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[NigelKennedy]

Have tried many massage places

some had mosquitos others long waiting time etc. Can anyone recommend someone who will come to the house in Chiang Kiang to do

2 hour that massage. Thanks

[northernjohn]

I am very sure you will get some suggestions. Just remember some people prefer it a little different than you do. They will be good but not always the way you prefer it.

I would suggest you approach one who you know does it just rite for you and speak to them about it.

Just a suggestion.

[taotoo]

I am very sure you will get some suggestions. Just remember some people prefer it a little different than you do. They will be good but not always the way you prefer it.

I would suggest you approach one who you know does it just rite for you and speak to them about it.

Just a suggestion.

Personally I don't care how they do it for the first 1h 57m.

[cyberfarang]

If you are in the Chiang Kiang road, there are scores of massage parlours along that route.

Just get on your bike and ask them yourself. Once you find one willing to oblige then it should be possible to make regular appointments with them.

[pgrahmm]

I am very sure you will get some suggestions. Just remember some people prefer it a little different than you do. They will be good but not always the way you prefer it.

I would suggest you approach one who you know does it just rite for you and speak to them about it.

Just a suggestion.

Personally I don't care how they do it for the first 1h 57m.

From Japan?

[WinnieTheKhwai]

Chiang Kiang

It appears the OP doesn't know where he lives?

A common Farlung condition.

[Konini]

I think this whole subject is part of a common problem. Many of the people doing massage aren't trained for more than 3 months to get their certificate. Some people are naturals, some people have been doing it for many years and know what works and what doesn't, some people are quite highly qualified by Thai standards but just aren't that good. As NJ said, it's a personal thing. Personally, I won't let anyone near my back unless they have a certificate saying that they are an orthopedic surgeon - a very highly qualified physio in Australia who worked with one of the teams at the Sydney Olympics compounded my existing problems to the point where I had to have back surgery, have a hole where one of my vertebra should be, have no sensation from buttocks to foot and my 3 smallest toes and will always walk with a slight limp, which gets much worse if I try to run or have too much to drink - I drag one leg along the ground and move like Quasimodo because it's quicker and easier to get to where I'm going. An extreme case but I worked next door to a physio and twice in 5 years saw an ambulance wheel someone out of his rooms.

The other thing is everyone wants something different. Some want a deep tissue massage, some want a Thai massage, some want a Swedish massage (whatever that is, I have no idea but see it advertised often) and some want an oil massage - either gentle and relaxing or hard. Mr K has become disillusioned with his masseur of the last 6 years and found another one on a recommendation. An older lady, it's always difficult to judge age with Asian people, but the wrong side of 60 I'd say. He tried a lot of different ones before finding her though. He's talked in general terms to her about payment, and as far as he can tell half of what he pays goes to the shop and half to her. I don't know if this is common or not, I naively thought that they would be on a salary. I've suggested to him that he mention home visits, where she would get the full amount but he is uncomfortable about asking. I said he could reassure her that I would be home at all times and they could just half close the door in one of the spare bedrooms so there would be no interruptions.

So my suggestion would be to find a good one who does what you want the way you want it and ask. My question is how would this go down? Is it appropriate to ask something like that? Out of earshot of anyone obviously.

[anto]

>>Personally I don't care how they do it for the first 1h 57m.<<.......2 hours is far too long to have some old hag toss around your body .There are better options out there .

[Awk]

Mr K has become disillusioned with his masseur of the last 6 years and found another one on a recommendation. An older lady, it's always difficult to judge age with Asian people, but the wrong side of 60 I'd say. He tried a lot of different ones before finding her though. He's talked in general terms to her about payment, and as far as he can tell half of what he pays goes to the shop and half to her. I don't know if this is common or not, I naively thought that they would be on a salary. I've suggested to him that he mention home visits, where she would get the full amount but he is uncomfortable about asking. I said he could reassure her that I would be home at all times and they could just half close the door in one of the spare bedrooms so there would be no interruptions.

So my suggestion would be to find a good one who does what you want the way you want it and ask. My question is how would this go down? Is it appropriate to ask something like that? Out of earshot of anyone obviously.

Virtually anyone will do a home visit if your place is not too far away and you do not give of the creepy vibe. No-one will find the question strange or unusual either. If he makes a big deal out of asking for a home visit, that might just set of the creepy alarm though.

And yes, half, or less, of the massage price usually goes to the worker, the rest to the shop. Apart from higher-end spas, nobody will be on a salary I think.

It's best to ask out of earshot of anyone. If he books her through the shop, she will still only get part of the money, though the first time he might want to do it through the shop to alleviate any worries on her part.

Edited April 11, 2016 by Awk

[Sparkles]

No massage shop owner is going to let its staff take a couple of hours off and not expect to receive at least half the charge.

You will have to be very discreet about it AFTER you find someone who does a good massage and is prepared to travel after hours or on their day off

if you want a cheaper price.

The majority will do hotel visits, add min 100 baht. Private homes /apartments might be a different situation unless they know you well and their is some mutual trust.

You don't mention where you have experienced a waiting time,that is quite unusual and we are now almost in the low season.

[Rancid]

>>Personally I don't care how they do it for the first 1h 57m.<<.......2 hours is far too long to have some old hag toss around your body .There are better options out there .

2 hours is just right, especially when getting a solid massage.

Rather ostentatious boasting about your 3 minutes, still gives me a goal to build up to I suppose.

[Social Media]

Wouldnt have a "Thai" massage if it was free ! Potentially very dangerous, those that I have seen and encountered clearly have no understanding of human anatomy or regard for the persons health.

[eyecatcher]

I think this whole subject is part of a common problem. Many of the people doing massage aren't trained for more than 3 months to get their certificate. Some people are naturals, some people have been doing it for many years and know what works and what doesn't, some people are quite highly qualified by Thai standards but just aren't that good. As NJ said, it's a personal thing. Personally, I won't let anyone near my back unless they have a certificate saying that they are an orthopedic surgeon - a very highly qualified physio in Australia who worked with one of the teams at the Sydney Olympics compounded my existing problems to the point where I had to have back surgery, have a hole where one of my vertebra should be, have no sensation from buttocks to foot and my 3 smallest toes and will always walk with a slight limp, which gets much worse if I try to run or have too much to drink - I drag one leg along the ground and move like Quasimodo because it's quicker and easier to get to where I'm going. An extreme case but I worked next door to a physio and twice in 5 years saw an ambulance wheel someone out of his rooms.

The other thing is everyone wants something different. Some want a deep tissue massage, some want a Thai massage, some want a Swedish massage (whatever that is, I have no idea but see it advertised often) and some want an oil massage - either gentle and relaxing or hard. Mr K has become disillusioned with his masseur of the last 6 years and found another one on a recommendation. An older lady, it's always difficult to judge age with Asian people, but the wrong side of 60 I'd say. He tried a lot of different ones before finding her though. He's talked in general terms to her about payment, and as far as he can tell half of what he pays goes to the shop and half to her. I don't know if this is common or not, I naively thought that they would be on a salary. I've suggested to him that he mention home visits, where she would get the full amount but he is uncomfortable about asking. I said he could reassure her that I would be home at all times and they could just half close the door in one of the spare bedrooms so there would be no interruptions.

So my suggestion would be to find a good one who does what you want the way you want it and ask. My question is how would this go down? Is it appropriate to ask something like that? Out of earshot of anyone obviously.

excellent post Konini...........its all about personal preference; just like food.

To allay your fears on discretion, let me just put the record straight about the therapists and where they belong.

It is rare, and i mean very rare if you can find a salaried therapist. there are not many and belong to the top end spas such as Oasis, Rarinjinda, 4 seasons, Cheeva. they are about the only companies that can afford to salary their staff.

Everyone else is freelance, self employed, they are not affiliated to anyone albeit you may see the same girls (or boys) there each time you go.

They are simply "sitting on standby", phone in hand waiting for a call for a job. they often pick a massage or spa to sit at all day for any number of reasons.

so like me a massage business can run for years without any staff, or conversely i could say i employ 35 ladies and 15 boys and 3 ladyboys, take your pick both are true.

The advantage for the business is that they only pay for the time they work, so they are simply hourly paid whether you spend 200bt on a Thai massage or 800bt on a hilltribe coffee body scrub. (i am aware of many cheaper establishments that appear to pay thier staff 50/50 and thats why those businesses either go bust or have to be very very busy)

So next time Mr K is out and about, really its no ones business other than the therapists what is discussed about external working.

If we were asked, and have been several times if we can send ladies to a hotel room we would always refuse. a phone call to our place kind of makes us responsible and I have a sixth sense when drunks call late at night.

If i am asked about other services, i generally take the man outside and politely tell him to head towards Loy kroh,

If the wife is asked, she quite plainly makes ascene and embarrasses him.tells him in front of everyone that nothing like that goes on here, and he should be ashamed of himself and if you suggest this again she will call the police....

[eyecatcher]

Wouldnt have a "Thai" massage if it was free ! Potentially very dangerous, those that I have seen and encountered clearly have no understanding of human anatomy or regard for the persons health.

If you wouldnt have one , how is that you have seen and encountered?

Your post is a bit dramatic but also partly true. These therapists are not practitioners (maybe 3 in 100 have an understanding of anatomy) and yes I agree most have no clue about how to deal with someones sciatica, or tennis elbow or leg muscle pain from yesterdays mountain climb.

I have had hundreds of massages as you would expect, testing them out for one. Thai massage requires by far the most skill, it is the cheapest, the hardest to perform and the customer has to be prepared for some pain if they are not used to it.

Try going to a cheap shop and asking for Thai, no one wants to do it because they dont know how....they want the oil job,better paid and the easiest way to get that "last 3 minutes"

If a customers does not speak up and say they have a promprem here or here, then thats their promprem therapists are not magician with magic fingers; like a doctor they should act on symptoms and a conversation of where it hurts.

The first sign of trouble, always; is your body indicating PAIN, thats your defence. if you go through pain just to show off and be brave and then realise two days later you cannot walk, then who is the numpty for not opening their mouth when its getting painful.

potentiually dangerous??? i think not....unless you allow it to be,

[Social Media]

Wouldnt have a "Thai" massage if it was free ! Potentially very dangerous, those that I have seen and encountered clearly have no understanding of human anatomy or regard for the persons health.

If you wouldnt have one , how is that you have seen and encountered?

Your post is a bit dramatic but also partly true. These therapists are not practitioners (maybe 3 in 100 have an understanding of anatomy) and yes I agree most have no clue about how to deal with someones sciatica, or tennis elbow or leg muscle pain from yesterdays mountain climb.

I have had hundreds of massages as you would expect, testing them out for one. Thai massage requires by far the most skill, it is the cheapest, the hardest to perform and the customer has to be prepared for some pain if they are not used to it.

Try going to a cheap shop and asking for Thai, no one wants to do it because they dont know how....they want the oil job,better paid and the easiest way to get that "last 3 minutes"

If a customers does not speak up and say they have a promprem here or here, then thats their promprem therapists are not magician with magic fingers; like a doctor they should act on symptoms and a conversation of where it hurts.

The first sign of trouble, always; is your body indicating PAIN, thats your defence. if you go through pain just to show off and be brave and then realise two days later you cannot walk, then who is the numpty for not opening their mouth when its getting painful.

potentiually dangerous??? i think not....unless you allow it to be,

I wouldnt have one because I have "had" one in the past, (and witnessed them whilst having a foot massage) and stopped it proceeding, as any one with a degree of common sense or knowledge of anatomy knows that under no circumstances do you apply direct pressure over or to the spinal vertebrae. Nor do you flex joints at inappropriate angles without at least doing a little pre-procedural enquiries and checking for contra-indications, as a "professional" would do. Your comment of "prepared for some pain" is in my opinion , nonsense, mild muscular discomfort possibly in some cases but pain? absolutely not. Magicians? no, but competent "therapist" they are absolutely not, many have just watched their mate for a few days and go from there.

I dont doubt there may be some more suitably qualified and effective practitioners out there, but I suggest they are very few and far between. Old addage, you get what you pay for, and for a few hundred baht, it isnt really that surprising is it.

"potentiually dangerous??? i think not....unless you allow it to be,"....by lying down and allowing her to touch you, you are "allowing" exactly that, and the wrong pressure in the wrong place, and potentially, you wouldnt be able to breath, in the thorasic section, and in the lumbar section, you may not walk again, and yes , that is totally possible in some circumstances.

Edited April 11, 2016 by Black Ops

[northernjohn]

Wouldnt have a "Thai" massage if it was free ! Potentially very dangerous, those that I have seen and encountered clearly have no understanding of human anatomy or regard for the persons health.

If you wouldnt have one , how is that you have seen and encountered?

Your post is a bit dramatic but also partly true. These therapists are not practitioners (maybe 3 in 100 have an understanding of anatomy) and yes I agree most have no clue about how to deal with someones sciatica, or tennis elbow or leg muscle pain from yesterdays mountain climb.

I have had hundreds of massages as you would expect, testing them out for one. Thai massage requires by far the most skill, it is the cheapest, the hardest to perform and the customer has to be prepared for some pain if they are not used to it.

Try going to a cheap shop and asking for Thai, no one wants to do it because they dont know how....they want the oil job,better paid and the easiest way to get that "last 3 minutes"

If a customers does not speak up and say they have a promprem here or here, then thats their promprem therapists are not magician with magic fingers; like a doctor they should act on symptoms and a conversation of where it hurts.

The first sign of trouble, always; is your body indicating PAIN, thats your defence. if you go through pain just to show off and be brave and then realise two days later you cannot walk, then who is the numpty for not opening their mouth when its getting painful.

potentiually dangerous??? i think not....unless you allow it to be,

Lot of different opinions here. My wife has a certificate saying she has over 372 hours of training. Does that make her a professional? I like what you said about some of them hanging around waiting for a job. My wife no longer works as I take care of all her needs yet she will spend time at a couple of the spa's just visiting. They are also a very sociable lot who enjoy talking.

I was seeing a professional massage therapist in Canada who had two years of schooling. She told me it took her a year to be able to palpitate where the muscles needed it. They with training can tell. If you want a real massage it is going to be a little on the painful side.

I once made the mistake at the Blind massage in the old city in what is Loi Kroh east of the moat. They asked me if I wanted a gentle one or a medium one. I said medium. Never make that mistake again.

[true blue]

been here 15 years in los and never ever had a thai massage.had plenty of masseuer come to my room though.

[WorkingTourist]

In the Changklan area I prefer the Relax & Refresh massage shop on Sridonchai Road just west of Whole Earth.

Dont know if they do outcalls, but if you ask, I am sure they will not take it the wrong way, as there should be little doubt that this place is not about providing extras.

Around the corner (on Changklan Rd.) there is Maesalong Massage which do outcalls for a 100 baht surcharge. Most of their staff do an excellent job.

[piewarmer]

Over the years I have found many ex employees of the Hi-So spa's and hotels working in the cheaper shops around the night market area, most are over 35 but they know their stuff, many are freelance and I'm sure they will do a visit in their own time.

They usually leave the upmarket shops because the bosses wont give them any time off.

Edited April 12, 2016 by piewarmer

[Konini]

Over the years I have found many ex employees of the Hi-So spa's and hotels working in the cheaper shops around the night market area, most are over 35 but they know their stuff, many are freelance and I'm sure they will do a visit in their own time.

They usually leave the upmarket shops because the bosses wont give them any time off.

Mr K won't go to a young one. His last one was well into her 50's and this new one is much older but, he tells me, as strong as an ox. And she always knows when he's upped the weights he's lifting at the gym.

You can have all the uni degrees in the world, but nothing beats natural talent and experience.