerned

[arunsakda]

Our social security is not a pension but an insurance policy. That has not stopped some politicians in the US from rallying against expats for such payments such as the vile Rafael Cruz. "turning their back on America"

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[meatboy]

its goner cost 500million,thats just about a weeks bill for the non brits claiming benefits.

[Daffy D]

That would be great

Will it be back dated

[i claudius]

Well Kieth Vaz is on board for his 90% Asian voters, that's the best hope. Asians discriminated against when they retire back home.

The problem is as you know ,immigrants get everything ,us true Brits get nothing ,so you can bet your bottom dollar that if it comes to pass , Indians will get it but not us folk .

[salavan]

if you think frozen pensions are bad wait until they abolish your personal allowance in 2017 you will get 20% less then

[salavan]

 

if you think frozen pensions are bad wait until they abolish your personal allowance in 2017 you will get 20% less then

 

the british goverment is hoping to starve you to death that way they will save even more money

[blackcab]

What about those that maintain a UK address and bank account and just quietly leave?

[GuestHouse]

What about those that maintain a UK address and bank account and just quietly leave?

You mean the people committing fraud.

[i claudius]

What about those that maintain a UK address and bank account and just quietly leave?

You mean the people committing fraud.

I know a guy who did it for 15 years until he died and another who got caught,(his ex split on him,) after back and fore for a year he pays them a bit back every month ,still gets his pension from when he SAID he left. Who says fraud doesn't pay:^_^:

[blackcab]

What about those that maintain a UK address and bank account and just quietly leave?

You mean the people committing fraud.

It's only fraud if they knowingly fail to disclose their absence from the UK. If the person in receipt of the pension had no idea they were required to do this then it's not fraud.

Their claim would of course be incorrect and they would have to repay the overpayment.

[OJAS]

The Department for Work and Pensions told Money: “The government has a very clear position which has remained consistent for around 70 years: the UK state pension is payable worldwide, but is only uprated abroad where we have a legal requirement to do so – for example in the EEA [European Economic Area] or in countries where a reciprocal agreement that allows for uprating is in place. There are no plans to review this.”

Back to the OP, I think that this is the telling piece of the Guardian article.

I am therefore not holding my breath.

[i claudius]

The Department for Work and Pensions told Money: “The government has a very clear position which has remained consistent for around 70 years: the UK state pension is payable worldwide, but is only uprated abroad where we have a legal requirement to do so – for example in the EEA [European Economic Area] or in countries where a reciprocal agreement that allows for uprating is in place. There are no plans to review this.”

Back to the OP, I think that this is the telling piece of the Guardian article.

I am therefore not holding my breath.

As I have said many times there are two hope's and one is Bob

[stephenterry]

if you think frozen pensions are bad wait until they abolish your personal allowance in 2017 you will get 20% less then

That really sucks. Not content with raking in income tax from my pension, they want to bleed me dry. Totally despicable.

[GuestHouse]

if you think frozen pensions are bad wait until they abolish your personal allowance in 2017 you will get 20% less then

That really sucks. Not content with raking in income tax from my pension, they want to bleed me dry. Totally despicable.

It doesn't really suck, its scaremongering.

The personal allowance will remain for anyone who can demonstrate that they derive an income from the UK, pension or investment income, property rental income etc.

[ThaiPauly]

I sent them (the Government) an e-mail saying that if they were to withdraw our personal allowances we would return in our droves to put more pressure on the NHS, and sell any properties we own in the UK to protect ourselves from being taxed, thus creating another housing boom whereby so many properties would flood the market that prices would be driven down...but maybe that's a good thing, presently I own 2 properties in the UK that I rent out, but I would have to sell at least one to avoid taxation. ...obviously we would live in one of them.

Well they dropped the idea for now, but if they resurect the plan I am back there, I can't afford to loose 2k a year

[elliss]

There are two hopes and my bet is on Bob .

O ye of little faith.

I have learnt to be a pessimist,where the govt is concerned

Realistic , comes to mind .

[arunsakda]

What about those that maintain a UK address and bank account and just quietly leave?

You mean the people committing fraud.

I know a guy who did it for 15 years until he died and another who got caught,(his ex split on him,) after back and fore for a year he pays them a bit back every month ,still gets his pension from when he SAID he left. Who says fraud doesn't pay:^_^:

Paying back a bit every month sounds like he got a mollycoddling?

Surprised this level of fraud does not attract a custodial sentence!

[i claudius]

What about those that maintain a UK address and bank account and just quietly leave?

You mean the people committing fraud.

I know a guy who did it for 15 years until he died and another who got caught,(his ex split on him,) after back and fore for a year he pays them a bit back every month ,still gets his pension from when he SAID he left. Who says fraud doesn't pay:^_^:

Paying back a bit every month sounds like he got a mollycoddling?

Surprised this level of fraud does not attract a custodial sentence!

You wish

[OJAS]

if you think frozen pensions are bad wait until they abolish your personal allowance in 2017 you will get 20% less then

That really sucks. Not content with raking in income tax from my pension, they want to bleed me dry. Totally despicable.

It doesn't really suck, its scaremongering.

The personal allowance will remain for anyone who can demonstrate that they derive an income from the UK, pension or investment income, property rental income etc.

So long as our "beloved" Government don't move the goalposts, of course!

There was, indeed, a proposal to scrap our personal allowances put forward a couple of years ago, which, thankfully, was booted into the long grass - but with the proviso that it could be resurrected at some point in the future, though.

[evadgib]

Of particular interest to the 'UK Address' brigade:

Investigatory Powers Bill published

[i claudius]

Of particular interest to the 'UK Address' brigade:

Investigatory Powers Bill published

Why , ?

[evadgib]

The Investigatory Powers Tribunal