george Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Giant superstore chain halts expansion for three months NAKHON RATCHASIMA: -- In an attempt to defuse protests by local retailers against transnational hypermarkets, UK-based Tesco Lotus hypermarket chain in Thailand agreed to cease its expansion and setting up of new branches with areas between 300-800 square metres for three months, Commerce Minister Krirkkrai Jirapaet said. Mr. Krirkkrai, former Thai ambassador to the World Trade Organisation, said he had received a letter from a senior executive of Tesco Lotus Friday confirming that the hypermarket chain would stop expanding or establishing its Lotus Express with areas of between 300-800 square metres for three months following complaints by local retailers. The giant retailer is also willing to cooperate with the government in finding solutions so that local retailers could continue their businesses without so much effect from major retail stores operating in the Kingdom, he said. Complaints were lodged by local retailers against the continued expansion of major hypermarket chains, especially Tesco Lotus, since the previous government of prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra. Local retailers claimed that their businesses could go bankrupt if transnational hypermarkets could go on expanding their businesses. Meanwhile, Panthep Suleesatira, chairman of the Confederation of Thais Opposing Foreign Retailers, said the Confederation which has several thousands members had submitted a letter to Sumet Tuntivejjakul, secretary general of Chai Pattana Foundation, and Mr. Krirkkrai during an investor conference, held in this northeastern province Friday, telling them that local retailers wanted major hypermarket chains, especially Tesco Lotus, to stop setting up new branches. Mr. Panthep said giant department stores must be sincere in solving problems faced by small and local retailers while Thailand has no law in controlling retail and wholesale businesses. It would be useless if major department stores continue to establish branches in the next three or four months before a new law has come into force, Mr. Panthep said. Mr. Sumet said he wanted the commerce minister to take action so that both local and foreign-run businesses can remain on amicable terms. --TNA 2006-11-11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph1012 Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 (edited) You should see this for what it is. It's a major retailer curtailing their investment in Thailand. The Thais shouldn't forget that they need major retailers like Tesco, Makro, Walmart et al to sell their Thai Produce around the world. If you look at Tesco Phuket you will see that it was built out of town. Now, an entire town has sprung up round it. It's called Billion Plaza. So far from them driving off local traders, they have actually encouraged a few hundred local retailers to come and set up shop on a previously derelict sitewith al the building and shopfitting expense that has incurred. Much better than the old leaking shops with 30 year old stock that infest Phuket town centre. Edited November 11, 2006 by Steph1012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary A Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 I have mixed emotions. I can understand the small merchants side of it but as a farang I also want the foreign items that are simply NOT available from the locals. Tesco Lotus has been trying to set up a store in Loei for several years. Last year they had a building erected that even has their signs along with other international store signs already on the building. The last I heard, the mainly Chinese merchants organized their employees for a demonstration scheduled for when the store opened. The store NEVER opened and still sits empty. I would think that the local merchants would have lost employees as well as business. Progress is sometimes painful but things DO change. I wouldn't have wanted to be an employee who refused to take part in the merchants planned demonstration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 It's 2nd and 3rd generation chinese afraid that another group of 'outsiders' is gonna come in and give them competition for something they worked so hard to win for themselves all those years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indifferent Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 (edited) I thought they were all ordered to curtail expansion. Isn't this them just complying? No expansion=No investment.......som nam na. I think they should set up the Hypermarkets on the borders (next to immigration ) in other countries like Laos and Vietnam and watch the flood of farang spending their money for monthly shopping somewhere else on thier visa runs. Not to mention the hordes of Thai shop owners that seem to buy thier stuff for selling in the villages from Makro. Lets open the (monetry) flood gates in the other direction for a change Edited November 11, 2006 by Indifferent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph1012 Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 It's 2nd and 3rd generation chinese afraid that another group of 'outsiders' is gonna come in and give them competition for something they worked so hard to win for themselves all those years ago. Need no more Womble. That is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwilliam Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Giant superstore chain halts expansion for three monthsNAKHON RATCHASIMA: -- In an attempt to defuse protests by local retailers against transnational hypermarkets, UK-based Tesco Lotus hypermarket chain in Thailand agreed to cease its expansion and setting up of new branches with areas between 300-800 square metres for three months, Commerce Minister Krirkkrai Jirapaet said. Mr. Krirkkrai, former Thai ambassador to the World Trade Organisation, said he had received a letter from a senior executive of Tesco Lotus Friday confirming that the hypermarket chain would stop expanding or establishing its Lotus Express with areas of between 300-800 square metres for three months following complaints by local retailers. The giant retailer is also willing to cooperate with the government in finding solutions so that local retailers could continue their businesses without so much effect from major retail stores operating in the Kingdom, he said. Complaints were lodged by local retailers against the continued expansion of major hypermarket chains, especially Tesco Lotus, since the previous government of prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra. Local retailers claimed that their businesses could go bankrupt if transnational hypermarkets could go on expanding their businesses. Meanwhile, Panthep Suleesatira, chairman of the Confederation of Thais Opposing Foreign Retailers, said the Confederation which has several thousands members had submitted a letter to Sumet Tuntivejjakul, secretary general of Chai Pattana Foundation, and Mr. Krirkkrai during an investor conference, held in this northeastern province Friday, telling them that local retailers wanted major hypermarket chains, especially Tesco Lotus, to stop setting up new branches. Mr. Panthep said giant department stores must be sincere in solving problems faced by small and local retailers while Thailand has no law in controlling retail and wholesale businesses. It would be useless if major department stores continue to establish branches in the next three or four months before a new law has come into force, Mr. Panthep said. Mr. Sumet said he wanted the commerce minister to take action so that both local and foreign-run businesses can remain on amicable terms. --TNA 2006-11-11 People are voting with their wallets,the best vote you can get!More SUPERSTORES!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 I feel sorry for the Mom & Pops, but the point is they have taken advantage for so long. The one near where I live really stocks so few things its ridiculous. They continuously run out of things and it takes them forever to restock. I finally gave up going down there because 4 out of 5 times they didn't have what I went for--which were basic items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxexile Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 my parents in law ( 2nd generation thai-chinese) run a ma and pa store , just a small shop that gives them something to do in their retirement and provides some income , in central bangkok. they buy all their stock at tesco , and say that they cant get it cheaper anywhere else. faulty stuff is always exchanged. they hate the thai protectionist attitude. all these thai chinese rants are beginning to smack of racism. thais are notoriously bad at business management , if it wasnt for the thai chinese and their prudent financial abilities , this country would be way back in the dark ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bottlerocket Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Big C has 48 stores. Makro has 29 stores (in Thailand). But Tesco Lotus Certainly takes the cake with an astonishing: 54 Supercenter Locations 24 Supercenters in Bangkok 1. Bang Khae 2. Bangna-Trad 3. Bangkapi 4. Bangpakok 5. Bangplee 5. Bangyai 7. Chaeng Wattana 8. Charansanitwong 9. Fortune 10. Ladprao 11. Laksi 12. Minburi 13. Prachachuen 14. Rama 1 15. Rama 2 16. Rama 3 17. Rama 4 18. Ramindra Artnarong 19. Rattanatibet 20. Seacon Square 21. Srinakarin 22. Sukaphiban 1 23. Sukhumvit 50 24. Wanghin 32 Supercenters Upcountry 1. Ayutthaya 2. Banfah Piyarom 3. Chiang Mai 4. Chaing Mai - Kad Kamtiang 5. Chaiyaphum 6. Chantaburi 7. Chon Buri 8. Hat Yai 9. Huahin 10. Kanchanaburi 11. Khon Kaen 12. Korat 13. Mahachai 14. Nakhonpratom 15. Nakhon Si Thammarat 16. Nongkai 17. North Pattaya 18. South Pattaya 19. Pathumtani 20. Phitsanulok 21. Phuket 22. Rangsit 23. Rangsit - Nakornayok 24. Ratchaburi 25. Rayong 26. Samui 27. Saraburi 28. Suphan Buri 29. Surat Thani 30. Trang 31. Ubon Ratchathani 32. Udon Thani 19 Lotus Market 1. Baanbueng 2. Banpaew 3. Chinatown 4. Jomthong 5. Kangkoi 6. Khon Kaen Fairy Plaza 7. Klang 8. Mahasarakham 9. Nokorn Sawan 10. Panasnikom 11. Petchaboon 12. Phongphet 13. Photaram 14. Pinklao 15. Pissanuloke 16. Sawan Kalok 17. Surin Plaza 18. Thamaka 19. Watcharapol 15 Value 1. Chainat 2. Lampang 3. Mae-sai 4. Mukdaharn 5. Nakornphanom 6. Nan 7. Phare 8. Phayao 9. Pichit 10. Roi Et 11. Sakonnakorn 12. Samutsakorn 13. Sattahip 14. Surin 15. Uttaradit 189 Express 1. Aree 2. Baanlaem Petchburi 3. Baansuanthon 4. Bangbon market 5. Bangbon Soi 23 6. Bangbor 7. Bangbua 8. Bangbuatong 9. Bangkradee 10. Bangna km. 2 11. Bangna km. 6.5 12. Bangpakok 13. Bangpoo 91 14. Bangpoo Nakorn 15. Bangpood 16. Bangsaothong market 17. Buathong (Moobaan) 18. Buathong 4 (Moobaan) 19. Buathongthanee 20. Cha-am 21. Chaichimplee 22. Chaimongkol (Moobaan) 23. Chalermprakiet 22 24. Changwattana 25. Chanroennakorn 26. Charoenmueng 27. Charunsanitwong 13 28. Chokchai 4 29. CP Parkland 30. DK (Moobaan) 31. Donprom (Wat Bot) 32. Donwhai 33. DP Place 34. Ekamai 35. Hua Hin 36. Huamark 37. Impact Muengthong Thani 38. Kaeha Donmuang 39. Kaeha Klongluang 40. Kaeha Samutprakan 41. Kaeha Tungsonghong 42. Kaehathani 3 (Moobaan) 43. Kaehathani 4 44. Klongjan 45. Klongkae 46. Klongluang 47. Klongpayom 48. Klongton 49. Kohsuwannaram (Wat) 50. Kosumsamakkee 2 (Soi) 51. Krunai (Wat) 52. Krungnont Market 53. Krungthonburi 6 (Soi) 54. Kue (Wat) 55. Ladkrabang 52 56. Ladprao 120 57. Ladprao 18 58. Ladprao 48 59. Ladprao 80 60. Lamlukka Klong 1 61. Lamlukka Klong 3 62. Lamlukka Klong 4 63. Likit (Moobaan) 64. Maerim 65. Maiyalap (Soi) 66. Mapraotear (Wat) 67. Moobaan Saeree 68. Muangthong Pattanakarn 69. Mueng-ek 70. Muengthong 71. Name 72. Nampu Plaza 73. Navanakorn 74. Neighbor Center 75. New Petchaburi 76. Nhonghoi 77. Nikom Bangpoo Market 78. Nongjok 79. Nongkham 80. Nongphung 81. North Bangkae 82. North Samrong 83. Nuanchan 84. Onnuch 85. Pahonyothin 34 86. Pahonyothin 58 87. Pahonyothin 66 88. Pahonyothin km. 25 89. Pahonyothin km. 26 90. Paknam Pranburi 91. Panitthon 92. Pattanakarn 20 93. Pattanakarn 30 94. Pearnont Market 95. Petchkasem 108 96. Petchkasem 33 97. Petchkasem 39 98. Petchkasem 48 99. Petchkasem 69 100. Phongsirichai 4 (Moobaan) 101. Pimonrat market 102. Pincharoen 3 103. Pinklao 104. Pornsawan Plaza 105. Prachanivet 106. Prachauthit 33 107. Prachuabkhirikhan 108. Pradoopracharat (Wat) 109. Pradu (Soi) 110. Prameruthai Bangna 111. Pramesuk Market 112. Prapadaeng 113. Prapin 5 (Moobaan) 114. Prayasuren 115. Preakasa 116. Preakasa-Putsee 117. Pruksa 3 (Moobaan) 118. Rama 4 119. Rama 9 120. Ramindra 121. Ramindra 39 122. Ramindra I/B 123. Ramkhamhaeng 164 124. Ramkhamhaeng 53 125. Ramkhamhaeng O/B 126. Ramkhamhaeng University 2 127. Rangnam 128. Rangsit City 129. Rangsit klong 1 130. Rangsit klong 2 131. Rangsit Klong 3 132. Rangsit klong 6 133. Rangsit Klong 8 134. Rangsit O/B 135. Ratchawong 136. Rattanakosin 200 (Moobaan) 137. Rinthong (Moobaan) 138. Romklao 139. Sabboonchai (Soi) 140. Saimah (Wat) 141. Sainoi 142. Samer Damapong (Soi) 143. Sampran 144. Samrong 145. Sangchan (Soi) 146. Santitham 147. Sapankoo (Soi) 148. Satupradit 149. Senanikom 150. Sethakij (Moobaan) 151. Silom S&A 152. Sinthavee Rama 2 (Moobaan) 153. Somchai (Moobaan) 154. Sor Panurangsee (Moobaan) 155. Soranakom (Soi) 156. Sriyan 157. Sukapibal 158. Sukhumvit 105 159. Sukhumvit 71 160. Sukhumvit I/B 161. Suksawas (Wat Yai) 162. Summakorn (Moobaan) 163. Sunkamphang market 164. Supapong (Soi) 165. Suthisan (Intamara 35) 166. Suthisan (Intamara 4) 167. Suthisarn 3 168. Ta-chalorm 169. Taeparak 170. Takob (Soi) 171. Tha-it 172. Tha-sai 173. Thiendad (Soi) 174. Thongwiwat (Moobaan) 175. Tippawan (Moobaan) 176. Tonpayom market 177. Udomdej 178. Udomsuk 179. Vichianchodok 180. Vipada park 181. Vipawadee 182. Waeruwanaram (Wat) 183. Wanghin 184. Wat Put Market 185. Wongwanchatchawan (Moobaan) 186. Worarat market 187. Yeesib Mituna 188. Yoodee (Soi) 189. Yoosuk (Moobaan) Tesco Lotus was created in Thailand in 1998 with a joint venture between Tesco Group of the UK and CP Group of Thailand. They've got their 51%, so what's the big F---in' deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph1012 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 (edited) Heres a list of Thai companies that supply Tesco http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?Search...&Country=TH All of whom (along with their staff) must be dancing on the tables at the prospect ot Tesco cutting back on their products both in Thailand and for sale abroad. Edited November 13, 2006 by Steph1012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmart Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 I always wonder who stirs these people up in the first place? The rabble-rousers who usually have a vested interest finger in every pie going....? Its usually just to get a better deal in ongoing negotiations or compensation for perceived lost revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markuk Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Giant superstore chain halts expansion for three monthsNAKHON RATCHASIMA: -- In an attempt to defuse protests by local retailers against transnational hypermarkets, UK-based Tesco Lotus hypermarket chain in Thailand agreed to cease its expansion and setting up of new branches with areas between 300-800 square metres for three months, Commerce Minister Krirkkrai Jirapaet said. Mr. Krirkkrai, former Thai ambassador to the World Trade Organisation, said he had received a letter from a senior executive of Tesco Lotus Friday confirming that the hypermarket chain would stop expanding or establishing its Lotus Express with areas of between 300-800 square metres for three months following complaints by local retailers. The giant retailer is also willing to cooperate with the government in finding solutions so that local retailers could continue their businesses without so much effect from major retail stores operating in the Kingdom, he said. Complaints were lodged by local retailers against the continued expansion of major hypermarket chains, especially Tesco Lotus, since the previous government of prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra. Local retailers claimed that their businesses could go bankrupt if transnational hypermarkets could go on expanding their businesses. Meanwhile, Panthep Suleesatira, chairman of the Confederation of Thais Opposing Foreign Retailers, said the Confederation which has several thousands members had submitted a letter to Sumet Tuntivejjakul, secretary general of Chai Pattana Foundation, and Mr. Krirkkrai during an investor conference, held in this northeastern province Friday, telling them that local retailers wanted major hypermarket chains, especially Tesco Lotus, to stop setting up new branches. Mr. Panthep said giant department stores must be sincere in solving problems faced by small and local retailers while Thailand has no law in controlling retail and wholesale businesses. It would be useless if major department stores continue to establish branches in the next three or four months before a new law has come into force, Mr. Panthep said. Mr. Sumet said he wanted the commerce minister to take action so that both local and foreign-run businesses can remain on amicable terms. --TNA 2006-11-11 tesco and the major supermarkets should pull all investments and leave Thailand also boycot all goods of Thai origin in their stores around the world. See who will then complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cclub75 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 It appears like a deal : give us 3 months so the situation can cool down, with enough publicity to allow us to save face. And then in 3 months, Tesco would probably be authorized to continue extensions... for 3 months. And then after that, another stop. Thai love to do that : they buy time, constantly. And especially, the new government. Anyway, the problem won't be solved soon, a new draft regarding the regulation would take months to be finalized... Until then, thai authorities will show to the world a stupid -but so typical- show of their inaptitude to take decisions. And at the end of the process, all actors would feel unhappy with the "compromise". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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