rooster59 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Power of the Internet brings teenage hoodlum to justice - but is the punishment enough? Image: Daily News SURIN: The story of a brazen attack by a 14 year old student on a respected Surin teacher who was also the deputy director of the school has caused much comment in Thailand this week. The attack happened in front of a hundred students and teachers but the school was charged online with a cover up.Despite the teacher being hospitalized with blood on the brain and needing surgery, the school director has now said that the boy will be forgiven and allowed to continue at the school. He will be given some "probation".This is despite the fact that the M1 (Year 8) student has been involved in many misdemeanors in the past.His parents have apologized to the assaulted teacher who is a much loved counsellor of the well known establishment that has not been named.Police have, however, charged the boy with assault.Earlier an online picture of the teacher concerned had been posted by a person using the name Pam Kunnawasakul who referred to their popular teacher as grandfather:The poster said: "This is our grandfather. He has blood on the brain and has had to undergo emergency surgery. He was attacked by a 14 year old M1 student at the school opposite the army base. It was a violent attack on a man who is also the deputy director of the school. He was assaulted in full view of a hundred teachers and students. But it has all gone quiet. Is he just to be left to carry on studying at the school as if nothing happened to our grandfather? The director needs to take action against the student rather than just protect the good name of the school".Reporters caught up with the director yesterday who was not named. He said: "Originally we were going to expel the boy as he has been responsible for multiple infractions. But if we do that it may cause more problems for society than it solves. We need to teach him the right way to behave."The parents have been called in and have apologized to the deputy director. The boy will be put on probation so that he does not repeat this behavior. And the legal process will run its course", he added.The legal process has been somewhat more direct. Police took the boy and his parents to court where he was initially charged with assault This can be upgraded to causing grievous bodily harm if doctors report that the victim is still undergoing treatment after 20 days.He was taken into protective care but an application for bail is expected to be made by the parents. Source: Daily News -- 2016-07-16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldroj Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 He will be given some "probation". Surely, that's a misprint? Shouldn't it be "reprobation". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 The boy is dangerous and the proper example is for him to be expelled and incarcerated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taony Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 And the reporters can't even ask the most basic of follow up questions to this a hole administrator? What problems for society is he going to cause if he gets expelled? He's been at your school causing trouble for a long time and you've taught him jack <deleted>. In fact, by not expelling him, you are causing more damage to society because he's just learned his actions have no consequences! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesbrock Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 And the reporters can't even ask the most basic of follow up questions to this a hole administrator? What problems for society is he going to cause if he gets expelled? He's been at your school causing trouble for a long time and you've taught him jack <deleted>. In fact, by not expelling him, you are causing more damage to society because he's just learned his actions have no consequences! Yep, it's obvious that keeping him in school on probation is failing miserably at teaching him "the right way to behave." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualbiker Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 At 14 and still in M1. I'm guessing he has been held back at least one year, possibly two! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 (edited) "Reporters caught up with the director yesterday who was not named. He said: "Originally we were going to expel the boy as he has been responsible for multiple infractions. But if we do that it may cause more problems for society than it solves. We need to teach him the right way to behave." Ok, I actually agree with that course of action. It is indeed the best way to help the boy and society in the long term. However, how are they going to do this? Probation won't help. The boy requires counselling and additional learning/behavioural support in school. This requires specialist teachers/adults and a properly thought out programme of educational and emotional development. Is he going to get this? Edited July 16, 2016 by Bluespunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phycokiller Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 (edited) The boy is dangerous and the proper example is for him to be expelled and incarcerated. that should work, glad we solved this one so quick Edited July 16, 2016 by phycokiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 (edited) The boy is dangerous and the proper example is for him to be expelled and incarcerated.He's 14, probably failing in school if his age and year group are as reported, obviously has emotional and anger issues. Expelling and gaoling him will not help. I agree probation is a waste of time. What he needs is a programme aimed at developing behaviour management strategies and giving him learning support. However is he going to get this? I have my doubts. Edited July 16, 2016 by Bluespunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Let him return to school,without punishment,and he will probably kill a teacher or someone else,another spoilt mummys boy,who has never been taught how to behave. regards worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 "Reporters caught up with the director yesterday who was not named. He said: "Originally we were going to expel the boy as he has been responsible for multiple infractions. But if we do that it may cause more problems for society than it solves. We need to teach him the right way to behave." Ok, I actually agree with that course of action. It is indeed the best way to help the boy and society in the long term. However, how are they going to do this? Probation won't help. The boy requires counselling and additional learning/behavioural support in school. This requires specialist teachers/adults and a properly thought out programme of educational and emotional development. Is he going to get this? "he boy requires counselling" he needs a really strong attitude adjustment What about a boot camp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berybert Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 I'm amazed he was allowed to attack a teacher in front of an entire school and no one seems to havedone anything to stop him. Why on earth wasnt he given a good kick in ? I am not a fan of violence but sometimes its the only way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovelomsak Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 The boy is dangerous and the proper example is for him to be expelled and incarcerated.He's 14, probably failing in school if his age and year group are as reported, obviously has emotional and anger issues. Expelling and gaoling him will not help.I agree probation is a waste of time. What he needs is a programme aimed at developing behaviour management strategies and giving him learning support. However is he going to get this? I have my doubts. I think expelling and goaling are exactly what he deserves. Who cares if his life keeps going down som na naw. Put him with the rest of the low life,s. Why waste time treating him.Make an example of him or how many times will this be repeated in the future by others who see they can do it with out punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 The boy is dangerous and the proper example is for him to be expelled and incarcerated.He's 14, probably failing in school if his age and year group are as reported, obviously has emotional and anger issues. Expelling and gaoling him will not help.I agree probation is a waste of time. What he needs is a programme aimed at developing behaviour management strategies and giving him learning support. However is he going to get this? I have my doubts. I think expelling and goaling are exactly what he deserves. Who cares if his life keeps going down som na naw. Put him with the rest of the low life,s. Why waste time treating him.Make an example of him or how many times will this be repeated in the future by others who see they can do it with out punishment. I care if his life keeps getting worse. He's 14 and you want to just abandon him, give up on him? How is he ever going to turn his life around with that sort of appalling attitude. In the long term helping him benefits society as a whole, the fewer adults we have trapped in cycles of violence, punishment, more violence and crime the better for us all. At 14 he can be helped and any society that cannot see or do that is one that is storing up further problems for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorayme Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 He does need counseling and a good caning in front of the entire student body. At least 50 lashes Singapore style would give him something to remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 He does need counseling and a good caning in front of the entire student body. At least 50 lashes Singapore style would give him something to remember. Violence won't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thai3 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 should be thrashed in front of the whole School Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caps Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 (edited) There is no wonder that things like this continue to happen in Thailand, as it seems whatever you do if you are Thai you can get away with. Its a shame that is no more respect for life and the law Edited July 16, 2016 by Caps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muhendis Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 I read in the earlier report that the teacher was a special needs teacher which would explain why the pupil was such a low grade for his age. The boy seems to be in need of psychiatric help and kept in a place where his antisocial actions can be controlled until such time as he can be judged to be an acceptable addition to society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeegee Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Amazed someone didn't throw in the classic "He didn't take his medicine" excuse. What I take from this story is it happens to the Thai teachers too. You know, having a trouble maker be let off the hook with a half smirked apology as if it's anything but an indignity on the teacher and positive reinforcement for the bad behaviour. So it wasn't just me, just a falang, and that these people do it to themselves too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfiddler Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Actually the only thing to do with an animal like this is to take him and his parents behind the school and give them the Chinese Treatment. Otherwise a great danger to the public and they will cause much grief in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 "Reporters caught up with the director yesterday who was not named. He said: "Originally we were going to expel the boy as he has been responsible for multiple infractions. But if we do that it may cause more problems for society than it solves. We need to teach him the right way to behave." Ok, I actually agree with that course of action. It is indeed the best way to help the boy and society in the long term. However, how are they going to do this? Probation won't help. The boy requires counselling and additional learning/behavioural support in school. This requires specialist teachers/adults and a properly thought out programme of educational and emotional development. Is he going to get this? He doesnt need probation he needs sorting out followed by some rest and recreation time in the local hospital. He is a thug in the making and will never change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 The poster said: "This is our grandfather. He has blood on the brain and has had to undergo emergency surgery. He was attacked by a 14 year old M1 student at the school opposite the army base. It was a violent attack on a man who is also the deputy director of the school. He was assaulted in full view of a hundred teachers and students. But it has all gone quiet. Is he just to be left to carry on studying at the school as if nothing happened to our grandfather? The director needs to take action against the student rather than just protect the good name of the school". Who ever wrote this internet post has a better grasp of the English language than everyone on the Nation and at least as good as most of the posters on TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little mary sunshine Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Psycho with no regard for others.....yes Mom and Dad Call in and apologize for your "little darling". He will Probably kill you next!! Needs to be institutalized For mental health before it's to late for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 "Reporters caught up with the director yesterday who was not named. He said: "Originally we were going to expel the boy as he has been responsible for multiple infractions. But if we do that it may cause more problems for society than it solves. We need to teach him the right way to behave." Ok, I actually agree with that course of action. It is indeed the best way to help the boy and society in the long term. However, how are they going to do this? Probation won't help. The boy requires counselling and additional learning/behavioural support in school. This requires specialist teachers/adults and a properly thought out programme of educational and emotional development. Is he going to get this? He doesnt need probation he needs sorting out followed by some rest and recreation time in the local hospital. He is a thug in the making and will never change. Not with the closed mind set you espouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 The boy is dangerous and the proper example is for him to be expelled and incarcerated.He's 14, probably failing in school if his age and year group are as reported, obviously has emotional and anger issues. Expelling and gaoling him will not help.I agree probation is a waste of time. What he needs is a programme aimed at developing behaviour management strategies and giving him learning support. However is he going to get this? I have my doubts. I think expelling and goaling are exactly what he deserves. Who cares if his life keeps going down som na naw. Put him with the rest of the low life,s. Why waste time treating him.Make an example of him or how many times will this be repeated in the future by others who see they can do it with out punishment. I care if his life keeps getting worse. He's 14 and you want to just abandon him, give up on him? How is he ever going to turn his life around with that sort of appalling attitude. In the long term helping him benefits society as a whole, the fewer adults we have trapped in cycles of violence, punishment, more violence and crime the better for us all. At 14 he can be helped and any society that cannot see or do that is one that is storing up further problems for the future. some people,like my neighbours son, are just born bad,they cant be helped,ultimately he will kill someone. Even the neighbours mother of her wayward son with multiple indictments since he was 12 (he is now16) rues the day he was born,he has cost the parents a fortune in fines,nothing seems to help,he is just bad to the bone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjaidee Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 (edited) I'm amazed he was allowed to attack a teacher in front of an entire school and no one seems to havedone anything to stop him. Why on earth wasnt he given a good kick in ? I am not a fan of violence but sometimes its the only way. Violence is never, ever, under any circumstances, okay in a school, either by teachers or students. EDIT Addition: Just because a student has been violent it does not give any teachers any right to reciprocate with violence. Restraint, yes, but violence, no. Edited July 16, 2016 by samjaidee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhd Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 he gets away with this, next he will get away with murder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanukjim Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 The boy is dangerous and the proper example is for him to be expelled and incarcerated. He needs somebody to break his legs for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berybert Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 I'm amazed he was allowed to attack a teacher in front of an entire school and no one seems to havedone anything to stop him. Why on earth wasnt he given a good kick in ? I am not a fan of violence but sometimes its the only way. Violence is never, ever, under any circumstances, okay in a school, either by teachers or students. EDIT Addition: Just because a student has been violent it does not give any teachers any right to reciprocate with violence. Restraint, yes, but violence, no. What do you suggest ? give the boy a hug and some flowers. Forget about the poor old teacher in hospital with possible brain damage. The sooner tree huggers are consigned to history the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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