rooster59 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Chinese cruise ship sinks off Laem Chabang port SRI RACHA: Chinese cruise ship "Ocean Dream" , anchored off Laem Chanang port in Sri Racha for over a year, sank into the sea today, raising fear by Thai environmental authorities that it could cause pollution in the sea. The cruise ship which was abandoned in Chonburi sea by its Chinese owner was seen to take in water yesterday by fishermen.Fishermen immediately reported the cruise ship to authorities of the Marine Department’s Marine Safety Centre, as it was inclining to the left side.Authorities immediately coordinated with the Chinese owner to stabilise the vessel back to its position, and were working out a plan to have it fixed today.However the inclining vessel later sank off about two kilometres off the Laem Chabang coast.But the water at the sunken site is not deep, the vessel could be seen submerged with its side above the water.Commander of the Navy First Fleet Vice Admiral Rangsarit Satayanukul later today ordered a Navy plane to fly to the scene to see if the vessel would leak out oil or not as he feared it could pose environmental threat.According to Fleet Mon which tracks ships in seven seas, the Chinese cruise ship Ocean Dream is anchored at Laem Chabang port for more than a year.The ship was to depart for cruise in China, but instead, was anchored off the Laem Chabang coast and seemed to be abandoned and with no crew and due maintenance.The owner was asked to move the ship somewhere out from Thai waters, but no confirmation received so far, that the owner is going to do anything.The ship as it is, in her present condition, seems to be a threat to shipping and ecology, she may simply capsize in fresh weather, judging from photos. Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/content/152733 -- Thai PBS 2016-02-27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bobobirdiebuddy Posted February 27, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2016 And of course neither the Thai authorities nor the Chinese owners will take responsibility. Could it be (perish the thought)this watery grave was no accident? 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhunBENQ Posted February 27, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2016 (edited) Chinese way of dumping rusty scrap? Mooring for a year Another stunning story <deleted> Good luck with recovering this scrap. Smaller version of "Costa Concordia" http://www.newsmaritime.com/2016/abandoned-cruise-ship-ocean-dream-capsized-and-sank-off-thailand/ The cruise ship Ocean Dream (IMO: 7211517) has overall length of 163.00 m, moulded beam of 24.00 m and maximum draft of 7.00 m. The deadweight of the vessel is 2,352 DWT and the gross tonnage is 17,042 GRT. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_Dream_%281972_ship%29 A report from 2 days ago! See the hole A foreseeable disaster. Negligence at its worst (or criminal intent). https://www.fleetmon.com/maritime-news/2016/11631/ghost-ship-laem-chabang-road-cruise-ship-ocean-dre/ Edited February 28, 2016 by Rimmer OTT 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stoker58 Posted February 27, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2016 This would have made an epic wreck dive if it had been sunk in the right place. Now it will cost a truly huge amount to refloat and move, and good luck to the Thais on getting any money out of the Chinese owners. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Chinese way of dumping rusty scrap? Mooring for a year Another stunning story Good luck with recovering this scrap. Smaller version of "Costa Concordia" http://www.newsmaritime.com/2016/abandoned-cruise-ship-ocean-dream-capsized-and-sank-off-thailand/ The cruise ship Ocean Dream (IMO: 7211517) has overall length of 163.00 m, moulded beam of 24.00 m and maximum draft of 7.00 m. The deadweight of the vessel is 2,352 DWT and the gross tonnage is 17,042 GRT. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_Dream_%281972_ship%29 A report from 2 days ago! See the hole A foreseeable disaster. Negligence at its worst (or criminal intent). https://www.fleetmon.com/maritime-news/2016/11631/ghost-ship-laem-chabang-road-cruise-ship-ocean-dre/ That ship has had a very colourful life with 11 owners since 1972. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suradit69 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) And of course neither the Thai authorities nor the Chinese owners will take responsibility. Could it be (perish the thought)this watery grave was no accident? Cruise ship disasters of one sort or another seem to happen almost monthly regardless of the flag under which they sail. There are attorneys who specialize almost exclusively in suing on behalf of people injured, killed, gone missing or taken ill aboard cruise ships. Greed and disavowing resposibility are hardly unique to China or Thailand. Edited February 28, 2016 by Rimmer JPG removed, nothing to do with tourist accident lawyers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ezzra Posted February 28, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) Only in Thailand would the port and maritime authorities will allow an abandoned ship to just rust away not far for shipping and commercial lines... why? because this is Thailand, 'will cross the bridge when we get to it they say', 'why do today what we can do next month?' plan a head? forward thinking? preventive maintenance? don't make me laugh, this is Thailand, we don't do this things here.... Edited February 28, 2016 by ezzra 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lupatria Posted February 28, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2016 A master piece of Thai-Chinese cooperation. An open door just above the waterline, no crew, no maintenance and probably no lights. Such a situation is screaming for disaster. How could the Thai authorities watch this for a year with no action? if I remember right, according to international maritime law anyone who throws the first line to a ship in distress at sea (which is obviously the case) and given up by the captain (certainly) has the right to claim ownership of the vessel. Hence, the Thai authorities could have claimed the wreck a long time ago, tow it to a shipyard and sell it as scrap metal. Now I'm looking forward to the fruit,- and successful cooperation between these two great nations building a high speed railway. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mesterm Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Was it made in China as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kaptainrob Posted February 28, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2016 Only in Thailand would the port and maritime authorities will allow an abandoned ship to just rust away not far for shipping and commercial lines... why? because this is Thailand, 'will cross the bridge when we get to it they say', 'why do today what we can do next month?' plan a head? forward thinking? preventive maintenance? don't make me laugh, this is Thailand, we don't do this things here.... Another Thailand-bashing post ... There are abandoned ships and aeroplanes all around the World. Shipping companies, cruise operators and holding companies gone bust or without funds to operate and maintain. It is not a simple (nor inexpensive) matter to remove a ship (or aeroplane) without owners consent. This ship is now a 'wreck' and appropriate Maritime law of salvage may be applied. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanferdi Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 I have a question to the authorities..... So much attention given to checking and confiscating foreign owned vessels in Phuket. Here this big Steel Elephant floating for a year off shore, visible to all was not checked.....doesnt that show negligence or someone getting paid off to ignore???? Hmmmmm FACE LOST.... use FACEBOOK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhunBENQ Posted February 28, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) And of course neither the Thai authorities nor the Chinese owners will take responsibility. Could it be (perish the thought)this watery grave was no accident? Cruise ship disasters of one sort or another seem to happen almost monthly regardless of the flag under which they sail. There are attorneys who specialize almost exclusively in suing on behalf of people injured, killed, gone missing or taken ill aboard cruise ships. Greed and disavowing resposibility are hardly unique to China or Thailand. True, But in your list you often see the term "accident". Just a couple of days ago a drunken captain in Germany steered his cargo ship to a river bank. That happens. BUT: this case was not an accident. It was a case of negligence hardly conceivable in a developed country. It had posted a link that has probably gone unnoticed. https://www.fleetmon.com/maritime-news/2016/11631/ghost-ship-laem-chabang-road-cruise-ship-ocean-dre/ From the site, this is the status of the ship two days before the disaster! Edited February 28, 2016 by KhunBENQ 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oztaurus Posted February 28, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2016 I thought this was just the first delivery of the Chinese submarines for the Royal Thai navy. - it will be about as useful for the defense of the nation. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laislica Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 This would have made an epic wreck dive if it had been sunk in the right place. Now it will cost a truly huge amount to refloat and move, and good luck to the Thais on getting any money out of the Chinese owners. Easy, just slap a tax on air fares from China? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Re-float the ship, tow it to India to be scrapped. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggusoil Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 And of course neither the Thai authorities nor the Chinese owners will take responsibility. Could it be (perish the thought)this watery grave was no accident? Terroritsts? Why not have a terroritst event? Keep us on our toes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumgranosalum Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 So Koh Sichang can look forward to some black, oily beaches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little mary sunshine Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Sitting for a year.....Disaster in the making!! Why was that allowed? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Was it made in China as well? Built in Italy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post onemorechang Posted February 28, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) Only in Thailand would the port and maritime authorities will allow an abandoned ship to just rust away not far for shipping and commercial lines... why? because this is Thailand, 'will cross the bridge when we get to it they say', 'why do today what we can do next month?' plan a head? forward thinking? preventive maintenance? don't make me laugh, this is Thailand, we don't do this things here.... So you never been to Africa then !!!!!! South America. Russia. India. Just to mention a few that do the same. Edited February 28, 2016 by onemorechang 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 A master piece of Thai-Chinese cooperation. An open door just above the waterline, no crew, no maintenance and probably no lights. Such a situation is screaming for disaster. How could the Thai authorities watch this for a year with no action? if I remember right, according to international maritime law anyone who throws the first line to a ship in distress at sea (which is obviously the case) and given up by the captain (certainly) has the right to claim ownership of the vessel. Hence, the Thai authorities could have claimed the wreck a long time ago, tow it to a shipyard and sell it as scrap metal. Now I'm looking forward to the fruit,- and successful cooperation between these two great nations building a high speed railway. I'm pretty sure international maritime law only applies outside of waters under national jurisdiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kularion Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Good luck with recovering this scrap. Smaller version of "Costa Concordia" http://www.newsmaritime.com/2016/abandoned-cruise-ship-ocean-dream-capsized-and-sank-off-thailand/ The cruise ship Ocean Dream (IMO: 7211517) has overall length of 163.00 m, moulded beam of 24.00 m and maximum draft of 7.00 m. The deadweight of the vessel is 2,352 DWT and the gross tonnage is 17,042 GRT. I use to work on cruise ship mate... not Carvical which Costa was from but different company and I can tell you that Costa Concordia story was nothing like this one. This was tragedy and 32 people died... Complete disaster and filing of crew and officers on board of this vessel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Costa_Concordia_disaster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smew Posted February 28, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2016 Here we go again, Chinese environmental methodology of international waters .. They destroyed their own environment and now encroaching onto others! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post louse1953 Posted February 28, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2016 What a well written article.I don't believe a word of it. One word springs to mind,INSURANCE. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louse1953 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 And of course neither the Thai authorities nor the Chinese owners will take responsibility. Could it be (perish the thought)this watery grave was no accident? I rekon the Chinese have donated a new fishing reef and tourist attraction for Pattaya.Can only enhance Pattaya's reputation as the family holiday destination. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nigeone Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Insurance isn't going to pay out on this !! It's been lying without a crew or personnel on board for a year...No chance of a claim on this! And the bill for righting it and moving it is going to be massive !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little mary sunshine Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Maritime Minister needs to be Fired!! Pathetic to allow this to Happen and continue,to destroy,the Thai marine environment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth4All Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Only in Thailand would the port and maritime authorities will allow an abandoned ship to just rust away not far for shipping and commercial lines... why? because this is Thailand, 'will cross the bridge when we get to it they say', 'why do today what we can do next month?' plan a head? forward thinking? preventive maintenance? don't make me laugh, this is Thailand, we don't do this things here.... Another Thailand-bashing post ... There are abandoned ships and aeroplanes all around the World. Shipping companies, cruise operators and holding companies gone bust or without funds to operate and maintain. It is not a simple (nor inexpensive) matter to remove a ship (or aeroplane) without owners consent. This ship is now a 'wreck' and appropriate Maritime law of salvage may be applied. Chinese bashing, too!! Why would the Thai authorities know Maritime Law? 11 owners since 1972--wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigermoth Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 A master piece of Thai-Chinese cooperation. An open door just above the waterline, no crew, no maintenance and probably no lights. Such a situation is screaming for disaster. How could the Thai authorities watch this for a year with no action? if I remember right, according to international maritime law anyone who throws the first line to a ship in distress at sea (which is obviously the case) and given up by the captain (certainly) has the right to claim ownership of the vessel. Hence, the Thai authorities could have claimed the wreck a long time ago, tow it to a shipyard and sell it as scrap metal. Now I'm looking forward to the fruit,- and successful cooperation between these two great nations building a high speed railway. With a high speed railway, Totally unecessary, built and maintained Thailand and China, as sure as hell I won't risk my life on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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