Is anyone else finding it hard to sleep in this horrible heat?

[CLW]

What I noticed some people set the AC temp very low. It's not useful, unhealthy and adds up to a high electricity bill.

Its not useful? What do you mean by that? What is unhealthy about air conditioning?

Like setting it below 25°C, 24hrs, and go outside you'll likely to sweating like hell, if not fainting, because you're used to this low temperature.

[1BADDAT]

What I noticed some people set the AC temp very low. It's not useful, unhealthy and adds up to a high electricity bill.

Its not useful? What do you mean by that? What is unhealthy about air conditioning?

Like setting it below 25°C, 24hrs, and go outside you'll likely to sweating like hell, if not fainting, because you're used to this low temperature.

Sitting in my office now and its set to 23. Driving home I run the AC the whole time about the same. When I get home I set it to 22. When I sleep I set it to 20. I don't sweat much anymore (after living here 2 years) and the only time I have gotten near fainting was doing hard labor bending re-bar all day out in the hot sun doing construction. I don't think there is any scientific evidence to suport your claims. It does go well to support an economic argument for saving money though.

[JohnDodd]

It is hot and humid here in KK as I am sitting typing this its 35c not that hot as some of you. I have no A/C and I sleep well every night, quick shower before retiring, just rub excess water from body, shake of talc. and into the mozzy net with fan blowing across damp body. No problem, I did the same when working as a seaman, am well used to tropical weather. Better than cloud and fog.

[jossthaifarang]

Cooler country perhaps?

[CLW]

What I noticed some people set the AC temp very low. It's not useful, unhealthy and adds up to a high electricity bill.

Its not useful? What do you mean by that? What is unhealthy about air conditioning?

Like setting it below 25°C, 24hrs, and go outside you'll likely to sweating like hell, if not fainting, because you're used to this low temperature.

Sitting in my office now and its set to 23. Driving home I run the AC the whole time about the same. When I get home I set it to 22. When I sleep I set it to 20. I don't sweat much anymore (after living here 2 years) and the only time I have gotten near fainting was doing hard labor bending re-bar all day out in the hot sun doing construction. I don't think there is any scientific evidence to suport your claims. It does go well to support an economic argument for saving money though.

http://profhkverma.info/?q=ACTemperatureSettings

[Suradit69]

Have the AC blowing on the bed at around 24 C all night, every night of the year (apart from the cold snaps) and you'll sleep well whatever the temp.

if you live where ac can escape, then fix the problem.

Just about never use the A/C. Use a ceiling fan or fan on a stand at the foot of the bed. 15th floor near the sea in Pattaya. Almost always a breeze and indoor temps seldom above 34 ° . As long as there's air movement, no problem for me. Only ran the A/C two days so far this year and that was mostly to muffle Songkran related street sounds.

I find the temps in places like Family Mart or Fuji restaurants or even Bangkok Pattaya Hospital uncomfortably cold.

Edited April 29, 2016 by Suradit69

[tukkytuktuk]

Aye lad, but I found if yer install air conditioning yer room suddenly cools and yer can sleep. It's great technology eh?

I had the air on last night and cheeky me put a portable fan on as well. Bye, it weren't half cold, I dreamt I was back home milking cows.

Edited April 29, 2016 by tukkytuktuk

[Suradit69]

Aye lad, but I found if yer install air conditioning yer room suddenly cools and yer can sleep. It's great technology eh?

I had the air on last night and cheeky me put a portable fan on as well. Bye, it weren't half cold, I dreamt I was back home milking cows.

"I dreamt I was back home milking cows. "

Freud would have a field day with that.

[cyberfarang]

haven't used aircon for two months now...just have a fan and windows open both at the back of the appt and at the balcony. Through breeze and the fan is fine.

The air where I live is scorching hot. Yesterday went out on my motorbike and although well covered the skin on my neck and hands began to burn. It felt like my head was cooking underneath the helmet. It`s been hot before but never scorching like this. It`s the same with the breeze blowing in through the open windows, like being blasted by a fan heater, could actually get fried laying on my bed.

I`m not keen on the air conditioner either, they dry my throat after too long being expose to them. So I bought 2 of those portable evaporative coolers that blast ice cold air across the room and they are brilliant. Only drawback is they are a bit noisy, but I can tolerate that when the situation gets desperate.

Details here

http://www.priceza.com/s/%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%B2/%E0%B8%9E%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%94%E0%B8%A5%E0%B8%A1-%E0%B9%84%E0%B8%AD%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%A2%E0%B9%87%E0%B8%99-MASTERKOOL-I-KOOL-25-EXN-%E0%B8%99%E0%B9%89%E0%B8%B3%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%87%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%99

[1BADDAT]

Like setting it below 25°C, 24hrs, and go outside you'll likely to sweating like hell, if not fainting, because you're used to this low temperature.

Sitting in my office now and its set to 23. Driving home I run the AC the whole time about the same. When I get home I set it to 22. When I sleep I set it to 20. I don't sweat much anymore (after living here 2 years) and the only time I have gotten near fainting was doing hard labor bending re-bar all day out in the hot sun doing construction. I don't think there is any scientific evidence to suport your claims. It does go well to support an economic argument for saving money though.

http://profhkverma.info/?q=ACTemperatureSettings

The article you linked does not contain anything related to your theory about sweating and fainting. The author is an engineer, not a doctor in the medical field. Only one of the four areas the author focuses on is health and the points he made are questionable.

A – Health [Reference 1]

Prolonged exposure to temperatures below 23 degree celcius (23^oC) can trigger a respiratory illness.

So what about the millions and millions of people that live in environments where the room temperature without AC is below 23C?

Switching suddenly from a hot and humid outdoor to an extremely cold and dry room, or vice a versa, can cause serious health problems.

If this was true, everyone in Alaska and the Artic circle would be dead.

It is suspected that air conditioning plays a major role even in the soaring obesity rates in the modern society.

The best temperature setting of your Room A.C. for your Health as well as Comfort is

24^OC to 27^OC !!!

At the same time, you will avoid huge wastage of Money and protect the Environment too.

I mentioned that these points are often made to support an economic argument. You have proven that with this article. It is clear that his agenda is from economic and environmental perspective.

[CLW]

Like setting it below 25°C, 24hrs, and go outside you'll likely to sweating like hell, if not fainting, because you're used to this low temperature.

Sitting in my office now and its set to 23. Driving home I run the AC the whole time about the same. When I get home I set it to 22. When I sleep I set it to 20. I don't sweat much anymore (after living here 2 years) and the only time I have gotten near fainting was doing hard labor bending re-bar all day out in the hot sun doing construction. I don't think there is any scientific evidence to suport your claims. It does go well to support an economic argument for saving money though.

http://profhkverma.info/?q=ACTemperatureSettings

The article you linked does not contain anything related to your theory about sweating and fainting. The author is an engineer, not a doctor in the medical field. Only one of the four areas the author focuses on is health and the points he made are questionable.

A – Health [Reference 1]

Prolonged exposure to temperatures below 23 degree celcius (23^oC) can trigger a respiratory illness.

So what about the millions and millions of people that live in environments where the room temperature without AC is below 23C?

Switching suddenly from a hot and humid outdoor to an extremely cold and dry room, or vice a versa, can cause serious health problems.

If this was true, everyone in Alaska and the Artic circle would be dead.

It is suspected that air conditioning plays a major role even in the soaring obesity rates in the modern society.

The best temperature setting of your Room A.C. for your Health as well as Comfort is

24^OC to 27^OC !!!

At the same time, you will avoid huge wastage of Money and protect the Environment too.

I mentioned that these points are often made to support an economic argument. You have proven that with this article. It is clear that his agenda is from economic and environmental perspective.

Up to you.

Your health and your money.

If you re-read this post some mentioned about the sweating theory already.

[Thaijack2014]

Just a matter of habbit. I'm happy with our aircon, which is set on a cool 29 degrees Celsius. No problems here.....

[marko kok prong]

Just scanning through yesterdays temps,and i think the all time record may have been broken with Mae Hong Song at44.6c,or equalled.

[kannot]

No Im not finding it hard to sleep air at 26c day and night outside 40c+

[buythisdashcam]

Cool the room at maximum before sleeping and stop it, a fan is then enough. I also find ridiculous not to be able to sleep with an aircon, even set at 28 (only retarded put it cooler as it is of course not useful).

[sanukjim]

You have a mental or sleep problem.If you can't the heat here go elsewhere for a month or two to a cooler place.Next step GO HOME.

[kannot]

haven't used aircon for two months now...just have a fan and windows open both at the back of the appt and at the balcony. Through breeze and the fan is fine.

The air where I live is scorching hot. Yesterday went out on my motorbike and although well covered the skin on my neck and hands began to burn. It felt like my head was cooking underneath the helmet. It`s been hot before but never scorching like this. It`s the same with the breeze blowing in through the open windows, like being blasted by a fan heater, could actually get fried laying on my bed.

I`m not keen on the air conditioner either, they dry my throat after too long being expose to them. So I bought 2 of those portable evaporative coolers that blast ice cold air across the room and they are brilliant. Only drawback is they are a bit noisy, but I can tolerate that when the situation gets desperate.

Details here

http://www.priceza.com/s/%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%B2/%E0%B8%9E%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%94%E0%B8%A5%E0%B8%A1-%E0%B9%84%E0%B8%AD%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%A2%E0%B9%87%E0%B8%99-MASTERKOOL-I-KOOL-25-EXN-%E0%B8%99%E0%B9%89%E0%B8%B3%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%87%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%99

How do they blow ice cold air ?

[tolsti]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evaporative_cooler here you go Kannot

[CLW]

Some have a space where you can put ice for cold air.

But generally as the ambient air is very humid their effect goes almost to zero.

Same written in the Wikipedia above

[totally thaied up]

I have two purifiers in my bedroom, a negative ion generator and a decent aircon.

I also leave a bucket of salted water in a corner as well. I have had sleep problems in the past and a sleep specialist I saw back in Australia told me to have an ambient room temperature of 18.5 degrees at night when I sleep.

My aircon and power bill is 3200 baht a month so it is okay but I sleep every night with the air conditioning preset to come on an hour before I go to bed.

Going to the gym each day has been hell here in Chiang Mai and I am thinking of finding an air cooler for downstairs to sit in front of while I play with the computer and watch TV.

My partner has been losing business as her shop is not air conditioned but in time, we are hoping to buy the place when our rental contract comes due in 6 months time and if that happens, we will do a full renovation job.

[Ulic]

Air con set at 27c and I sleep like a baby. All good.

[CLW]

I have two purifiers in my bedroom, a negative ion generator and a decent aircon.

I also leave a bucket of salted water in a corner as well. I have had sleep problems in the past and a sleep specialist I saw back in Australia told me to have an ambient room temperature of 18.5 degrees at night when I sleep.

My aircon and power bill is 3200 baht a month so it is okay but I sleep every night with the air conditioning preset to come on an hour before I go to bed.

Going to the gym each day has been hell here in Chiang Mai and I am thinking of finding an air cooler for downstairs to sit in front of while I play with the computer and watch TV.

My partner has been losing business as her shop is not air conditioned but in time, we are hoping to buy the place when our rental contract comes due in 6 months time and if that happens, we will do a full renovation job.

Did you tell the sleeping specialist that you live in Thailand, hardly to expect these temperatures anywhere in the country.

Maybe you should consider moving to a more suitable country regarding the temperatures.

[Kabula]

Set a/c on automatic, fan high, 28-30, if you have that option.

The temp will be maintained somewhat.

Have a separate fan in room on low pointing close to you, but not on you to circulate the cold air.

Take a shower before going to sleep and drink a full glass of water to prevent dehydration. Extra fluids also are good for the kidneys and heart while you sleep. Prevents stokes in some cases.

Some say the blue light from devices just before going to sleep can be a problem getting to sleep for some.

Limit coffee and alcohol in late afternoon and evening as they create sleep problems as well.

Hot bed companions can also interrupt sleep.

You have just removed the impetus for 99% of expats to be here.

Most expats are not alcoholics! Everything in moderation for a long life.

Afternoon sessions with hot bed companions will elimate most late night wake sleep disruptions.

With the worldwide economic retreat, combined with the sounds of endless worldwide, serious, war drums, if there not here already; most in time will not be to leave their home countries in my opinion.

Edited April 29, 2016 by Kabula

[kannot]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evaporative_cooler here you go Kannot

Oh I know how they work which is why I find blowing "ice cold air" unrealistic, especially in a humid country like Thailand + you would have to put so much ice in the electric bill to make it would be enormous

[kannot]

Some have a space where you can put ice for cold air.

But generally as the ambient air is very humid their effect goes almost to zero.

Same written in the Wikipedia above

exactly, the ice would be gone in no time at all and the effect almost unoticeable

[cyberfarang]

haven't used aircon for two months now...just have a fan and windows open both at the back of the appt and at the balcony. Through breeze and the fan is fine.

The air where I live is scorching hot. Yesterday went out on my motorbike and although well covered the skin on my neck and hands began to burn. It felt like my head was cooking underneath the helmet. It`s been hot before but never scorching like this. It`s the same with the breeze blowing in through the open windows, like being blasted by a fan heater, could actually get fried laying on my bed.

I`m not keen on the air conditioner either, they dry my throat after too long being expose to them. So I bought 2 of those portable evaporative coolers that blast ice cold air across the room and they are brilliant. Only drawback is they are a bit noisy, but I can tolerate that when the situation gets desperate.

Details here

http://www.priceza.com/s/%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%B2/%E0%B8%9E%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%94%E0%B8%A5%E0%B8%A1-%E0%B9%84%E0%B8%AD%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%A2%E0%B9%87%E0%B8%99-MASTERKOOL-I-KOOL-25-EXN-%E0%B8%99%E0%B9%89%E0%B8%B3%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%87%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%99

How do they blow ice cold air ?

They have a large water tank at the bottom that has to be filled with water up to a certain level, ice cubes can be added to the water if wanting extra cold. Immersed in the water is a fixed water pump similar to that used in fish ponds. At the top of the unit is an 18in fan. Below that are several levels of honey comb like structures with a cold unit inside. The pumped water flows over the cold honey comb structures and the ice cold water vapor is blown out by the fan. Well something like that anyway but think you`ll get the drift of it.

[connda]

Not when my A/C is on.

[tolsti]

There is a thread on here that displays and comments on the effectiveness of this type of cooler. Basically they work in certain humidity levels and don't in others. But I can't be bothered to look for it.... Over to you guys.

[cyberfarang]

There is a thread on here that displays and comments on the effectiveness of this type of cooler. Basically they work in certain humidity levels and don't in others. But I can't be bothered to look for it.... Over to you guys.

For me these are the best inventions since sliced bread. Go to bed at night or during the day, put the cooler on to low or medium level and the room is comfortably cool and I sleep like a baby. Only 2 drawbacks is that the water runs out after about 3 hours and has to be topped up again and they do intend to be noisy. Unlike air conditioning windows and doors do not have to be closed and they are on wheels and can be moved anywhere with ease, also they do not consume a lot of electricity like air con.

I describe these units as being an in-between solution for fans and air conditioning and found that since this hot weather started I`ve had no reason to switch on the air con in my bedroom after I bought the portable evaporative coolers. I strongly recommend these coolers.

[tonray]

There is a thread on here that displays and comments on the effectiveness of this type of cooler. Basically they work in certain humidity levels and don't in others. But I can't be bothered to look for it.... Over to you guys.

For me these are the best inventions since sliced bread. Go to bed at night or during the day, put the cooler on to low or medium level and the room is comfortably cool and I sleep like a baby. Only 2 drawbacks is that the water runs out after about 3 hours and has to be topped up again and they do intend to be noisy. Unlike air conditioning windows and doors do not have to be closed and they are on wheels and can be moved anywhere with ease, also they do not consume a lot of electricity like air con.

I describe these units as being an in-between solution for fans and air conditioning and found that since this hot weather started I`ve had no reason to switch on the air con in my bedroom after I bought the portable evaporative coolers. I strongly recommend these coolers.

What is power consumption compared with AC units ? I know even my big 18 inch fan starts sucking down some power when used all day and I think maybe I should just go the extra mile and crank the AC.