webfact Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Cute or Cruel? Monk faces prosecution over using dogs to pull food cartBy Coconuts BangkokResidents called the police after seeing Phra Nutee used his dogs to pull the food cart. Photo: Watchdog ThailandBANGKOK: -- The sight of a monk using temple dogs to pull a food cart during morning alms no longer elicits smiles from locals after they noticed how exhausted the animals looked.Phra Nutee Suttathammo, 67, who rose to internet fame four years ago because of his cart-pulling Golden Retriever, is facing a charge of animal cruelty in Chachoengsao province after angry residents called the police on him yesterday when they saw that Phra Nutee was using the dogs as a gimmick to ask for food and money.His new dogs Song and Sam (Two and Three) reportedly looked sick and dehydrated. The residents who filed the report have asked a local animal hospital to examine the dogs and issue a note for the prosecution, the charity said.Full story: http://bangkok.coconuts.co/2016/03/15/cute-or-cruel-monk-faces-prosecution-over-using-dogs-pull-food-cart-- Coconuts Bangkok 2016-03-16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeneeds Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 From the video the dog looks alert , not stressed , the monk gives the dog a small tit bit although the video has broken footage at that stage, but you do see the monk go into the basket and then see the hand move back from the dog, the still photo the dog looks alert ears are pricked up, When you see monks in the early hours of the morning collecting alms it is not too hot, so unless you give more information or footage , from the evidence seen here, some one has gotten out of the wrong side of the bed to make the complaint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Lots of people in LoS ' face prosecution ' but depending on who they are etc that's as far as it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 From the video the dog looks alert , not stressed , the monk gives the dog a small tit bit although the video has broken footage at that stage, but you do see the monk go into the basket and then see the hand move back from the dog, the still photo the dog looks alert ears are pricked up, When you see monks in the early hours of the morning collecting alms it is not too hot, so unless you give more information or footage , from the evidence seen here, some one has gotten out of the wrong side of the bed to make the complaint. That's an old video from 3 years ago of a dog who "disappeared" after it got to old and sick with hip problems. 5 dogs have come and gone since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Why the fuss? In Canada they use dog sleds, so what is the difference. Dog seems ok in the video. Maybe just more of the green eyed monster sindrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimay1 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Phra Nutee was using the dogs as a gimmick to ask for food and money. I am shocked and amazed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeneeds Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 From the video the dog looks alert , not stressed , the monk gives the dog a small tit bit although the video has broken footage at that stage, but you do see the monk go into the basket and then see the hand move back from the dog, the still photo the dog looks alert ears are pricked up, When you see monks in the early hours of the morning collecting alms it is not too hot, so unless you give more information or footage , from the evidence seen here, some one has gotten out of the wrong side of the bed to make the complaint. That's an old video from 3 years ago of a dog who "disappeared" after it got to old and sick with hip problems. 5 dogs have come and gone since then. From your knowledge then, is there a problem , with 5 dogs coming and going since the video, hip displacement or hip problems , does not seem to come from excessive weight from the trolley, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Buddhist's obese, vintage cars, dogs used to pull carts, is this country out on a witch hunt to demonise Buddhism? Someone high up the food chain has a hatred of all things Buddhist? What is going on in Los? Leave the religion alone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaiChai Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Wonder what happened to Neung? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesetat2013 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Buddhist's obese, vintage cars, dogs used to pull carts, is this country out on a witch hunt to demonise Buddhism? Someone high up the food chain has a hatred of all things Buddhist? What is going on in Los? Leave the religion alone! Politicians are not the only ones who have felt like they could do anything in Thailand they wanted to without fear of persecution and prosecution. People are getting tired of seeing and allowing such bad things happen especially when they still struggle daily just to support themselves and their families. Monks have abused their positions long enough. It's about time someone actually saw them for what they really are and toon some action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thian Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Why the fuss? In Canada they use dog sleds, so what is the difference. Dog seems ok in the video. Maybe just more of the green eyed monster sindrome. Don't say that! Our Watt has many huskies....now how did they end up at a Watt in Bangkok where it's 35 celcius every day???? Why did he use a golden retriever to work? Because he looks so cute and western? My neighbour has a labrador which lives in a 3x3 metre cage and they only let him in the garden one hour in 4 days....That's his life. And have you seen how sick/cripple/dirty the soidogs in BKK are?? That's Thainess at it's best. This is so hypocrit as can be. Thai don't care at all for dogs, they are too lazy to treat them well. In Europe i could call the animal police if we treated our dogs the same way and they would all get taken away from their owners. Thai even do the same to their kids which never come out of the house. We live in a great moobaan with playgrounds but they never ever go there because grandma/pa is too lazy to walking with them. The parents also don't give a dime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 A gimmick, thats back fired regards Worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krystian Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 The Monk trusts the dog more than a human companion,, whats wrong with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualbiker Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Only thing I would say is that the cart is a bit big for the current dog.. Needs a little alteration.. But certainly that video, even if old showed that the dog was OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualbiker Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Why the fuss? In Canada they use dog sleds, so what is the difference. Dog seems ok in the video. Maybe just more of the green eyed monster sindrome. Don't say that! Our Watt has many huskies....now how did they end up at a Watt in Bangkok where it's 35 celcius every day???? Why did he use a golden retriever to work? Because he looks so cute and western? My neighbour has a labrador which lives in a 3x3 metre cage and they only let him in the garden one hour in 4 days....That's his life. And have you seen how sick/cripple/dirty the soidogs in BKK are?? That's Thainess at it's best. This is so hypocrit as can be. Thai don't care at all for dogs, they are too lazy to treat them well. In Europe i could call the animal police if we treated our dogs the same way and they would all get taken away from their owners. Thai even do the same to their kids which never come out of the house. We live in a great moobaan with playgrounds but they never ever go there because grandma/pa is too lazy to walking with them. The parents also don't give a dime. WHERE is your Wat.. Huskies are expensive. I'm off down to get one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thian Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 The Monk trusts the dog more than a human companion,, whats wrong with that? I bet his Watt also has many Thai dogs....so why the farang dog has to work? Couldn't he ask a Bang kaew to do this ? They can stand hot weather better then a golden retriever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 The Monk trusts the dog more than a human companion,, whats wrong with that? How many dogs do you know that trust a monk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualbiker Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 The Monk trusts the dog more than a human companion,, whats wrong with that? I bet his Watt also has many Thai dogs....so why the farang dog has to work? Couldn't he ask a Bang kaew to do this ? They can stand hot weather better then a golden retriever. Catch up.. That one is no longer working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyBowskill Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Part of my thinks its ok but then there's another part that wonders how much the monk would like pulling a trolley to collect dog food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Looks to be a wonderful idea, so long as the dog is treated well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 From the video the dog looks alert , not stressed , the monk gives the dog a small tit bit although the video has broken footage at that stage, but you do see the monk go into the basket and then see the hand move back from the dog, the still photo the dog looks alert ears are pricked up, When you see monks in the early hours of the morning collecting alms it is not too hot, so unless you give more information or footage , from the evidence seen here, some one has gotten out of the wrong side of the bed to make the complaint. That's an old video from 3 years ago of a dog who "disappeared" after it got to old and sick with hip problems. 5 dogs have come and gone since then. From your knowledge then, is there a problem , with 5 dogs coming and going since the video, hip displacement or hip problems , does not seem to come from excessive weight from the trolley, It's not from my knowledge, it's in the OP. The trolley looks nice in the video, but then again always good to look nice in publicity pieces eh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 I'd rather give food to the dog. At least he works for a living. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Buddhist's obese, vintage cars, dogs used to pull carts, is this country out on a witch hunt to demonise Buddhism? Someone high up the food chain has a hatred of all things Buddhist? What is going on in Los? Leave the religion alone! You forgot to mention a monk carrying a gun, monks abusing children, monks selling drugs, monks forging money, monk fraudsters, monks driving cars etc, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marquis22 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 What's the difference to huskies in Alaska, trotters in Finland and ponies in Lampang, they all pull carts of some sort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnet Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 What's the difference? The heat. Dogs should not be worked in this country unless the weather is cool enough. Firstly the ground they walk on, if it is the road as in the picture above, is too hot during the day. Try taking your shoes off and having a go. Secondly, I've never seen Thais showing due concern to animals in heat. The only reason the dogs are being used by the monks is to save their own workload and create a public scene of "narak-ness". What possible benefit does it serve the dog? Working dogs (outside of Thailand that is) such as German Shepherds and Huskies enjoy the work they are given due to the environment and climate they work within. Compare that to a busy, noisy hot shatty Thai street then ask what the difference is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Perhaps he got the idea after viewing this page on his smart phone. https://www.google.co.th/search?q=dog+carts&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=637&tbm=isch&imgil=BJm-z6Xh8KPuFM%253A%253BbQ00q1KSMhI4JM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.caninecarriages.com%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=BJm-z6Xh8KPuFM%253A%252CbQ00q1KSMhI4JM%252C_&usg=__jtvWmkuXZvk3Y3K2lRjnm5XZ78Q%3D&ved=0ahUKEwj34Yyqo8TLAhUMv5QKHXzTApYQyjcIIw&ei=jNToVvfrN4z-0gT8pouwCQ#imgrc=BJm-z6Xh8KPuFM%3A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autonuaq Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 dog is not made for this kind of work. will shorten the life expectancy of the animal in general with 30%-50%. beside the dog used on the picture they are known to have hip problems. Hip are the power engine and now overloaded. the is abused of an animal . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 cull the street dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 cull the street dogs Who's next? Beggars or the homeless? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 dog is not made for this kind of work. will shorten the life expectancy of the animal in general with 30%-50%. beside the dog used on the picture they are known to have hip problems. Hip are the power engine and now overloaded. the is abused of an animal . Dogs have been working with man for centuries. Take a look at these pictures and get a perspective. The dog was pulling a small cart with a few pounds of rice and other food that the monk had collected. Try telling a soldier with a canine partner that he's mistreating his best friend. https://www.google.co.th/search?q=working+dogs&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=637&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjI6Y6KrcTLAhWnGKYKHV-3BWIQ_AUIBigB#imgrc=ueT7zOGjGhi4kM%3A Perhaps you prefer what I call interior decoration dogs like these. https://www.google.co.th/search?q=lap+dogs&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=637&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiG7dKLrsTLAhWFMqYKHbbkC4YQ_AUIBigB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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