snoop1130 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 A Dengue Fever Vaccine for Thailand is just around the corner BANGKOK -- As the Ministry of Public Health expect Dengue Fever cases to grow by over 16 percent this year, news has broke that a new vaccine against the virus is now on the path to registration in Thailand.The Food and Drugs Administration is currently considering registration of the vaccine against four different strains of the virus, said Jarung Muangchana, director of the National Vaccine Institute.“If the vaccine registration is approved, it will gain acceptance for legal use nationwide,” he said.This vaccine has already been registered in the Philippines, Mexico and Brazil, reports the Bangkok Post, and although is proven to only be 60 percent effective, is still an important tool in the fight against Dengue.In the cases where the vaccine did not work in completely eliminating Dengue, 80 percent of patients still saw its virility lessened.Full Story: http://whatsonsukhumvit.com/a-dengue-fever-vaccine-for-thailand-is-just-around-the-corner/ -- (c) What's on Sukhumvit 2016-02-18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OOLEEBER Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 This is HUGE if it's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 It's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky54 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 whoever developed that should get the Nobel prize Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolhand Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Somewhat off topic... relevant all the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pakaty Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 I hope this is not from the same people that brought us the cure for ebola. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblegum Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 bs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inaktive Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Somewhat off topic... relevant all the same Zika is around for at least 60 Years but as long as it was only Africa and other poor Places noone in the Media cared. Doesnt mean the Pharma companies didnt see that outbreak coming because it was spreading for years now. Everyone who works in Pharma did see it jump from africa to asia and micronesia and then to south america. it was just a question of when it would reach countries wealthy enough so a vaccine will make money. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zika_virus now that its at the US Border its all bit Media frenzy but even a year ago when it was already running crazy in many places like Brasil the media didnt care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyjim5 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 What is being discussed is Dengvaxia http://www.sanofipasteur.com/en/articles/dengvaxia-world-s-first-dengue-vaccine-approved-in-mexico.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedemon Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Somewhat off topic... relevant all the same Zika is around for at least 60 Years but as long as it was only Africa and other poor Places noone in the Media cared. Doesnt mean the Pharma companies didnt see that outbreak coming because it was spreading for years now. Everyone who works in Pharma did see it jump from africa to asia and micronesia and then to south america. it was just a question of when it would reach countries wealthy enough so a vaccine will make money. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zika_virus now that its at the US Border its all bit Media frenzy but even a year ago when it was already running crazy in many places like Brasil the media didnt care. Why didn't you fund it last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torpedo1970 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 sure.... as they cured Ebola they are the best!!! after all TIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inaktive Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Somewhat off topic... relevant all the same Zika is around for at least 60 Years but as long as it was only Africa and other poor Places noone in the Media cared. Doesnt mean the Pharma companies didnt see that outbreak coming because it was spreading for years now. Everyone who works in Pharma did see it jump from africa to asia and micronesia and then to south america. it was just a question of when it would reach countries wealthy enough so a vaccine will make money. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zika_virus now that its at the US Border its all bit Media frenzy but even a year ago when it was already running crazy in many places like Brasil the media didnt care. Why didn't you fund it last year? You know they are working on the Zika Vaccine for years already thats why they are nearly done ? After 2007 all the Vaccine companies did start their research because it was just a matter of time and the first will be a megaseller. But Vaccines take a lot of time to design and test. The first Trials of Dengue Vaccines are now more than 10 yearsold and the vaccines are still not on market and perfected. If they had one ready dont you think they would sell it and corner that market as fast as possible ? with a average of 3 doses per person needed it would be a megaseller with around 2.5 BILLION people living in countries with dengue right now. Even at a low price of say 5$ per dose thats 7.5 BILLION $ in just one year and the first can most likely charge a lot more ! And who tells you i didnt invest in that ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyjim5 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 inaktive You are mistaken if you believe there is not a Dengue vaccine on the market Dengvaxia is the name of the vaccine ! http://www.sanofipasteur.com/en/articles/dengvaxia-world-s-first-dengue-vaccine-approved-in-mexico.aspx This is also the vaccine being evaluated by the Thai Health Authorities ( It is the first and currently the only Dengue vaccine available) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thechook Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 whoever developed that should get the Nobel prizenah the Thai that created the ebola vacine deserves it more, he save many lives and destroyed the ebola virus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Gravy Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 I would say that Thailand is certainly a very good supplier of generic medicines but I will be happily surprised if they can make this vaccine and be the originators.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiman Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Somewhat off topic... relevant all the same Lol the X-Files is back open Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Do you know if it wasn't actually created by a pharmaceutical company and started to spread from Guinea? Somewhat off topic... relevant all the same Zika is around for at least 60 Years but as long as it was only Africa and other poor Places noone in the Media cared. Doesnt mean the Pharma companies didnt see that outbreak coming because it was spreading for years now. Everyone who works in Pharma did see it jump from africa to asia and micronesia and then to south america. it was just a question of when it would reach countries wealthy enough so a vaccine will make money. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zika_virus now that its at the US Border its all bit Media frenzy but even a year ago when it was already running crazy in many places like Brasil the media didnt care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deerhunter Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 It's true. It probably is but it was or is only approved in two places, France & Brazil I think, and then only for people between 16 & 40-something. But it sure is a start. Just no use for kids or us expat oldies who could afford it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumgranosalum Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Somewhat off topic... relevant all the same Irrelevant and highly inaccurate. Remember too that correlation does not equal causation and ifact even the correlation claims here are inaccurate. For a good rebuttal read this. http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/science-sushi/2016/01/31/genetically-modified-mosquitoes-didnt-start-zika-ourbreak/#.VsZ2eMct_qM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Just like the HIV vaccine Thailand developed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumgranosalum Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 It's true. It probably is but it was or is only approved in two places, France & Brazil I think, and then only for people between 16 & 40-something. But it sure is a start. Just no use for kids or us expat oldies who could afford it At the end of 2015 it was Philippines, Brazil and Mexico. Others are following. Sanofi the company is French based. It is most likely that countries with high incidence of Dengue will approve it first. There seems also to be a massive amount of misinformation and ignorance surrounding Dengue, the Aedes mosquito and other diseases (e.g. Zika) for which this animal is a vector. There is a lot f info out there - I can only assume that people still don't know how to get information from the internet and don't seem to be able to sift fact from fiction or conspiracy theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 I will believe it, when I see it! e.g. I don't believe it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumgranosalum Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) It's true. It probably is but it was or is only approved in two places, France & Brazil I think, and then only for people between 16 & 40-something. But it sure is a start. Just no use for kids or us expat oldies who could afford it If approved in Thailand you will probably be able get it. As for cost, so far there have been no claims that it is "too expensive". Cost to a population will also depend on how much is subsidised by respective governments As for "no use" I haven't seen an explanation yet for the age range that it was made available to in Brazil....I don't think it was to do with limits on efficacy, it was more based on demographic considerations. for a vaccine to be effective it needs to be targeted on the right population. Edited February 19, 2016 by cumgranosalum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irwinfc Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) info and results from the paper that documents the clinical trial that tested Dengvaxia (Clinical efficacy and safety of a novel tetravalent dengue vaccine in healthy children in Asia: a phase 3, randomised, observer-masked, placebo-controlled trial) * Vaccine name: Dengvaxia * No. of doses required: 3 doses within one year (@months 0, 6, and 12) * Adverse events among vaccinated: 62% * Adverse events among controls: 38% * "The primary endpoint was achieved with 56·5% (95% CI 43·8-66·4) efficacy." the last line means that out of 100 persons who never had dengue fever before, 56-57 of them are likely to be protected from dengue. due to the design nature of clinical trials, the statement above also means that anyone who gets vaccinated can toss a coin with the chance of head (or tail) equal to being protected from dengue. very exciting... not! Edited February 19, 2016 by irwinfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 ...after all....Thailand is moving forward. Hope to buy it soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeryble Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Somewhat off topic... relevant all the sameIrrelevant and highly inaccurate. Remember too that correlation does not equal causation and ifact even the correlation claims here are inaccurate.For a good rebuttal read this. http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/science-sushi/2016/01/31/genetically-modified-mosquitoes-didnt-start-zika-ourbreak/#.VsZ2eMct_qM A fascinating read, thanks for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siameaze Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 The principal problems with a vaccine "cure" are availability, distribution and cost. The root cause still needs to be addressed. That is to minimize mosquito population. Yesterday it was malaria, then dengue and now zika. There are basic steps to still be taken in mosquito minimization and people may gain false hope from a vaccine "cure". Prevention should still be the primary activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 I heard they used section 44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siameaze Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 I moved to Thailand from Singapore. They had a dengue problem a few years back. The government (basically benevolent) started a program on addressing mosquito breeding. The citizens are compliant as well as business. Lots of education on the problem and many inspections with associate fines at worksites and even residences. Looking for free standing water where the mosquitos breed. Lots of fogging carried out too. YET SINGAPORE STILL HAS A BIG DENGUE PROBLEM AND NOT WAITING FOR A VACCINE!!!! They openly provide statistics on clusters and encourage individual "self-defense".: Spray under beds and in closets; apply repellent; clear out water catching spots; contain and;remove food waste (Mosquitos love leftovers) So this isn't an easy problem that will go away waiting for a vaccine. Strong effort is still being applied to the prevention battle but the problem is still far from over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnniey Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Thailand does something good and only a few give praise. Where are all the old moaners? Saying "tee rak Thai mosquito make better me" Maybe on the learn Thai sub forum lol. Well done Thailand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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