Gecko123 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 I've been following Thai crime beat news reports for a while now (mainly Channel 7, Sanook News and ThaiRath News.) Lately, I've been impressed with the speed of some of the arrests which have been made. For example, they caught that 19 year old guy who stabbed an engineer during a motorcycle-jacking-gone-bad in Ladprao last week. After the attack, the guy just melted into a busy crowd. I thought to myself, how are they ever going to catch that guy? But they did. Less than a week later, they tracked him down, hiding out in the woods near his family home in Nakhon Ratchasima. I thought that was some pretty impressive police work. Thai police do seem to be using CCTV footage, cell phone video, social media, anonymous tips, DNA, trace evidence, and fingerprints to solve crimes more effectively these days. Anyone else out there think the Thai police deserve more respect than they receive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lust Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Lol, thanks for the morning laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfish Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Getting pop corn ready Sent from my SC-01D using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko123 Posted June 9, 2016 Author Share Posted June 9, 2016 They caught the Erawan Shrine bomber. No points for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Gravy Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 To answer your question. Simply no I have not. Sorry I can't share yur enthusiasm, although I would really like to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The stuttering parrot Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 To much in the red column and not enough in the black. To much corruption as seen just yesterday with the massage parlour raid and this the headlines we see nearly everyday. Preaching road safety while their own police force can't even get the basics right and put a helmet on. The ongoing Koh Tao saga. Even in today's news a cop tries to get fines paid into his personal bank account. They have their moments but so many fingers in the pie allows the true Mr Bigs to just continue on. So I'm in the no camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 it has one vowel one syllable and its not "ok" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko123 Posted June 9, 2016 Author Share Posted June 9, 2016 Too much corruption as seen just yesterday with the massage parlour raid and this the headlines we see nearly everyday. I'm familiar with this case. Police receive tip that prostitution is being conducted in a massage parlor and raid it. Where's the corruption you alluded to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 OP you been on the lao kao????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamkyong Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Too much corruption as seen just yesterday with the massage parlour raid and this the headlines we see nearly everyday. I'm familiar with this case. Police receive tip that prostitution is being conducted in a massage parlor and raid it. Where's the corruption you alluded to? the clue is here Police receive tip NOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedy Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Derogatory / Discuss Moderation / Flaming posts Removed Forum Rules here - http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?app=forums&module=extras§ion=boardrules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJohnson Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Window Dressing - as usual.Policing,law enforcement (or lack thereof) is an endemic problem and needs a major overhaul. Small carrot, big stick for law enforcement, more police on the beat, better pay for police, completely new system of recruiting and training police, merit-based system of promotion, just to begin with. Generational change. Don't read too much into the propaganda that gets peddled out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko123 Posted June 9, 2016 Author Share Posted June 9, 2016 Can we focus on the question of whether or not people have noticed that the police have become more efficient in tracking down criminals? The BIB-good vs. BIB-bad debate has been done to death on past threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumgranosalum Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 short answer - "NO!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLCrab Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Interesting query Gecko but why didnt you just put one of these on your back: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumgranosalum Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Clearly the result of copious research and in depth analysis.....NOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Can we focus on the question of whether or not people have noticed that the police have become more efficient in tracking down criminals? The BIB-good vs. BIB-bad debate has been done to death on past threads. You started it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuestHouse Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) Thailand gets the police service it designed. At its very foundation it was provided with no operating budget, this was to be obtained from fines and penalties the newly formed police force levied on those it policed. Those it policed are of course the poor and powerless - because it has been set up that way. The OP's observation is however founded on a truth, the police can act effectively ( almost always when the perp is poor but occassionaly when protection is 'removed' from the wealthy/connected). But there is something else, behind the disgraceful and very rightly criticised behaviour of the police in such cases as Kho Toa, the investigation of the murdering police officers children and many others there are officers who do a good job, there are plenty of officers who deal with and witness things the rest of us hope we never have to see and there are officers who die in the line of duty. Thailand's police force was established to meet the ends of the rich and powerful, Thailand has changed and the police force needs to change. The people of Thailand deserve a better police force and so too do those officers who do their best in a very difficult police culture and despite what they see or the very real risks they face. Put my tick in the 'glimmer of hope box'. Edited June 9, 2016 by GuestHouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumgranosalum Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 "he OP's observation is however founded on a truth, the police can act effectively ( almost always when the perp is poor but occassionaly when protection is 'temoved' from the wealthy/connected)." - so no change there ...therefore not starting to impress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuestHouse Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 "he OP's observation is however founded on a truth, the police can act effectively ( almost always when the perp is poor but occassionaly when protection is 'temoved' from the wealthy/connected)." - so no change there ...therefore not starting to impress. You could of couse put that to the test by breaking the law and then paying yourself out of trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexlowe Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Can we focus on the question of whether or not people have noticed that the police have become more efficient in tracking down criminals? The BIB-good vs. BIB-bad debate has been done to death on past threads. Many moons ago, Amnesty International (I think) and other human rights groups said at least 50% of people in Thailand's jails were innocent - they had been falsely arrested by the police who wanted "quick" results. Earlier this year, another report suggested as much as 63% (hmmm - that's a pretty precise figure????) of inmates were stitched up. Gecko123, I think you might find some answers in those figures above. Not saying the cops can't catch a crim when they need to. It's just that few believe they do so out of a philosophical bent to protect and serve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayk Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Too much corruption as seen just yesterday with the massage parlour raid and this the headlines we see nearly everyday. I'm familiar with this case. Police receive tip that prostitution is being conducted in a massage parlor and raid it. Where's the corruption you alluded to? How about the list of names of the police that were being paid by said establishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamkyong Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 oh do catch up the list of names was on the parlour wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko123 Posted June 9, 2016 Author Share Posted June 9, 2016 Can we focus on the question of whether or not people have noticed that the police have become more efficient in tracking down criminals? The BIB-good vs. BIB-bad debate has been done to death on past threads. Many moons ago, Amnesty International (I think) and other human rights groups said at least 50% of people in Thailand's jails were innocent - they had been falsely arrested by the police who wanted "quick" results. Earlier this year, another report suggested as much as 63% (hmmm - that's a pretty precise figure????) of inmates were stitched up. Gecko123, I think you might find some answers in those figures above. Not saying the cops can't catch a crim when they need to. It's just that few believe they do so out of a philosophical bent to protect and serve. After 20 minutes of Google searches, I cannot find anything which even remotely supports the outrageous statistics you cited above. Help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Gecko i can vouch for some of the statistics of stitched up. I am part of it. I was stitched up by a senior Thai police man who took money from my ex-wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko123 Posted June 9, 2016 Author Share Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) I have to admit that after reading that several high ranking cops were suspended after their names were found in a bribe book at the brothel which was raided a few days ago, perhaps, my OP may have been (ahem, cough, cough) a tad bit untimely. But on the other hand, isn't it a sign of progress that such evidence of corruption was disclosed to the press and public? The main point I was trying to get across was that due to the proliferation of CCTV cameras and the use of more sophisticated crime fighting tools, the police do seem to have become more proficient in solving crimes. That is not to say that there isn't always room for improvement in their professionalism. Edited June 9, 2016 by Gecko123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Dust zoo, four police standing there inside having a coffee and a cigarette. Is the zoo a high crime area, I think not. Just another eg of the strange things they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dageurreotype Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Thailand gets the police service it designed. At its very foundation it was provided with no operating budget, this was to be obtained from fines and penalties the newly formed police force levied on those it policed. Those it policed are of course the poor and powerless - because it has been set up that way. The OP's observation is however founded on a truth, the police can act effectively ( almost always when the perp is poor but occassionaly when protection is 'removed' from the wealthy/connected). But there is something else, behind the disgraceful and very rightly criticised behaviour of the police in such cases as Kho Toa, the investigation of the murdering police officers children and many others there are officers who do a good job, there are plenty of officers who deal with and witness things the rest of us hope we never have to see and there are officers who die in the line of duty. Thailand's police force was established to meet the ends of the rich and powerful, Thailand has changed and the police force needs to change. The people of Thailand deserve a better police force and so too do those officers who do their best in a very difficult police culture and despite what they see or the very real risks they face. Put my tick in the 'glimmer of hope box'. This is much the same as the UK when the peelers were set up. Thailand's simply playing catch up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumbleweed Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 " the police do seem to have become more proficient in solving crimes" "more proficient" suggests they were already somewhat proficient to start with. Perhaps a more apt phrase would be "a little less worse than useless" However; they would still have to improve year on year for the next decade to reach the status of raging buffoons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebluewater Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 An organized crime unit unto themselves. The everyday in-your-face best example of much of what is wrong with Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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