webfact Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Cheating students to be banned for life in medical professionBANGKOK: -- Rangsit University will submit names of three students caught cheating in the entrance of examination to the Medical Council of Thailand to ban them for life in the medical profession.The move came as the university said it was also preparing to file civil lawsuit to demand compensation for damages caused to the university’s image and the entrance examination sat by over 3,000 applicants but was forced to scrap after cheating were detected.The university plans to schedule new entrance examination, possibly on June 4 and 5.The university’s deputy rector Nares Pantaratorn said cheating was detected on the first day of the entrance examination on May 7.The university then plotted to capture cheaters the next day.He said three applicants were hired to sit for the exam, two of them wearing glasses installed with miature video cameras.Another was assigned to transmit all data to tutors who also are university students.They were hired 6,000 baht each, he said.On the first day, they were able to transmit the exam papers.The exam papers were taken by hired applicants and transmitted to tutors gathered in a room of a place to resolve.It took these tutors not much time to finish all answers and sent them back to the hiring applicants wearing the smart watches.The deputy rector said “we found that it was the last 30 minutes of the exam that the hirers would spend to write down all answers in the exam.”The university also revealed the captured glass with miniature camera and smart watches at yesterday’s press conference.The video footage taken by the camera glasses showed the first moment the hired applicant walked into the exam room and all the pages of the exam papers.The hired applicant spent just 45 minutes to capture all pages of the exam papers before leaving the exam room, thus prompting suspicion of his behaviour that led to the detection of the cheats. Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/content/162669 -- Thai PBS 2016-05-10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhizBang Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Bravo, for once the right decision has been made. Of course, we will have to wait and see if the decision sticks. I don't think that the university has to worry about it's image, as in this case they actually did the right thing and without the usual lengthy delays. If anything, their actions in this case should enhance their image. But this being Thailand, a university that does not tolerate cheating may not go down well with the locals. Going after all involved for monetary damages is also the right thing to do, so bravo again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just1Voice Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 There's gonna be some rich, and very unhappy daddy's over this one. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinisaan Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 The university then plotted to capture cheaters the next day.He said three applicants were hired to sit for the exam, two of them wearing glasses installed with miature video cameras.Another was assigned to transmit all data to tutors who also are university students. The video footage taken by the camera glasses showed the first moment the hired applicant walked into the exam room and all the pages of the exam papers. Never underestimate others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tirekicker Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 No problem they will just change their name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinisaan Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 There's gonna be some rich, and very unhappy daddy's over this one. lol No problem for the rich ones. They can change their names and start over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selftaopath Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Bravo, for once the right decision has been made. Of course, we will have to wait and see if the decision sticks. I don't think that the university has to worry about it's image, as in this case they actually did the right thing and without the usual lengthy delays. If anything, their actions in this case should enhance their image. But this being Thailand, a university that does not tolerate cheating may not go down well with the locals. Going after all involved for monetary damages is also the right thing to do, so bravo again. Now if only the same approach could be used for politicians, govt. officials, teachers, police, etc. Now that would enhance Thailand's image I imagine I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinalblue Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Why are not policies already in place? One of the big problems in LOS is the lack of anticipation so rules are made as they go along and the rules might or might not be enforced... We always like to blame the student or person for the lack of integrity but the system is equally at fault.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkokfrog Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Another was assigned to transmit all data to tutors who also are university students. While I applaud the action, as usual only half the solution. Why no talk of expelling the tutors and also banning them from the medical profession for life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaltsc Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 (edited) "Rangsit University will submit names of three students caught cheating in the entrance of examination to the Medical Council of Thailand to ban them for life in the medical profession." They were immediately hired by government agencies where their talent and lack of ethics could be put to much better use. Edited May 10, 2016 by jaltsc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Nice start! Now move on to MBAs followed by political science majors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisemonkey Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 If that applied to China, there would be no doctors in the country! (I teach uni in China) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterwhisper Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 "...to ban them for life in the medical profession." Fine. In that case they can all become politicians. It's even more lucrative and they can put their cheating skills to use without fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 As others have said, the cheaters only need to change their name. Very common and easy to do in Thailand. Unless there is a database of criminals but I doubt that such a list exists anyway. In this case there is no police action, so they won't be on a list anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crosthwaite Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 To prevent the cheaters from coming back, it might be a good idea to just take a 1/2 inch chunk of flesh from everyones left ear, like what they do with cattle and other farm animals. They should be easier to spot after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Flint Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Well Pryut has asked for more innovation, maybe they took it a bit far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinisaan Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Bravo, for once the right decision has been made. Of course, we will have to wait and see if the decision sticks. I don't think that the university has to worry about it's image, as in this case they actually did the right thing and without the usual lengthy delays. If anything, their actions in this case should enhance their image. But this being Thailand, a university that does not tolerate cheating may not go down well with the locals. Going after all involved for monetary damages is also the right thing to do, so bravo again. Now if only the same approach could be used for politicians, govt. officials, teachers, police, etc. Now that would enhance Thailand's image I imagine I believe. Mate/dude/buddy, it seems that you've forgotten a huge group of people. The farangs in this country...... What about all the guys who fell/fall in love with a "I love you too much bar girl", then spend/ spent all their money/savings/pensions ,etc.... just to find out that they don't even get some cash for the house(s), car(s), motorbike(s) and other bs back, once they find out that they're only ATM's on two feet. I strongly believe that especially older people should receive immediate help when they go/get ripped off by their spouses. I'm doing some volunteer work for an institution with an office in Bangkok and whenever there's a problem in my area I'm trying to solve some sometimes very strange issues. Unfortunately, are mostly the gambling/jabba dabba doo/ jaa ice wives/partners the reason for their penniless lives. Is it Dieland, Lieland, or Whyland, the place others also call Thailand with all the Thainess around you? It's already that weird that not even Thais understand the meaning of certain smiles anymore. And a general who strongly believes that foreign girls/women ( many of them have a to save money for a whole year to be able to fly to this country) in their tiny bikinis at a beach are easy victims for some brainless dwarfs. The cheating at schools doesn't do such a damage to people who later commit suicide, or "accidentally" fall off a balcony If I'd only have one percent of the cash foreigners spend/lose in one hour on one day for useless stuff they'll never own, I'd be rich. Sorry for being totally off topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBrainer Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Maybe they will just ban the 3 actors that were hired from ever entering the medical profession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse Twoccer Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Another was assigned to transmit all data to tutors who also are university students. While I applaud the action, as usual only half the solution. Why no talk of expelling the tutors and also banning them from the medical profession for life? The tutors can't be expelled by the university, they were not university tutors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangebrew Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Now this from a school system where no student fails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt96 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 in many countries GSM/3g/4g jammers are required on exams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Another was assigned to transmit all data to tutors who also are university students. While I applaud the action, as usual only half the solution. Why no talk of expelling the tutors and also banning them from the medical profession for life? Tutors come from other faculties, not necessarily the medical faculty. The tutors would have to be caught, charged and convicted and that hasn't happened here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tominbkk Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 What's the dude in the pic pointing at? Maybe he's indicating something that needs to be taken care of in order not to be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thai3 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 They can change names but not date of birth, where they were born or their faces. Would not be difficult to weed this scum out if they had the nerve to try another scam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 ...yeah right.... ...wonder how many practicing' physicians would fail.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 As others have said, the cheaters only need to change their name. Very common and easy to do in Thailand. Unless there is a database of criminals but I doubt that such a list exists anyway. In this case there is no police action, so they won't be on a list anyway. and get a new Thai national ID as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyphodb Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Good to hear, I suspect that there is already a disturbing amount of fake Doctors/surgeons etc. out there already, paid for by mummy & Daddy Hi-so s.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobber Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 There's gonna be some rich, and very unhappy daddy's over this one. lol No problem for the rich ones. They can change their names and start over again. you forgot about joining the monk hood for a day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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