Proof of income for extension of stay based on marriage - non-retiree, non-dependent

[Lorin]

Hey guys, thanks for all the help! I've got my income affidavit from the embassy, and now I have another question - quite simply, what else should I expect to have to present at Chaengwattana immigration? Every source I check seems to have a slightly different list. The ones that stand out as the most confusing are as follows:

- Marriage certificate - will the certificate we got from the Thai embassy in New York be enough? Or, do we need something else?

- Map to our residence in Thailand. Necessary in Bangkok? Or, is this just something we need if we're living in the provinces? Also, does it really need to be hand-drawn, or will a simple google maps print-out suffice?

- Photos of my wife and I. This one is really odd - do the pictures need to be taken at our apartment? Some sources seem to think so. Also, is this a provinces-only requirement, or will they want it in Bangkok, too?

- Will there be a problem that my wife's tabien baan is for her hometown, but my registered residence (and she lives here too) is in Bangkok?

and finally,

- Should we expect to be interviewed / interrogated?

Have you registered you marriage at an Amphoe? You will need the Kor Ror 22 issued for a foreign marriage to apply for the extension.

If you registered your marriage at the consulate in NY it should be easy to register your marriage at a Amphoe. Check with you local Khet since you appear to be in Bangkok.

The following is a general list of the required documents and etc. need to apply for the extension.

Unless you are applying at Bangkok you will need 2 sets of copies attached to 2 TM7 application.forms.

Proof of 400k baht in the bank for 2 months by way of a letter from your bank and your bank book.or 40k baht income.proven by a income letter from your embassy.

Copies of your passport photo page and every page that has any stamp or visa for Thailand on it. Copy of TM6 departure card.

Marriage certificate and a updated Kor Ror 2 marriage registry (Kor Ror 22 for foreign marriages)

Copies of your wife's house book registry and ID card.

Photos of you and your wife in and around the house. One must show you both with the house number shown in it. The number of photos needed varies by office.

Map to your residence from the nearest main road or street.

Proof of residence if not living where your wife's house book is for.

Some offices may want witnesses when you apply. (not needed in Bangkok)

Few questions if I may:

What is Kor Ror 2 exactly? I was under impression marriage certificate is enough for that purpose? If not, can I get Kor Ror from any amphor, or only from the one that marriage registered?

The pictures need to be printed like a real pictures from Photo shop, or just on A4 paper?

I'm on 30 days exempt stamp that has 10 days left, from what I read before you need at least 15 days left to make extension based on marriage? Can I make this extension after "normal" tourist extension of 30 more days ?

[elviajero]

Few questions if I may:

What is Kor Ror 2 exactly? I was under impression marriage certificate is enough for that purpose? If not, can I get Kor Ror from any amphor, or only from the one that marriage registered?

The pictures need to be printed like a real pictures from Photo shop, or just on A4 paper?

I'm on 30 days exempt stamp that has 10 days left, from what I read before you need at least 15 days left to make extension based on marriage? Can I make this extension after "normal" tourist extension of 30 more days ?

It's a supplementary document to the actual marriage certificate with details of the registry. You can get one from any Amphoe.

Yes you should get the pictures printed.

You can extend a 30 day visa exempt entry by another 30 days.

Edited July 24, 2016 by elviajero

[ubonjoe]

Hey guys, after a bit of a hiatus, I have some more questions -

First, regarding proof of residence: I have found out that the agent who acts as my go-between with the owner of the condo I rent is out of the country until Aug. 5, the date my visa expires. Unfortunately, my current lease agreement is in English, and apparently expired last summer - but, the owner never asked us to formally extend it. Is there any other way that I can offer proof of residence? Say, a notarized affidavit or some such? Or, will this kill the application?

Second, regarding the kor ror 2. My wife says that when we registered our marriage with the Thai embassy in New York, the document they gave us IS the kor ror 2. Is this true? For the record, we were married in the US. We registered our marriage the day we were married. The document in question is titled ใบสัมคัญแสดงการจดทะเบียนสมรส, formally translated into English as "certificate of the registration of marriage." It bears the seal of the Thai government and is in both English and Thai. Does this sound accurate?

Thanks again in advance, and thanks for all of the invaluable advice you've already provided.

The registration you did at the consulate in New York is not equal to a Kor Ror 22 marriage registry. You can use what you got from the consulate to register your marriage at an Amphoe to obtain a Kor Ror 22.

What you got a the consulate would be close to a Kor Ror 3 marriage certificate issued when a marriage is registered at an Amphoe. Those with a Kor Ror 3 get a Kor Ror 2 marriage registry.

[ubonjoe]

Few questions if I may:

What is Kor Ror 2 exactly? I was under impression marriage certificate is enough for that purpose? If not, can I get Kor Ror from any amphor, or only from the one that marriage registered?

The pictures need to be printed like a real pictures from Photo shop, or just on A4 paper?

I'm on 30 days exempt stamp that has 10 days left, from what I read before you need at least 15 days left to make extension based on marriage? Can I make this extension after "normal" tourist extension of 30 more days ?

It's a supplementary document to the actual marriage certificate with details of the registry. You can get one from any Amphoe.

Yes you should get the pictures printed.

You can extend a 30 day visa exempt entry by another 30 days.

Most immigration offices will accept the photos printed on A4 size paper.

I have never used anything other than photos done that way to get my extensions. My office is happy with a total of 4 photos printed with two 5 X 7 inch photos per sheet. I have used plain paper before but have been using photo paper for the last few extensions.

[PoorSucker]

I print my photos on regular paper, if you have children make sure the are on the pictures.

[Ronuk]

It looks to be going to get more difficult.

The bad element continue to make it hard for those that want to do it the correct and legal way.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/934037-marriage-visa-crackdown-immigration-officers-who-demand-extra-fees-to-face-criminal-charges/#entry10994069

Edited July 25, 2016 by Ronuk

[ubonjoe]

It looks to be going to get more difficult.

The bad element continue to make it hard for those that want to do it the correct and legal way.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/934037-marriage-visa-crackdown-immigration-officers-who-demand-extra-fees-to-face-criminal-charges/#entry10994069

Perhaps for a few people but certainly not all. First time applicants might get greater scrutiny as some offices.

[Lorin]

Few questions if I may:

What is Kor Ror 2 exactly? I was under impression marriage certificate is enough for that purpose? If not, can I get Kor Ror from any amphor, or only from the one that marriage registered?

The pictures need to be printed like a real pictures from Photo shop, or just on A4 paper?

I'm on 30 days exempt stamp that has 10 days left, from what I read before you need at least 15 days left to make extension based on marriage? Can I make this extension after "normal" tourist extension of 30 more days ?

It's a supplementary document to the actual marriage certificate with details of the registry. You can get one from any Amphoe.

Yes you should get the pictures printed.

You can extend a 30 day visa exempt entry by another 30 days.

Most immigration offices will accept the photos printed on A4 size paper.

I have never used anything other than photos done that way to get my extensions. My office is happy with a total of 4 photos printed with two 5 X 7 inch photos per sheet. I have used plain paper before but have been using photo paper for the last few extensions.

Thank you, how about the 30 days stamp question? Can I extend based on marriage if less than 15 days left from the entry stamp, and if not can I extend after getting "tourist" extension of additional 30 days?

[ubonjoe]

Thank you, how about the 30 days stamp question? Can I extend based on marriage if less than 15 days left from the entry stamp, and if not can I extend after getting "tourist" extension of additional 30 days?

You cannot apply for a one year extension with a visa exempt entry. You can only apply for a 90 day non immigrant visa entry based upon qualifying (same documents required as an extension application) for an extension based upon marriage at Bangkok immigration. This requires at least 15 days remaining on your entry. Then during the last 30 days of the 90 day entry you could apply for the one year extension.

You could apply for the visa entry the same day you apply for a 30 day extension of your visa exempt entry or up to the last 15 days of it.

You could also apply for a 60 day extension to visit your wife it you needed more time to get ready for the visa application.

[Lorin]

Thank you, how about the 30 days stamp question? Can I extend based on marriage if less than 15 days left from the entry stamp, and if not can I extend after getting "tourist" extension of additional 30 days?

You cannot apply for a one year extension with a visa exempt entry. You can only apply for a 90 day non immigrant visa entry based upon qualifying (same documents required as an extension application) for an extension based upon marriage at Bangkok immigration. This requires at least 15 days remaining on your entry. Then during the last 30 days of the 90 day entry you could apply for the one year extension.

You could apply for the visa entry the same day you apply for a 30 day extension of your visa exempt entry or up to the last 15 days of it.

You could also apply for a 60 day extension to visit your wife it you needed more time to get ready for the visa application.

Thank you very much, I guess I will go to immigration and see what extension option is the easier right now.

[elviajero]

Thank you, how about the 30 days stamp question? Can I extend based on marriage if less than 15 days left from the entry stamp, and if not can I extend after getting "tourist" extension of additional 30 days?

You cannot apply for a one year extension with a visa exempt entry. You can only apply for a 90 day non immigrant visa entry based upon qualifying (same documents required as an extension application) for an extension based upon marriage at Bangkok immigration. This requires at least 15 days remaining on your entry. Then during the last 30 days of the 90 day entry you could apply for the one year extension.

You could apply for the visa entry the same day you apply for a 30 day extension of your visa exempt entry or up to the last 15 days of it.

You could also apply for a 60 day extension to visit your wife it you needed more time to get ready for the visa application.

Thank you very much, I guess I will go to immigration and see what extension option is the easier right now.

If you apply for a 60 day extension to visit your wife she will need to go with you.

[Lorin]

Thank you, how about the 30 days stamp question? Can I extend based on marriage if less than 15 days left from the entry stamp, and if not can I extend after getting "tourist" extension of additional 30 days?

You cannot apply for a one year extension with a visa exempt entry. You can only apply for a 90 day non immigrant visa entry based upon qualifying (same documents required as an extension application) for an extension based upon marriage at Bangkok immigration. This requires at least 15 days remaining on your entry. Then during the last 30 days of the 90 day entry you could apply for the one year extension.

You could apply for the visa entry the same day you apply for a 30 day extension of your visa exempt entry or up to the last 15 days of it.

You could also apply for a 60 day extension to visit your wife it you needed more time to get ready for the visa application.

Thank you very much, I guess I will go to immigration and see what extension option is the easier right now.

If you apply for a 60 day extension to visit your wife she will need to go with you.

Noted, will go immigration next week and update here.

[Lorin]

I've got one more question, i will need to provide information on my residence to the immigration, for the extension, visa conversion and one year extension as well. I'm moving into condo unit in few days time, that the owner is not Thai, but Chinese. What documents will i need to produce for immigration except the lease agreement? I heard about some kind of registration by owners of the condo for foreigners that staying in the unit. I want to know now,cause the landlord will depart after and will not be available. Thanks

Thank you, how about the 30 days stamp question? Can I extend based on marriage if less than 15 days left from the entry stamp, and if not can I extend after getting "tourist" extension of additional 30 days?

You cannot apply for a one year extension with a visa exempt entry. You can only apply for a 90 day non immigrant visa entry based upon qualifying (same documents required as an extension application) for an extension based upon marriage at Bangkok immigration. This requires at least 15 days remaining on your entry. Then during the last 30 days of the 90 day entry you could apply for the one year extension.

You could apply for the visa entry the same day you apply for a 30 day extension of your visa exempt entry or up to the last 15 days of it.

You could also apply for a 60 day extension to visit your wife it you needed more time to get ready for the visa application.

[ubonjoe]

I've got one more question, i will need to provide information on my residence to the immigration, for the extension, visa conversion and one year extension as well. I'm moving into condo unit in few days time, that the owner is not Thai, but Chinese. What documents will i need to produce for immigration except the lease agreement? I heard about some kind of registration by owners of the condo for foreigners that staying in the unit. I want to know now,cause the landlord will depart after and will not be available. Thanks

Thank you, how about the 30 days stamp question? Can I extend based on marriage if less than 15 days left from the entry stamp, and if not can I extend after getting "tourist" extension of additional 30 days?

You cannot apply for a one year extension with a visa exempt entry. You can only apply for a 90 day non immigrant visa entry based upon qualifying (same documents required as an extension application) for an extension based upon marriage at Bangkok immigration. This requires at least 15 days remaining on your entry. Then during the last 30 days of the 90 day entry you could apply for the one year extension.

You could apply for the visa entry the same day you apply for a 30 day extension of your visa exempt entry or up to the last 15 days of it.

You could also apply for a 60 day extension to visit your wife it you needed more time to get ready for the visa application.

You will need a copy of the owners passport and proof of ownership of the condo.