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Fracair,

If all you're worrying about her proficiency in English, enroll her to a private English lesson. If ti's the requirements you're worried about, I suggest you look up for several law firms who are experts on this case. They'll file everything for you and some has 100% guarantee if not then you get your money back. I know one firm, siam international legal group ,one of the popular ones, for a decent price but sure one. They offer free consultation so check them out. The sitre is http://siam-legal.com .good luck!

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Fracair,

If all you're worrying about her proficiency in English, enroll her to a private English lesson. If ti's the requirements you're worried about, I suggest you look up for several law firms who are experts on this case. They'll file everything for you and some has 100% guarantee if not then you get your money back. I know one firm, siam international legal group ,one of the popular ones, for a decent price but sure one. They offer free consultation so check them out. The sitre is http://siam-legal.com .good luck!

I am worried about Fracair's command of English - it is more like Thaiglish "Today I book day for wedding"

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The sitre is http://siam-legal.com .good luck!
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I thought allot about comments made recently on this post, I have decided to go for visit visa; both my fiancée and I can do this without need of visa company. I intend for her to stay the 6 months, after that if she is still happy to become my wife and she is happy to be in England, I will return with her and make the application for fiancée visa.

For the visit visa I would be asking that she is allowed entry for the following reasons.

1: We are a couple who love each other.

2: It would have allowed her time, see if she could be happy in England

3: We would have demonstrated that we have lived together other than me on holiday in Thailand.

4: Gives us more credibility when we go for fiancée visa, thus making the application stronger

5: Reason for return, the only response to that is that I can only guarantee she will return to make an application for fiancée visa. She does not have land or money only family, she will not have a job to go back to but I will support her all the way.

(Questions)

I provide letter of sponsorship stating that I am able to support her whilst she is here.

I provide bank statements and pay slips.

I provide information on accommodation for her visit.

Is it okay for me to say in sponsorship letter that we are in love and that the purpose for visit is to establish that she can be happy here for when we marry?

We intend to have the full 6 months together and I will then return with her to Thailand and immediately put an application in for fiancée visa, I realise that I may still have to return alone but I will be more confident in application after this with no need for Visa Company.

We have been together nearly one year; I have allotted of proof of communication and money sent whilst we are apart.

I took note of concerns regarding western men and Thai ladies, however I know I am in love and I realise this could impede my judgement so with this in mind I have decided to do the visit visa, but I need help

I am not sure of all he questions I need to raise yet, but if someone could tell me exactly what I need to provide and what forms we need to submit I would appreciate it.

I am not sure if we can marry on a visit visa but if all goes well, we will get married before she returns if this is possible.

I have spoken to her about issues raised on this forum, and that some of you think me a troll (what ever that is) however the issue is about me and her and how we can achieve our aim to be together. We are prepared to wait, but what we do not want to do is wait apart.

Help me achieve this do not criticise me, I am listening

Rob

Posted (edited)

I thought allot about comments made recently on this post, I have decided to go for visit visa; both my fiancée and I can do this without need of visa company. I intend for her to stay the 6 months, after that if she is still happy to become my wife and she is happy to be in England, I will return with her and make the application for fiancée visa.

For the visit visa I would be asking that she is allowed entry for the following reasons.

1: We are a couple who love each other.

2: It would have allowed her time, see if she could be happy in England

3: We would have demonstrated that we have lived together other than me on holiday in Thailand.

4: Gives us more credibility when we go for fiancée visa, thus making the application stronger

5: Reason for return, the only response to that is that I can only guarantee she will return to make an application for fiancée visa. She does not have land or money only family, she will not have a job to go back to but I will support her all the way.

(Questions)

I provide letter of sponsorship stating that I am able to support her whilst she is here.

I provide bank statements and pay slips.

I provide information on accommodation for her visit.

Is it okay for me to say in sponsorship letter that we are in love and that the purpose for visit is to establish that she can be happy here for when we marry?

We intend to have the full 6 months together and I will then return with her to Thailand and immediately put an application in for fiancée visa, I realise that I may still have to return alone but I will be more confident in application after this with no need for Visa Company.

We have been together nearly one year; I have allotted proof of communication and money sent whilst we are apart.

I took note of concerns regarding western men and Thai ladies, however I know I am in love and I realise this could impede my judgement so with this in mind I have decided to do the visit visa, but I need help

I am not sure of all he questions I need to raise yet, but if someone could tell me exactly what I need to provide and what forms we need to submit I would appreciate it.

I am not sure if we can marry on a visit visa but if all goes well, we will get married before she returns if this is possible.

I have spoken to her about issues raised on this forum, and that some of you think me a troll (what ever that is) however the issue is about me and her and how we can achieve our aim to be together. We are prepared to wait but what we do not want to do is wait apart

I need help and advice do not criticise me, I am listening

Rob

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Is it okay for me to say in sponsorship letter that we are in love and that the purpose for visit is to establish that she can be happy here for when we marry?
Yes. Say the purpose of the visit is to meet your family, see if she can adapt to life in the UK and to strengthen the relationship before making the final commitment to marry.
I am not sure of all he questions I need to raise yet, but if someone could tell me exactly what I need to provide and what forms we need to submit I would appreciate it.
See:-

Guidance for Visitors Visa Applications

Guidance - Sponsors (INF 3)

Chapter 10 - Visit entry requirements

Social visit checklist

Application form VAF1 - non-settlement

I am not sure if we can marry on a visit visa but if all goes well, we will get married before she returns if this is possible.
Not possible on a social visit visa. Make it clear in whatever you tell the embassy that she intends to return to Thailand at the end of the visit and then either marry in Thailand and apply for a spouse visa or apply for a fiance visa so she can return to the UK to marry.
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.Not possible on a social visit visa. Make it clear in whatever you tell the embassy that she intends to return to Thailand at the end of the visit and then either marry in Thailand and apply for a spouse visa or apply for a fiance visa so she can return to the UK to marry.

I look at info and I am a little confused! does she have to have money, or is it ok for me to have the money to allow for visit, at the end of the day I will be funding everything, and the only reason for return is for family and the for the enforcement of fiancée visa.

Would this be acceptable for reason to return, Bering in mind that I will be returning with her to endorse this.

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I look at info and I am a little confused! does she have to have money, or is it ok for me to have the money to allow for visit, at the end of the day I will be funding everything,
It is perfectly acceptable for you to fund the entire visit. Just include evidence to show that you can afford to do so, pay slips, bank statements etc. See the check list I linked to previously.

Family is not considered as a reason to return; many Thais travel abroad to work and send money home.

Do not be tempted to pump money into her bank or buy her some land. They will see these for the ploy that they are.

On the face of it, she has no concrete reason to return, so you are relying on the ECO believing that your relationship is genuine and so the reason for the visit is genuine and so she will not do a runner when she's in the UK, but will return to Thailand in order to apply for settlement. So provide as much evidence of this as you can. Phone bills, to show how often you talk; letters and e-mails; photos of the two of you together, taken in different places at different times. In your sponsor's letter briefly describe how and when you met (tell the truth!), how the relationship has developed and what your future plans are.

Remember, if this application fails, it will not have a negative effect on any future settlement application. If anything it could be a positive thing, as they will have on record that your relationship is in existence. Also, if they refuse a visit visa because they believe she will stay in the UK with you, then when she applies for settlement they can't say they don't believe the relationship is genuine.

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You are making things hard for yourself in what will already be a tough call. Forget all the sentiments, they don't care at all if you are or are not in love or any consequences of their actions. So keep it factual only ... no emotions.

Every one says they are madly in love and want their g/f to see the UK . They hear it hourly i would guess. No mileage in that at all.

They are interested in if she has money (no) or what you have to support her, accomodation (usually the easiest bit to satisfy but you do have to prove it not just say it) and if she has a reason to return (none at all except like you said for future applications). She is a marginal case at best here , and you are making this doubly hard by asking for the full 6 months that she would be given . If she would have been given a max of 2 years would you have asked for that? 6 months is not a holiday ...its living together.

What i'm trying not very well to say is that you are going for the maximum you possibly could with what is a very weak case. Why 6 months ....whats wrong with a more normal 5 weeks ? Answer is because its not a holiday its your way of living together and thats not what a visit visa is.

Sounds like i'm being a right b*****d but i'm not like that . I am looking at this through their eyes and seeing what they will see. If you do get it i'll look foolish , but if i was looking for a bet i'd bet you won't . If i'm wrong i'm sorry , but its well intentioned advise

Posted (edited)
I think Fracair is neither troll nor an idiot. I may be wrong, but at the moment I will do him the courtesy of treating him as genuine.
Having been PM'd the link to Fracair's posts on yahoo, and having read them, I was at first still of the above opinion; until I got to this one
Quote:

Originally Posted by attaboy

How did you find out about yahoo.com?

Some guy called Gu22 sent me the URL

I didn't. I've never posted on yahoo.

Fracair, please explain, as i would hate to admit that the gent was right.

Edit: Something in TV's software seems to have changed the name of the site to Yahoo, but you know which one I mean; a door made out of teak.

Edited by GU22
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I think Fracair is neither troll nor an idiot. I may be wrong, but at the moment I will do him the courtesy of treating him as genuine.

Having been PM'd the link to Fracair's posts on yahoo, and having read them, I was at first still of the above opinion; until I got to this one
Quote:

Originally Posted by attaboy

How did you find out about yahoo.com?

Some guy called Gu22 sent me the URL

I didn't. I've never posted on yahoo.

Fracair, please explain, as i would hate to admit that the gent was right.

Edit: Something in TV's software seems to have changed the name of the site to Yahoo, but you know which one I mean; a door made out of teak.

It does not have to be six months at all, sorry if I miss led you, all I know is that is the maximem she is allowed to stay six months. Obviously I want her to stay as long as possible, but how long? she is entiteled to stay 6 months if she has visit visa so why not.

We have all supporting documents to show that we are as we state. If I ask for eight weeks and she and I decide we want longer then what!!

We are prepaired to do what it takes, we will not withhold any infomation, if eight weeks is a good figure then that is what we will apply for.

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Gu22

I have no knowledge of a post on yahoo; I have never posted my comments before, except once in the general forum.

If there is a post it is either similar to mine or is it someone being vindictive, I don’t know!!

Posted

Fracair,

i am still treating this as a genuine post but i have got my doubts. I have come to the opinion that, if you are genuine, you have almost no chance of getting this visa. You have failed to grasp even the basic fundamentals of applying. You both decide how long you want her to visit, you put that down on the application form, and that is the length of time you stay. You don't flip flop between saying ok we'll go for 8 weeks but as she'll get 6 months why can't we stay for that?

Assuming this doesn't get approved on the documents alone (miracles can happen i suppose) your application will be ripped to shreads at interview. Look this is basic stuff...a visit visa is for a holiday.The clue is in the title "visit visa" ..get it ? You seem to have an open ended view of how long that can be . You are looking to live together not a holiday .

If you are genuine i'm sorry for these words and wish you luck.

Its not often i am lost for words, ....but i am right at this moment. GU22 has infinate patience, i think i'll let him deal with this one.

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Fracair,

You both decide how long you want her to visit, you put that down on the application form, and that is the length of time you stay. You don't flip flop between saying ok we'll go for 8 weeks but as she'll get 6 months why can't we stay for that?

She is my fiancée I wish for her to have time here in England with me, to meet my family, work colleagues and friends, to get a feel for England by living with me in my apartment.

How long a holiday is good to apply for!

Do I need to buy the airline ticket for her before she gets visa, bearing in mind she may not be given a visa! I had planed to purchase ticket directly she receives visa.

Can you appeal if visa is refused, providing we can satisfy the reason for refusal, If it comes down to intention to return, I can only guarantee that she does on the basis of not stuffing up a future application, we maybe able to get her employer to give a letter stating her job will be held open for her, she has no property or land.

When she returns can we then apply for fiancée visa right away or does she have to wait for visit visa to expire.

All other documentation outlined in the visit checklist can and will be supplied. We have been together now nearly a year; we have a lot of documentation to prove this.

Posted

Say how long she wants to stay. If 1 week, say that. If 6 months say that.

The official advice from the Embassy is to not buy the ticket until she has the visa.

Social visit visa refusals, which this is, cannot be appealed.

She can apply for her settlement visa at any time, even if her visit visa has not yet expired. She must return to Thailand to do so.

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