Horrible Discovery in Tiger Temple: Dozens of Dead Tiger Kittens

[CGW]

One good question: why they had dead baby tigers and other animal parts?

Probably to sell for use in Chinese 'medicines'.

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Take note all ye worshippers of 'Alternative' medicine

Great point! far better off using medicines that have been tried and tested - on animals!

[GAZZPA]

Disgusting so much for religion

What has religion got to do with it?

Do you blame ALL Buddhists? Do you blame buddhist teachings? Or is it just the people responsible for this park? Is it taught by Buddhists to behave this way, or is it abnormal behaviour by some individuals?

So many ignorant people on this forum with an inability to actually think.

The people responsible should be arrested and prosecuted, it is good to see the other tigers being rescued, there are not many left in the World today.

[lemonjelly]

Probably stillborn cubs, 'd make a lovely pair of mittens for those cold Chinese winters.

[AlQaholic]

I visited that place many years ago, then there was just a few monks, a hut, a small temple building or shrine more like it, and three juvenile tigers running free. got out of control apparently, they prolly didn't plan at that time for it to become something like this. At that time they didn't charge anything for visitors and you would walk around at your own risk. Never been there since...

[ratcatcher]

Lead article on BBC web-site. Excellent!

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-36424091

[moe666]

One good question: why they had dead baby tigers and other animal parts?

Probably to sell for use in Chinese 'medicines'.

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Take note all ye worshippers of 'Alternative' medicine

Why, the market for this sort of thing is for a very small populationwho believe that products from certain wild animals will have a beneficial effect. To lump it in with Alternative medicine shows a lack of knowledge about the subject

[lifeincnx]

Utter disgrace.

[oldlakey]

Anyone out there still defending the scum who ran this cesspit?

If there is I dont think we will be hearing from them today at least

[Usual Suspect]

Week by week almost this country seems to shock the world with reports of inhuman practices & a total disregard for the general laws of society as we know them.

Over the last year we've seen reports of shallow graves in the Southern jungles, slaves on Thai fishing boats, rich/drunken motorists killing innocent folk without any conviction, youths attacking elderly tourists (again without conviction), 11 Thai youths slaying a poor girl, & now it seems we have

malicious, greedy, corruupt Buddhist monks that are doing as they please & so far they seem to be above the law of this land..Both the MiB, & the powers-that-be are sat back doing nothing...Wonder what money-making scam/malpractice Thai monks will get caught doing next week..??

[cyberfarang]

May be the deaths of these animals are not in vain. This could be the evidence needed to get these places closed down.

[Siamwhiteelephant]

40 killed "tiger cubs aged from birth to one week old" ... in a Buddhist monastry . Who killed them and who oversaw this?

The antithesis of one of Buddhism's principles: protection of life, including animals and that "all living entities are equal".

I predict that this news report will morph into international news.

[Dtaw]

Scum of the earth.

[johnatong]

40 killed "tiger cubs aged from birth to one week old" ... in a Buddhist monastry . Who killed them and who oversaw this?

The antithesis of one of Buddhism's principles: protection of life, including animals and that "all living entities are equal".

I predict that this news report will morph into international news.

It is already being reported Internationally !

Try reading the topic for information ..................................

[CGW]

A fine example of "Thainess"? Thailand needs some negative publicity on a international scale as if left they will do Nothing internally!

[shawn000]

Anyone out there still defending the scum who ran this cesspit?

Was there any?

Went there about four years ago. Clearly a commercial enterprise run by and for the monks.

I could not understand why there was a group of western "volunteers" helping to look after the tigers. If they had cared about the animals they should have been campaigning outside the entrance.

Cambodia wants some tigers to release into the wild. Send fifty or so over there.

Some of the Western volunteers may have been undercover from animal rights groups, though probably more of them were just naive.

As for releasing them, unfortunately they are all cross breeds of unknown decent so no chance that is going to happen. This is coupled with the fact that they have been raised in captivity, trained not to fear humans and without hunting skills, they would either likely die of starvation or end up terrorizing people and be shot, sadly these tigers are doomed to captivity, though hopefully their next home will be much better and without the daily stress of tourists touching them.

[shawn000]

One good question: why they had dead baby tigers and other animal parts?

Probably to sell for use in Chinese 'medicines'.

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Take note all ye worshippers of 'Alternative' medicine

Why, the market for this sort of thing is for a very small populationwho believe that products from certain wild animals will have a beneficial effect. To lump it in with Alternative medicine shows a lack of knowledge about the subject

It is an alternative medicine and I would not call the estimated 60% of China's population who use animal derived "medicine" a small population, it's about a billion people.

[jeab1980]

I am disgusted with this as are all in my village. I hope they are put in monkey house for long time.

[junk1e]

Latest rumour is that tigers will be relocated to a private zoo in Laos! That would for sure mean ending up in Chinese medicine.

[Naroge]

Anyone surprised?

[shawn000]

The Guardian reporting that the cubs were found in a freezer, not freshly killed, ending speculation that the cubs were killed in haste to hide a breeding program but were being traded for parts.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/01/40-dead-tiger-cubs-found-in-freezer-thai-temple-wildlife-trafficking

[Enigmatist]

Hmmmm, Initially, I thought it could just be a cull due to the inability to care for so many tigers at the facility.
However, the freezing of them might suggest it be related to the ancient belief that "Tiger penis" of enhancing sexual performance, and the trade thereof might have something to do with it. Or it could just be a cull due to the inability to care for so many tigers at the facility.

[mesterm]

Lead article on BBC web-site. Excellent!

So much face lost. Aww.

[awayego]

Week by week almost this country seems to shock the world with reports of inhuman practices & a total disregard for the general laws of society as we know them.

Over the last year we've seen reports of shallow graves in the Southern jungles, slaves on Thai fishing boats, rich/drunken motorists killing innocent folk without any conviction, youths attacking elderly tourists (again without conviction), 11 Thai youths slaying a poor girl, & now it seems we have

malicious, greedy, corruupt Buddhist monks that are doing as they please & so far they seem to be above the law of this land..Both the MiB, & the powers-that-be are sat back doing nothing...Wonder what money-making scam/malpractice Thai monks will get caught doing next week..??

I agree.

It all demonstrates how skewed, misguided and xenophobic the priorities of the Generalissimo and his cohorts that they so readily target 'aliens', who are generally easily tracked, identified, pigeon-holed and dealt with, rather than attempt seriously to deal with the glaring injustices and inequalities that are so pervasive in their own Thai society.

Better they try to clear some of this mess in their own backyard before 'laying down the law' so zealously to foreigners.

Credibility? What credibility?

[madmitch]

Let's have Tiger Kingdom investigated next, both Phuket and Chiang Mai locations. These places are run purely as money-making machines based on the exploitation of tigers, just like this "temple".

[Artisi]

Disgusting so much for religion

There is nothing wrong with religion per se, it is the way it is abused that is disgusting

As a non-believer, I would agree, if you want to follow or need a religion to survive that's ok by me, but the crap that becomes attached is not ok and needs stamping out whatever religion it is.

[SunsetT]

One good question: why they had dead baby tigers and other animal parts?

Probably to sell for use in Chinese 'medicines'.

.

Take note all ye worshippers of 'Alternative' medicine

Why, the market for this sort of thing is for a very small populationwho believe that products from certain wild animals will have a beneficial effect. To lump it in with Alternative medicine shows a lack of knowledge about the subject

China......Very small population?............Chinese medicine is 'Alternative medicine' in the West and revered by the many lovable and idealistic but gullible and exploited alternative cranks who will believe absolutely anything. Like most 'Traditional' medicine' most Chinese medicine is 'Quack' medicine same as that which has and continues today to grant power, influence and money to wily witch doctors/shamans/apothecaries/health supplement companies/ alternative therapy pedlars worldwide. Maybe 10 to 20% is efficaceous and most of this consists of natural remedies that have already been converted and improved and marketed as mainstream drugs anyway. The rest of it works only through the power of suggestion and the'placebo' effect. I wish I was not a skeptic then it might work for me...........!

[JetsetBkk]

Lead article on BBC web-site. Excellent!

So much face lost. Aww.

How will the TAT spin this one?

[Basil B]

Has not Thailand got a head monk and/or a synod who can sort out these Temples and monks who are bringing shame on their religion???

If not it certainly needs.

[Jeremy50]

Jail these monk scum. How many horror stories have to come out of this place before it is closed down?

[shawn000]

Hmmmm, Initially, I thought it could just be a cull due to the inability to care for so many tigers at the facility.

However, the freezing of them might suggest it be related to the ancient belief that "Tiger penis" of enhancing sexual performance, and the trade thereof might have something to do with it. Or it could just be a cull due to the inability to care for so many tigers at the facility.

I can't see why a cull would result in them being frozen, I can only assume that they were to be sold, along with the various other frozen animals and parts found.