TPI Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Therein lies another problem with religion, some group of old men write a treatise on how we should live and its swallowed by the ignorant masses. Any glimmer of objective thought tells us burning your child for marrying against your will is the act of a sociopath, however religion makes it acceptable. Christianity went thru all this barbarism, these days it's Islam. Christianity didn't get stuck in barbarism for 1300 years. history is not exactly your strength Scotland: The witchcraft trials in Scotland took place during the period 1561-1727. Kingdom of Great Britain: Witchcraft ceased to be an act punishable by law with the Witchcraft Act of 1735. an estimated 50-60,000 witches were burned in Europe between 1200 and 1700. And it would appear that the accused women were, generally, midwives taking away "doctors" businesses!! Such are the pressures in business?? Sweden was one of the worst offenders! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactus Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) Ignorant muslim families in middle age level countries. And well stupid and full of contradiction bc such actions make them burn in hell according to the religion and Quran they believe! This just goes to show there is still a great divide between east and west , A great divide between Muslims and the civilised world you meanCivilized world? You mean the ones slaved colored people and asians and ones exploited colonies and ones killed people in the name of religion and ignorance or the ones made holocausts? And the ones still creating problems by playing world gendarmerie on earth including radicalism of islam? Dont be funny or be realistic a bit. You sound like brainwashed most of the time. Edited June 9, 2016 by Galactus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfiddler Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Very sad we still allow these barbaric cultures to exist. Britain will be the same way soon. We already have a Pakistani in charge of Londonstanie What a stupid comment. Who,s, yours or Tommy,s ? Personally I think Tommy,s carries a little more sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F430murci Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Ignorant muslim families in middle age level countries. And well stupid and full of contradiction bc such actions make them burn in hell according to the religion and Quran they believe! This just goes to show there is still a great divide between east and west , A great divide between Muslims and the civilised world you meanCivilized world? You mean the ones slaved colored people and asians and ones exploited colonies and ones killed people in the name of religion and ignorance or the ones made holocausts? And the ones still creating problems by playing world gendarmerie on earth including radicalism of islam? Dont be funny or be realistic a bit. You sound like brainwashed most of the time. Poor soul. There is so much good in the world. Why be stuck in the past, filled with hate and contempt. Just wow killing your own child. I cannot imagine. I get panicky when my fall down or experience any discomfort. We should protect our children. Children deserve that and it is our duty. Love, forgiveness and tolerance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabothai Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Very sad we still allow these barbaric cultures to exist. Britain will be the same way soon. We already have a Pakistani in charge of Londonstanie So Tommy, what do you suggest? Who is we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactus Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) Ignorant muslim families in middle age level countries. And well stupid and full of contradiction bc such actions make them burn in hell according to the religion and Quran they believe! This just goes to show there is still a great divide between east and west , A great divide between Muslims and the civilised world you meanCivilized world? You mean the ones slaved colored people and asians and ones exploited colonies and ones killed people in the name of religion and ignorance or the ones made holocausts? And the ones still creating problems by playing world gendarmerie on earth including radicalism of islam?Dont be funny or be realistic a bit. You sound like brainwashed most of the time. Poor soul. There is so much good in the world. Why be stuck in the past, filled with hate and contempt. Just wow killing your own child. I cannot imagine. I get panicky when my fall down or experience any discomfort. We should protect our children. Children deserve that and it is our duty. Love, forgiveness and tolerance. bc now and future are combinations of past. Edited June 9, 2016 by Galactus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khon Kaen Dave Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 And even in America,the witch trials of Salem.It seems that no country can escape its shame.I've just finished watching the new version of 'Roots' and that is something i dont want to get started on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjunadawn Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 No, all cultures are not relative= equal. Some mores are repugnant and contrary to what civil cultures cherish. When dispassionately considered, the following speaker is correct, some human behaviors and agreed norms are superior- from a civil perspective. Should the above truth be false, there would never have been an Enlightenment, there would be no suffarage, no equality in opportunity, and no civil rights movement. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2JXrDwtiqQs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanukjim Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) Ah Yes ,This is your Islam relegion working for you and a sign of whats coming to The UK . Get out now if you can. Edited June 9, 2016 by sanukjim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foexie Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Problem is that, if the "elderly" peoples being "brainwashed" for so many years it is so hard to turn it around again. They force it also to the "modern" young ones. And yes it has to do with their "religion" or maybe, more simple, their believes. Same in Thailand they "believe" they need a dowry so the parents know the husband can take care of their daughter, in Africa they "believe" a woman needs to have a circumcision to be a good wife, in "Europe" the Roma need to kidnap there girlfriends for have a chance to marry them, ........... it's such a very pitty this all have to happen. I just red on our newspapers website the mother doesn't even regrets she put her daughter on fire. And also that, last week, a 26y old teacher was being burned, in Pakistan, because she just refused a wedding proposal. She is "lucky" she died after 3 days. As long these old believes keep living we will have these tragedies. R.I.P. this poor woman. But she will keep being one of many as long this kind of "tradition" EVERYWHERE doesn't change. I think in this case, or any similar cases, the most appropriate punishment would be the same "punishment" the victim was given. But who would be the Neanderthal or sick, insane, person who wants/wishes this to happen ????????? I have no more words, ideas or solutions for this to be solved. Peoples just have to change ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i claudius Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Problem is that, if the "elderly" peoples being "brainwashed" for so many years it is so hard to turn it around again. They force it also to the "modern" young ones. And yes it has to do with their "religion" or maybe, more simple, their believes. Same in Thailand they "believe" they need a dowry so the parents know the husband can take care of their daughter, in Africa they "believe" a woman needs to have a circumcision to be a good wife, in "Europe" the Roma need to kidnap there girlfriends for have a chance to marry them, ........... it's such a very pitty this all have to happen. I just red on our newspapers website the mother doesn't even regrets she put her daughter on fire. And also that, last week, a 26y old teacher was being burned, in Pakistan, because she just refused a wedding proposal. She is "lucky" she died after 3 days. As long these old believes keep living we will have these tragedies. R.I.P. this poor woman. But she will keep being one of many as long this kind of "tradition" EVERYWHERE doesn't change. I think in this case, or any similar cases, the most appropriate punishment would be the same "punishment" the victim was given. But who would be the Neanderthal or sick, insane, person who wants/wishes this to happen ????????? I have no more words, ideas or solutions for this to be solved. Peoples just have to change ! " "Peoples just have to change" and therein lies the problem ,so very many in this religion do not seem to want to change . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Very sad we still allow these barbaric cultures to exist. Britain will be the same way soon. We already have a Pakistani in charge of Londonstanie So Tommy, what do you suggest? Who is we? he is using majestatis pluralis "WE Tommy the UK MCMLX hereby forbid..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 an interesting fact is that the resident Islam bashers overlooked that there is nowhere any reference to religion in context with the crime. the daughter eloped, married without consent of her family and was brutally murdered. something that is quite common practice in Indian Hindu society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabothai Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 The western 'civilized' world has outlawed physical harm, as far as mental harm is concerned we are as uncivilized as these tribes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaidam Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 an interesting fact is that the resident Islam bashers overlooked that there is nowhere any reference to religion in context with the crime. the daughter eloped, married without consent of her family and was brutally murdered. something that is quite common practice in Indian Hindu society. Yep, we should definitely open our minds more, instead of the rush to judgement. We should seek greater understanding of cultures we do not fully understand, and respect and support their way of life which is often at odds with our own. Respecting the mothers faith, we should conclude that murdering her daughter was the correct thing to do in the circumstances out of respect for islam, the religion of peace. What do the common sense bashers make of this attitude? No references to religion? Ah thats OK then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 an interesting fact is that the resident Islam bashers overlooked that there is nowhere any reference to religion in context with the crime. the daughter eloped, married without consent of her family and was brutally murdered. something that is quite common practice in Indian Hindu society. Yep, we should definitely open our minds more, instead of the rush to judgement. We should seek greater understanding of cultures we do not fully understand, and respect and support their way of life which is often at odds with our own. Respecting the mothers faith, we should conclude that murdering her daughter was the correct thing to do in the circumstances out of respect for islam, the religion of peace. What do the common sense bashers make of this attitude? No references to religion? Ah thats OK then. what part of "the mother's faith is irrelevant" is it you don't understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallybee Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Therein lies another problem with religion, some group of old men write a treatise on how we should live and its swallowed by the ignorant masses. Any glimmer of objective thought tells us burning your child for marrying against your will is the act of a sociopath, however religion makes it acceptable. Christianity went thru all this barbarism, these days it's Islam. Christianity didn't get stuck in barbarism for 1300 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallybee Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 You are as ignorant.Must have never heard about the Inquisition. Or closer by the atrocities the Roman church inflict on the Philippinos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AhFarangJa Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 And we welcome these folk with open arms into first world countries to integrate.......... I agree with you. Unfortunately Transam, they do not want to integrate, they want to dominate, and they are succeding... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactus Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Therein lies another problem with religion, some group of old men write a treatise on how we should live and its swallowed by the ignorant masses. Any glimmer of objective thought tells us burning your child for marrying against your will is the act of a sociopath, however religion makes it acceptable. Christianity went thru all this barbarism, these days it's Islam. Christianity didn't get stuck in barbarism for 1300 years. history is not exactly your strength Scotland: The witchcraft trials in Scotland took place during the period 1561-1727. Kingdom of Great Britain: Witchcraft ceased to be an act punishable by law with the Witchcraft Act of 1735. an estimated 50-60,000 witches were burned in Europe between 1200 and 1700. agree except, they estimate around 5 to 9 million women accused as witches out of blue and burned alive within 300 - 400 years. All burned alive therefore killed in the name of religion same as ISIS or Zionists or crusaders. and come close in history, you will see colonialism, slavery, world wars and atomic bombs, nearly all by so called civilized world and Christians! and come closer in history, you will see radical muslim groups was created and supported again by so called civilized wold and Christians. and/or muslim people have been pushed, colonized, exploited again resulted on the rise of bloody radical muslim people. and lets come to the topic, this unbelievable act of burning a girl alive is not related with islam or any religion but ignorance and superstition plaguing so called civilized world and Christianity. No way islam or any religion tells you to burn someone alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 She went from someone who bore the dishonor of having her daughter elope to someone who now has the honor of being known as the women who killed her own daughter by tying her to a bed and setting the girl on fire. Congratulations on coming up in the world. And now the house will forever smell of the burning body. I wonder how her prison-mates will treat her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Barbaric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soc Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 And we welcome these folk with open arms into first world countries to integrate.......... I agree with you. Unfortunately Transam, they do not want to integrate, they want to dominate, and they are succeding... ……succeeding because we have become a nation of softc..ks & PCIs & ARE letting them succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soc Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 She went from someone who bore the dishonor of having her daughter elope to someone who now has the honor of being known as the women who killed her own daughter by tying her to a bed and setting the girl on fire. Congratulations on coming up in the world. And now the house will forever smell of the burning body. I wonder how her prison-mates will treat her. Probably treat her like a heroine for upholding the family "honour"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Ignorant muslim families in middle age level countries. And well stupid and full of contradiction bc such actions make them burn in hell according to the religion and Quran they believe! This just goes to show there is still a great divide between east and west , A great divide between Muslims and the civilised world you meanCivilized world? You mean the ones slaved colored people and asians and ones exploited colonies and ones killed people in the name of religion and ignorance or the ones made holocausts? And the ones still creating problems by playing world gendarmerie on earth including radicalism of islam? Dont be funny or be realistic a bit. You sound like brainwashed most of the time. Quite right. Let us never forget the crimes of the Ottoman Empire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactus Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Ignorant muslim families in middle age level countries. And well stupid and full of contradiction bc such actions make them burn in hell according to the religion and Quran they believe! This just goes to show there is still a great divide between east and west , A great divide between Muslims and the civilised world you meanCivilized world? You mean the ones slaved colored people and asians and ones exploited colonies and ones killed people in the name of religion and ignorance or the ones made holocausts? And the ones still creating problems by playing world gendarmerie on earth including radicalism of islam?Dont be funny or be realistic a bit. You sound like brainwashed most of the time. Quite right. Let us never forget the crimes of the Ottoman Empire. yep. exactly. let us dont forget the crimes of f ing Ottoman Empire too. but when we compare, they are like angles when you compare them with so called 'civilized world' and 'Christians'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 (edited) Ah, so the Ottomans were cultured and urbane barbarians. Genghis Khan and Pol Pot and their followers were no doubt a couple of cracking lads too, once you got to know them, at least in comparison with anyone white, eh? Mobutu and Idi Amin, as well. Damn those Europeans! Edited June 10, 2016 by baboon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copa8 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 This just goes to show there is still a great divide between east and west , You mean between East Asia (mostly non-Islamic) and West Asia (mostly Islamic). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptic7 Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Therein lies another problem with religion, some group of old men write a treatise on how we should live and its swallowed by the ignorant masses. Any glimmer of objective thought tells us burning your child for marrying against your will is the act of a sociopath, however religion makes it acceptable. Christianity went thru all this barbarism, these days it's Islam. Christianity didn't get stuck in barbarism for 1300 years. Actually yes it did. Of course it was during centuries of extreme ignorance and superstition which knowledge and understanding of the natural world (science) have since remedied for most...except for the bat shit crazy Islamic world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptic7 Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Mad Animals that happen to look human....An unacceptable and demeaning insult to animals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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