MickeyMaow Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 (edited) Right here's the sanario, I have a friend coming to Thailand next week, he's coming over fora little over 2 months. He's has been here before but all he done was sit in a girly bar for a month in Koh Samui. I sent him a text asking him if has he got a visa sorted as he will be saying over 60 days, his reply was "do they not still give them out on the plane?" Honestly thought I'm not going to bother! Here's the question, can he be refused entry with no visa and return ticket exceeding 60days? I'm thinking he might not even get on the flight at home at check in. I aways come over on a one way ticket and the staff at check in always check my visa. Will they let him in? Edited July 3, 2016 by MickeyMaow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DUS Posted July 3, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2016 I regard the risk of being denied boarding significantly higher than being denied entry by the IO. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob13 Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 If he's coming from the US I doubt they'll let him board the plane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beano2274 Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 As Dus above, the risk is not being able to check in to board his initial aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickeyMaow Posted July 3, 2016 Author Share Posted July 3, 2016 Yes that's what I thought, the main risk being getting on board at home. He's not flying from the US. If he does get in will he have to fly out and back in for another 30days? No more 15days visa runs, is that correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elviajero Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Here's the question, can he be refused entry with no visa and return ticket exceeding 60days? No because not having an onward ticket is not a lawful reason for denying entry. Immigration at the airport don't usually want to see an onward/return ticket. The airline might deny boarding without an onward ticket dated within 30 days of arrival. He needs a visa or he could buy a cheap onward ticket to anywhere. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beano2274 Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Yes that's what I thought, the main risk being getting on board at home. He's not flying from the US. If he does get in will he have to fly out and back in for another 30days? No more 15days visa runs, is that correct? depends on nationality about how many days he is given, he could go for a border run no need to fly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elviajero Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 (edited) Yes that's what I thought, the main risk being getting on board at home. He's not flying from the US. If he does get in will he have to fly out and back in for another 30days? No more 15days visa runs, is that correct? No. If he qualifies for tourist visa exempt entry (30 days) he can extend that by another 30 days at an immigration office for 1,900 baht. p.s. If he gets a tourist visa before traveling he won't have a problem flying or entering and will be granted 60 days on entry. That will cover his trip and he won't need to take time out at an immigration office getting an extension. Although that 60 day entry can also be extended by 30 days if required. Edited July 3, 2016 by elviajero 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob13 Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 (edited) Tell him to go online and get a AirAsia ticket to Myanmar or Penamg about 3 weeks after he enters Thailand. Cost about a hundred dollars and will save him a bunch of trouble. Edited July 3, 2016 by Rob13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Tell him to go online and get a AirAsia ticket to Myanmar or Penamg about 3 weeks after he enters Thailand. Cost about a hundred dollars and will save him a bunch of trouble. Oneway Phuket - Kuala Lumpur down to 1190 Baht on weekdays. Inkl. payment about 1250 Baht (35 USD). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritTim Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 If he makes no provision before reaching the airport, but is affluent and looks it, he can probably talk his way through check in. He should assure the supervisor that he is sure he will have no problems, and ask for a form guaranteeing to indemnify the airline against any costs they incur should he be denied entry. This has worked for me several times in the past, but it is up to the airline supervisor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickeyMaow Posted July 3, 2016 Author Share Posted July 3, 2016 If he makes no provision before reaching the airport, but is affluent and looks it, he can probably talk his way through check in. He should assure the supervisor that he is sure he will have no problems, and ask for a form guaranteeing to indemnify the airline against any costs they incur should he be denied entry. This has worked for me several times in the past, but it is up to the airline supervisor. He's neither affluent looking or probably confident enough to blag his way if they pull him on it. Seriously he's not even aware of this problem yet, he thought he'd get a visa on the plane and all he had to do is drop his bags and go sit in a bar for 2 months. I Actually think him having this problem might do him the world of good having to solve it over here, it will force him out of his comfort zone. It will be an experience for him and he'll be wiser after it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 Learning by doing Some will never listen. I know this type of people. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GroveHillWanderer Posted July 4, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2016 (edited) I'm a little confused (or maybe something's changed that I'm not aware of?). I've flown into Thailand at least 30 times (average of once a year for over 30 years) without a visa and the Thai immigration authorities have never seemed remotely interested in, nor asked for any evidence of, return or onward travel, availability of funds etc. Assuming the person being referred to is of a nationality eligible for a visa exempt entry and has not previously abused the system (of which I see no mention in the OP), why would Thai immigration give him any grief? It is admittedly two years now since I got my last visa exempt entry so that's why I'm wondering if something has changed in the intervening period. Edited July 4, 2016 by GroveHillWanderer 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suradit69 Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 "do they not still give them out on the plane?" They never gave them out on the plane. He would get a 30 day visa exempt entry (i.e. no visa, but a 30 day permission to stay) when he presented his passport at airport immigrations check in, and that could be extended for 30 days at an immigration office. Doubtful he'd encountered problems with passing through immigrations assuming he hasn't been doing this repeatedly back to back and/or he doesn't appear to be too scruffy. As long as he has a return air ticket he shouldn't have a problem with the airlines. Their concern is self-serving since, if he were to be refused entry, he would need to fly out again and they could be held responsible for the airfare if he couldn't pay. Having already paid for a return ticket they'd be off the hook for footing the bill. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUS Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 (edited) I'm a little confused by some of the responses here (or maybe something's changed that I'm not aware of?). I've flown into Thailand at least 30 times (average of once a year for over 30 years) without a visa and the Thai immigration authorities have never seemed remotely interested in, nor asked for any evidence of, return or onward travel, availability of funds etc. Assuming the person being referred to is of a nationality eligible for a visa exempt entry and has not previously abused the system (of which I see no mention in the OP), why would Thai immigration give him any grief? It is admittedly two years now since I got my last visa exempt entry so that's why I'm wondering if something has changed in the intervening period. Nothing in that regard has changed in the last 2 years.... It has always been the case that airlines regularly check for a return flight within 30 days of arrival unless you had a visa in your passport. Edited July 4, 2016 by DUS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowgard Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 Him just need to tell the immigration that him want to visit Laos after 3-4 weeks and later come back to BKK for fly home. Nobody proof it. After 4 weeks him go to the immigration and ask for a extension. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little mary sunshine Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 He sounds like another "real winner"....hope He is denied entry....Try to find quality friends!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 Can you be denied entry to Thailand if the Immigration officer gets out of bed on the wrong side in the morning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 Can you be denied entry to Thailand if the Immigration officer gets out of bed on the wrong side in the morning? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMA_FARANG Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 Most airlines that fly international routes are required to follow IATA rules. IATA requires that an airline that flies a passenger to a country where he or she is not allowed to enter MAY be required to remove that passenger from the country that will not accept that passenger. Which means thatthe airline that brought you COULD POSSIBLY be required to pay for removing you from That country that will not accept your entry. That is why the AIRLINE that brings you may want you to show an onward ticket, OR a valid visa, OR sign a statement that if you are not accepted the airline is not at required to remove you from the country that will not accept you. That is why people without a visa or an onward ticket, at the choice of the airline, you may not be allowed to board a flight to an international destination without either a visa or such a declaration. It doesn't happen often....but the airlineis within it's rights to not allow you to fly unless you meet the IATA requirements. Some airlines don't enforce the rules strictly, some do. For most people that have a problem, it is not Thai immigration, but the airline that causes them a problem. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfaroukh Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 If he is denied in Thailand he can say he intend to do a boarder run one time. If he is denied at home town he can say the same thing so they may allow him to board the plane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MobileContent Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 (edited) He can buy a cheap flight on AirAsia from Bangkok to Kuala Lumpur for around 1000-2000 Baht and problem solved. A friend of mine just came to Thailand a few days ago from Belgium without a visa. Edited July 4, 2016 by MobileContent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindsayB Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 I fly in and out about 10 times per year.Boarding the aircraft is the problem. These airlines wouldnt let me board unless I had a ticket to leave thailand or a work visa JAL ANA Korean. These ones dont give a rats ass Suprisingly THAI Air Asia Vietnamese airlines Jetairways KLM China southern. Like the above poster said just get a super cheap flight on airasia and go to Cambodia,KL or somewhere for a couple of days.You/he will need to show it at the check in counter when he boards to Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogeroc Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 I would be interested to know if an Airline can reasonably question a return ticket back from Thailand (no Visa) within 31 to 60 days. Could they bar you from boarding if you had a return ticket say after 59 days as this period can be covered legitimately with Visa exempt and extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronuk Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 I would be interested to know if an Airline can reasonably question a return ticket back from Thailand (no Visa) within 31 to 60 days. Could they bar you from boarding if you had a return ticket say after 59 days as this period can be covered legitimately with Visa exempt and extension. Airlines can pretty much do what they want. They own the planes. The problem being is that if you get confrontational with them, its pretty much a foregone conclusion that they will deny you boarding anyway. That's the last thing you want as I believe you then go on a list across all airlines that you was denied boarding and the reason why. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogeroc Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 How is that answer remotely helpful in any way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob13 Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 How is that answer remotely helpful in any way? Don't know how helpful it is but he answered your question. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOLDBUGGY Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 I'm a little confused (or maybe something's changed that I'm not aware of?). I've flown into Thailand at least 30 times (average of once a year for over 30 years) without a visa and the Thai immigration authorities have never seemed remotely interested in, nor asked for any evidence of, return or onward travel, availability of funds etc. Assuming the person being referred to is of a nationality eligible for a visa exempt entry and has not previously abused the system (of which I see no mention in the OP), why would Thai immigration give him any grief? It is admittedly two years now since I got my last visa exempt entry so that's why I'm wondering if something has changed in the intervening period. Yeah! It was exactly the same for me. Never had a problem boarding or getting a 30 day exempt without being asked for an onward flight. So indeed, has something changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronuk Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 How is that answer remotely helpful in any way? I just answered what you was asking. Sorry if it isn't what you wanted to hear. I have no idea what else I could of said regarding your question? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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