carmine Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 11 hours ago, Bredbury Blue said: ^Stupid post alfredo. What has last season's Chelsea team under Mourinho got to do with this season's team under conti? Not stupid at all. He's absolutely correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 16 hours ago, MrTrip said: Keith I think Conte is the 12th, 13th, 14th, 15th, 16th man and more. You have to say that HE has made the difference. The dramatic improvement from 10th to Champions Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Chelsea were a very good side last season. They simply stopped playing for a manager they loathed and started playing well again after he was sacked. My point is that whilst Conte has done a very fine job he also inherited a bloody good side 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bredbury Blue Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 (edited) Chelsea clearly were NOT a very good side last season. They finished 10th I think without checking which is the worst finish by a reigning champion. I also watched them many times and they weren't good. Conte took that team, didn't start particularly well, changed things and turned them in to champions. Edited May 14, 2017 by Bredbury Blue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Bredbury Blue said: Chelsea clearly were NOT a very good side last season. They finished 10th I think without checking which is the worst finish by a reigning champion. I also watched them many times aren't they weren't good. Conte took that team, didn't start particularly well, changed things and turned them in to champions. Just because there was a mutiny doesn't mean they were a poor side. You completely missed the point. As soon as Mourinho was gone they started playing well again so it was clearly NOT a case of them being a poor side, they just didn't want to play for him and who can blame them! What Conte did was make them better. Edited May 14, 2017 by carmine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bredbury Blue Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 You'll be telling us next ManU are a very good side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfieconn Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 4 hours ago, keithsimmonds said: Was there a point to your post other than just to be argumentative.??? Yes ! i was just pointing out that rather than a dramatic improvement this year it was more a case of major under achieving last season,a team that had won the title the year before, incidently you didn't answer either of my questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, Bredbury Blue said: You'll be telling us next ManU are a very good side. It might have escaped you but United were one of the bookies favourites at the start of the season. That same group of players BB. I think they have a good squad that have under performed and a manager that has been under whelming at best. Any more questions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfieconn Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 29 minutes ago, Bredbury Blue said: Chelsea clearly were NOT a very good side last season. They finished 10th I think without checking which is the worst finish by a reigning champion. I also watched them many times and they weren't good. Conte took that team, didn't start particularly well, changed things and turned them in to champions. They were the same side apart from Pedro that won the title the season before you muppet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, alfieconn said: They were the same side apart from Pedro that won the title the season before you muppet He's on particularly good form this morning!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfieconn Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 18 minutes ago, carmine said: He's on particularly good form this morning!! At least he tries, you've got to give him that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbojangles Posted May 14, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2017 8 hours ago, Rc2702 said: I have a feeling that comment will haunt you in seasons to come and the current one. It could well do but I doubt it. Mourinho doesn't have that same aura that he had first time round in the prem. The way he openly blames individual players and his negative style of football will only lead to one outcome. IMO of course 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldgit Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 20 hours ago, alfieconn said: To be fair, if there wasn't a dramatic downing of tools last season then you wouldn't be talking about a dramatic improvement from the players this season ! The "dramatic downing of tools" started with Mourinho himself, planning his exit from the club before the season started, because he knew the job he coveted most, was his for the taking. The players knew this, and it only takes two or three of them in the team to refuse to go that extra yard, for the c**t they despise on the line, for the whole thing to unravel. His actions behind the scenes and in the technical area were an utter disgrace. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 37 minutes ago, oldgit said: The "dramatic downing of tools" started with Mourinho himself, planning his exit from the club before the season started, because he knew the job he coveted most, was his for the taking. The players knew this, and it only takes two or three of them in the team to refuse to go that extra yard, for the c**t they despise on the line, for the whole thing to unravel. His actions behind the scenes and in the technical area were an utter disgrace. That's interesting so you think he went through all that as a means of an exit strategy. Sounds far fetched it's hovering towards David Ike mode that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 2 hours ago, mrbojangles said: It could well do but I doubt it. Mourinho doesn't have that same aura that he had first time round in the prem. The way he openly blames individual players and his negative style of football will only lead to one outcome. IMO of course I'd rather a boss who was critical than one who shipped out his best players on a whim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbojangles Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 22 minutes ago, Rc2702 said: I'd rather a boss who was critical than one who shipped out his best players on a whim. Yeah but you be critical behind closed doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithsimmonds Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 On Saturday, May 13, 2017 at 4:49 PM, alfieconn said: Read my post properly before getting all excited and i don't know why your mentioning this seasons players cos where am i having a pop at them ? so if your mob hadn't downed tools last season which obviously got Mourinho sacked and had finished in the top 4 which they should have done, would people still be saying what a dramatic improvement this season ? Where did I say you were having a pop at this season's signings??? Didn t did I ??? 5 players are no longer from last seasons side .also only 3 players might be accused of downing tools... .and Mous rigid 4 2 3 1 with 5 cart horses in the side were never going to cut the mustard as was the case. We won the league in 2014/15 because we were the best of a very ordinary bunch and last year was even worse given Leicsters winning points total.Our football this year under Conte has been a breathe of fresh air and nothing short of remarkable given its his 1st season here and we have a very average starting 11(except Tbeau Kante and Hazard) imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfieconn Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, keithsimmonds said: Where did I say you were having a pop at this season's signings??? Didn t did I ??? 5 players are no longer from last seasons side .also only 3 players might be accused of downing tools... .and Mous rigid 4 2 3 1 with 5 cart horses in the side were never going to cut the mustard as was the case. We won the league in 2014/15 because we were the best of a very ordinary bunch and last year was even worse given Leicsters winning points total.Our football this year under Conte has been a breathe of fresh air and nothing short of remarkable given its his 1st season here and we have a very average starting 11(except Tbeau Kante and Hazard) imo. Don't really know what all the waffling is about ! basically all i said was "if you had finished in the top 4 last season would people still be saying what a dramatic improvement this season ? " a one word answer will suffice thank you. Edited May 15, 2017 by alfieconn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 23 hours ago, carmine said: It might have escaped you but United were one of the bookies favourites at the start of the season. That same group of players BB. I think they have a good squad that have under performed and a manager that has been under whelming at best. Any more questions? Didn't think so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bredbury Blue Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 4 hours ago, carmine said: Didn't think so! "Any more questions? Didn't think so!" I didn't any you any questions so why would i have "Any more questions"? You want to calm down our kid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithsimmonds Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 5 hours ago, alfieconn said: Don't really know what all the waffling is about ! basically all i said was "if you had finished in the top 4 last season would people still be saying what a dramatic improvement this season ? " a one word answer will suffice thank you. <deleted> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 5 hours ago, alfieconn said: Don't really know what all the waffling is about ! basically all i said was "if you had finished in the top 4 last season would people still be saying what a dramatic improvement this season ? " a one word answer will suffice thank you. "If" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfieconn Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 2 hours ago, sanemax said: "If" Very good , your able to repeat a word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, alfieconn said: Very good , your able to repeat a word Before we get too much further, is that rather "you are" or "you're"? 555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfieconn Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 18 minutes ago, watcharacters said: Before we get too much further, is that rather "you are" or "you're"? 555 Oh thank's for that Mr English teacher, how much do i owe you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 20 minutes ago, alfieconn said: Very good , your able to repeat a word You did say that just one word would be sufficient, are you now saying that that one word cannot be any of the words that you used in your post ? Anyway, my point was that Chelsea didnt finish fourth last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfieconn Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, sanemax said: You did say that just one word would be sufficient, are you now saying that that one word cannot be any of the words that you used in your post ? Anyway, my point was that Chelsea didnt finish fourth last season Ok i give in, yes your right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 1 hour ago, alfieconn said: Ok i give in, yes your right Show me where it says he is right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 4 hours ago, Rc2702 said: Show me where it says he is right? Haha you can't even admit defeat on here. Quality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Just now, RonniePickering22 said: Haha you can't even admit defeat on here. Quality! That's a private joke that pal. But yes 79-0 to me not a defeat in sight so get back in your xsara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbojangles Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Right gents. Do you reckon Chelsea will be up for it tonight or are they on the beach already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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