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I apologise if this thread is not in the right place, I just wasn't sure where to stick it, putting it in CR or CM forums would only limit the audience and response.

It is this time of the year again, burning season is ramping up, my place already looks white. In addition to that I often found myself having sore throat or post nasal drip either due to dust, or mold or god knows what.

I decided to get an Air Purifier. What does shock me a bit is the price.

I went to Japan in October to travel and saw there a SHarp Air purifier for after conversion around 4000-5000 bht. It was too big to buy and carry:( I thought they shouldn't be that much different in price here. I stumbled on the same model at a whopping 14,990 on SALE!!!

Now I know there are cheaper options, but what I want to ask is, Where do you recommend picking one up? Preferably with installment options for a good one.

What have been your experiences before and after getting a filter and how much did it help?

What are you recommendations? For now I see that sharp beats the competition in tests.

Thank you.

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They are expensive here, unnaturally so plus the filters tend to be very expensive. Which ever one you buy make sure it's fit for purpose, you need a nano type filter that will filter out sub PM2.5 otherwise it's pointless. The best on the market is the IQAir, a US made product that is used in hospitals and filters out most things including gasses et al, Central sells them for a whopping 36,000 and the filters run about 1,500 each.

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A very inexpensive and effective option is to use 3M's Filtrette and cover the filters in your air conditioner and simply run the fun, it cleans the air and removes ultra small particles smaller than PM2.5. It costs about 150 baht a packet, the fan side only of an air conditioner is very inexpensive to run.

If you have no aircon, use Filtrette on the backside of a regular floor fan, it works just as well.

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Chang mai member is exactly correct. You don't need a purifier, but a good filter behind a "box fan". To filter the air you have to move the air, thus big box fan works great with a small micron filter as mentioned. The filter stays in place from the back side suction of the fan. Just make sure the filter covers the entire fan area, otherwise the air will go path of least resistance, bypassing some most of the filter. 3M hepa filters down to 1 micron will trap smoke and dust and pollen particles.

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The thing about air filters, is that they are useless, unless you get one with enough power to really recirculate alot of air. In the US they have a brand called Austin Air Healthmate. I used them for years. They are used in alot of hospitals and laboratories. Worked great for the house. Here, I found the top of the line Samsung model. I believe it is the ACM 50 model, and cost 15,000 baht. The replacement filters are 2,000 baht. A good air filter will always have expensive replacement filters, as they are complicated and large filters. It is worth it. I suffer from allergies, and the filters make a huge difference in my quality of life. If you have only one, I would keep it in your bedroom. This unit is very quite too. And looks nice.

Do not attempt to save money on air filters, as the ones that are effective, are expensive. Look for the size of the filter. If it has a smaller filter, it is nearly useless. Look for really big filters.

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I have a Toshiba (i thought) and it's great, runs faster if there's dirty air like from a cigarette...

But the filters are expensive and not even for sale anymore after a few years since they have new models.

Filtrette looks great but i guess it blocks the intake of the aircon too much to run efficient. . It will save costs of airconcleaning...i always wished to have a filter for the aircon since i dislike those guys who clean them and don't want to have them in my house/bedroom.

But particle filters only clean particles in the air, you need active carbon to clean gases out of the air. I've seen active carbon for sale for waterfilters (in homeworks) but that's in granulated form. That also would work well but it has to be put in a cage or mesh wire and then let the air pass it. This is also used in gasmasks and a cheap solution. Active carbon also comes in fabricstyle but costs much more and it doesn't work well in humid environments.

An ionizer also works well and doesn't need maintenance. It makes particles and dust fall down so at least it's out of the air you breath.

15000 is not cheap but i've seen them for half price, they are old models though and i guess filters are hard to get for those.

But if i lived in a dirty air area (like chiang mai) i sure would buy one. Cars also have ionizers, that's why you don't smell the exhaustgases in traffic jams.

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Where can I buy those 3M filters? I Live in Phayao and I have never came across them in any of the shops. I know it is a big brand and I have seen them doing everything including film for toning car windows. Back when I stayed in Chiang Rai I have never even stumbled upon them.

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Are there also adapters for aircons which can be used for those filtrete filters? I would love to have my aircons maintenancefree, just change filter every 3 months and finished...

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Are there also adapters for aircons which can be used for those filtrete filters? I would love to have my aircons maintenancefree, just change filter every 3 months and finished...

Use of Filtrette on the air intake filter of an air conditioner does not overload it, if you don't change the filtrette and clean the filter after it becomes clogged it simply blows the captured dirt back into the room which is of course self defeating. All you need to do is to cut the Filtrette to size to cover the intake filters on the aircon., it's playschool revisited and simple as can be and the fastening strips are supplied - no adapters are needed.

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Are there also adapters for aircons which can be used for those filtrete filters? I would love to have my aircons maintenancefree, just change filter every 3 months and finished...

Use of Filtrette on the air intake filter of an air conditioner does not overload it, if you don't change the filtrette and clean the filter after it becomes clogged it simply blows the captured dirt back into the room which is of course self defeating. All you need to do is to cut the Filtrette to size to cover the intake filters on the aircon., it's playschool revisited and simple as can be and the fastening strips are supplied - no adapters are needed.

Those plastic dustfilters that i have will be replaced for the filtrete filters right? That's where you put them?

I wished i knew where to buy them. Sounds like a good plan but why the japanese have not thought about making better filters for aircons? Those plastic things don't catch enough so the coolingribs still get very dirty. We have Daikins who work great but i never had to modify anything made in japan, this would be the first time and i bet there is a reason they didn't give those filters with the aircon.

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Are there also adapters for aircons which can be used for those filtrete filters? I would love to have my aircons maintenancefree, just change filter every 3 months and finished...

Use of Filtrette on the air intake filter of an air conditioner does not overload it, if you don't change the filtrette and clean the filter after it becomes clogged it simply blows the captured dirt back into the room which is of course self defeating. All you need to do is to cut the Filtrette to size to cover the intake filters on the aircon., it's playschool revisited and simple as can be and the fastening strips are supplied - no adapters are needed.

Those plastic dustfilters that i have will be replaced for the filtrete filters right? That's where you put them?

I wished i knew where to buy them. Sounds like a good plan but why the japanese have not thought about making better filters for aircons? Those plastic things don't catch enough so the coolingribs still get very dirty. We have Daikins who work great but i never had to modify anything made in japan, this would be the first time and i bet there is a reason they didn't give those filters with the aircon.

NO, you tape the filtrette to the plastic dust filter, it covers or sits on top of them, that's why they supply the fastening tape!

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Are there also adapters for aircons which can be used for those filtrete filters? I would love to have my aircons maintenancefree, just change filter every 3 months and finished...

Use of Filtrette on the air intake filter of an air conditioner does not overload it, if you don't change the filtrette and clean the filter after it becomes clogged it simply blows the captured dirt back into the room which is of course self defeating. All you need to do is to cut the Filtrette to size to cover the intake filters on the aircon., it's playschool revisited and simple as can be and the fastening strips are supplied - no adapters are needed.

Those plastic dustfilters that i have will be replaced for the filtrete filters right? That's where you put them?

I wished i knew where to buy them. Sounds like a good plan but why the japanese have not thought about making better filters for aircons? Those plastic things don't catch enough so the coolingribs still get very dirty. We have Daikins who work great but i never had to modify anything made in japan, this would be the first time and i bet there is a reason they didn't give those filters with the aircon.

NO, you tape the filtrette to the plastic dust filter, it covers or sits on top of them, that's why they supply the fastening tape!

Allright, sounds like a good plan to try. Now i need to know where to buy them.

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Use of Filtrette on the air intake filter of an air conditioner does not overload it, if you don't change the filtrette and clean the filter after it becomes clogged it simply blows the captured dirt back into the room which is of course self defeating. All you need to do is to cut the Filtrette to size to cover the intake filters on the aircon., it's playschool revisited and simple as can be and the fastening strips are supplied - no adapters are needed.

Those plastic dustfilters that i have will be replaced for the filtrete filters right? That's where you put them?

I wished i knew where to buy them. Sounds like a good plan but why the japanese have not thought about making better filters for aircons? Those plastic things don't catch enough so the coolingribs still get very dirty. We have Daikins who work great but i never had to modify anything made in japan, this would be the first time and i bet there is a reason they didn't give those filters with the aircon.

NO, you tape the filtrette to the plastic dust filter, it covers or sits on top of them, that's why they supply the fastening tape!

Allright, sounds like a good plan to try. Now i need to know where to buy them.

Homepro.

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Can someone take put here some photos of what exactly are you talking about both 3M filter and the fitrettes would be very convenient so I can ask people around.

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Can someone take put here some photos of what exactly are you talking about both 3M filter and the fitrettes would be very convenient so I can ask people around.

Filtrette is the 3M product, comes in a red bag, can be found in the home cleaning fluids area of any Homepro.

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What about the first suggestion buy 3m filters and cut them in shape and put them into the air con.

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What about the first suggestion buy 3m filters and cut them in shape and put them into the air con.

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Jeeze fella, what more do you want! In post 4 and elsewhere there's a description of what and how to do it, above is a picture of what to use (the product) and you've been told where to buy it, HomePro. Short of coming round your house and doing it for you I really can't help any further with this!

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I thought that the post 4 and latest one are different filters

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Post 4 says:

"A very inexpensive and effective option is to use 3M's Filtrette and cover the filters in your air conditioner and simply run the fun, it cleans the air and removes ultra small particles smaller than PM2.5. It costs about 150 baht a packet, the fan side only of an air conditioner is very inexpensive to run.

If you have no aircon, use Filtrette on the backside of a regular floor fan, it works just as well".

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I know this is a dumb question but wanted to ask where in the aircon do you put this filter I oppened it out to see . Is the intake?

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I don't know if you can find one of these in Thailand. I bought mine from Amazon. About £150 when I bought it. If I have a smoker come to the house I am happy to let them smoke. I just sit them next to the air cleaner. It has a built in ionizer too. On auto it switches on and off according to the quality of the air.

Bionaire BAP1700 with PermatechTM filters

The filters can be taken out and cleaned with a vacuum cleaner.

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No, you tape the Filtrette to your face and stand in front of the aircon and breath deeply!

Bye!!!

I can see the saarcasm but I looked around the aircon looking for intake. I cant look on top of it due to ceileng clearance. Hence I asked where is the intake usually located

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The cooled air exhausts from the bottom front of the air conditioner, just above that, on the front face of the unit, is a hinged door that typically runs the full length of the device. Open that door, it will almost certainly swing upwards with hinges at the top. Inside you'll see two filters, it's those that you need to remove, cover with filtrette and then replace.

In the following picture the air intake is at the top, the vent cover will be hinged to allow access:

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In the following picture the cover can be seen quite clearly on the front face of the unit:

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I found 2 sets of filters inside. 2 huge mesh nets and underneath that 2 plastic stripes with wholes. I need to check how many will I need my aircon is pretty bit.

Will it affect the air con? Dont want to breal it. Then again I usually use it on low settings

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I found 2 sets of filters inside. 2 huge mesh nets and underneath that 2 plastic stripes with wholes. I need to check how many will I need my aircon is pretty bit.

Will it affect the air con? Dont want to breal it. Then again I usually use it on low settings

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Cover the two large mesh nets completely with a single layer of filtrette, using the fastening strips supplied. No, it will not damage the aircon, if it gets really blocked the aircon unit will simply push the dirt back into the air although the very dark colour of the filtrette should tell you it's time to change it.

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