webfact Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Court refuses to charge Ying Gai with human traffickingBy Coconuts BangkokPhoto: JS100BANGKOK: -- The Criminal Court yesterday rejected a police request to charge Ying Gai with an additional human trafficking charge due to lack of evidence.However, acting chief of Metropolitan Police Bureau Pol. Lt. Sanit Mahathavorn said he has appointed an investigative team to probe the human-trafficking case against Monta "Ying Gai" Yokrattanakan after the prior investigation found that she had allegedly employed a 17-year-old girl from Mae Hong Sorn province a job but refused to pay her.The girl also said Ying Gai threatened to prosecute her parents when she quit her job. Police believed the girl could have been trafficked if she had stayed with Ying Gai, Bangkok Post reported.Full story: http://bangkok.coconuts.co/2016/07/18/court-refuses-charge-ying-gai-human-trafficking-- Coconuts Bangkok 2016-07-18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattayaBoy Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Girls saying they were offered jobs in HK Passports found in her house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaltsc Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 "The Criminal Court yesterday rejected a police request to charge Ying Gai with an additional human trafficking charge due to lack of evidence." Won't be any charges until the ledger is found and destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesbrock Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Court refuses to charge Ying Gai with human trafficking Of course they do. Justice, Thai style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seajae Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 well they have to keep all the hi-so's names out of this somehow, makes you wonder just who was backing her, obviously people high enough up in the law enforcement/courts for all the ones she had locked up with bugger all evidence. Will be interesting to see just what names do get bandied about if she doesnt have an unfortunate accident before hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkokfrog Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 The end game seems to be set in place already. The only charges will be under section 112, heard in a military court with no outside observers. Depending on how much her "protectors" have to hide, she will either be found unfit to plead because of insanity or shut away form the world where nobody can get to her. Unless of course she has an unfortunate accident or decides to jump off a building, as some others who had dirt on those higher up the ladder seem to have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 (edited) wasn't there something earlier about finding multiple Official Passports?? ...maybe she had had a lot more initially - and used them up: tampering with them for using with the girls (her little princesses), to hide their tracks overseas But then, I don't think she'd be THAT smart Edited July 18, 2016 by tifino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirtless Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 She will still pay a heavy price for her nefarious actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bung Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Ha. They didn't look very hard then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Is it not for the police to charge and the courts to examine the evidence and convict??? I would say their seems to be a lot of good reason to suspect her of this but probably more investigations are needed to collect evidence, she should be charged to stop her fleeing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bung Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 She'll walk soon. She's had a good taste of what will happen if she says too much and if she had half a brain she will get a haircut, some new sunglasses and scarf then slip into obscurity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borzandy Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 You can not be a human trafficker if you are rich ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Another influential person getting away with trafficking charges,..... Thailand.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfiddler Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Obvious that she was a trafficker, and God help any who refused to be trafficked ! A totally evil person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOUTHERNSTAR Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 The end game seems to be set in place already. The only charges will be under section 112, heard in a military court with no outside observers. Depending on how much her "protectors" have to hide, she will either be found unfit to plead because of insanity or shut away form the world where nobody can get to her. Unless of course she has an unfortunate accident or decides to jump off a building, as some others who had dirt on those higher up the ladder seem to have done. You forgot the end game. She keeps her mouth shut and are pardoned after 3 years or talk and commit suicide by stabbing herself with a tea spoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toybits Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Yeah! Just like the Redbull Heir. She will still pay a heavy price for her nefarious actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Yeah! Just like the Redbull Heir. She will still pay a heavy price for her nefarious actions. she can join up with him, and traffic Caffeine into the prison - what, with her 'business acume', and his Contacts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayduke Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 (edited) Unfortunately they will probably stick with the LM charge (that appeared almost too quickly) and find insufficient cause to prosecute (or bury) everything else. Next, the whole thing will get dragged out long enough for everyone to forget about it. A few months should be enough. Then the secret tribunal (showing great compassion for her unfortunate mental illness) will quietly find her guilty and grant parole with the condition that she give up claiming a royal title. And...at the end of the day...she'll walk. Edited July 18, 2016 by Hayduke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Is it not for the police to charge and the courts to examine the evidence and convict??? I would say their seems to be a lot of good reason to suspect her of this but probably more investigations are needed to collect evidence, she should be charged to stop her fleeing... I agree it is the Office of the Attorney General who decides whether to prosecute based on evidence and information collected by a RTP investigation. The court judges guilt or innocence. In the case of Gai with regard to human trafficking I don't believe there was sufficent evidence currently to prosecute for human trafficking, albeit many other charges should be brought that can now be justified before the court. The court should have no authority to decide prosecution. It might warn the prosecution that it lacks evidence to convict in camera but denying charges is totally inappropriate. This inconsistent and arbritary use of the court damages the credibility of Thailand's judicial system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanukjim Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Girls saying they were offered jobs in HK Passports found in her house So ,how much did the court judges receive this week ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dageurreotype Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Is it not for the police to charge and the courts to examine the evidence and convict??? I would say their seems to be a lot of good reason to suspect her of this but probably more investigations are needed to collect evidence, she should be charged to stop her fleeing... I agree it is the Office of the Attorney General who decides whether to prosecute based on evidence and information collected by a RTP investigation. The court judges guilt or innocence. In the case of Gai with regard to human trafficking I don't believe there was sufficent evidence currently to prosecute for human trafficking, albeit many other charges should be brought that can now be justified before the court. The court should have no authority to decide prosecution. It might warn the prosecution that it lacks evidence to convict in camera but denying charges is totally inappropriate. This inconsistent and arbritary use of the court damages the credibility of Thailand's judicial system. What Thailand never had cannot be 'damaged'. Tinpot little country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Christmas13 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Girls saying they were offered jobs in HK Passports found in her house So ,how much did the court judges receive this week ? You talking about evidence ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayk Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Since when is it the courts duty to reject a charge. It's not, it's the police duty to charge her with whatever and her lawyer to beat the charges in court. Something fishy going on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xineohp Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Thailand has a somewhat different legal system to that of many other countries, particularly western oriented countries. One was always under the impression that the police and/or a public prosecutor laid the charges and the courts ruled on them. Thai courts apparently lay charges but who then rules impartially on those same charges? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 (edited) Is it not for the police to charge and the courts to examine the evidence and convict??? I would say their seems to be a lot of good reason to suspect her of this but probably more investigations are needed to collect evidence, she should be charged to stop her fleeing... actually it is up to the cops do decide what case will be prosecuted. in many cases a fee is paid to the police to not send the case to the prosecutors or sent with a reduction in the crime. i have been through this process with work permit problems. odd that the courts would refuse a case. i suspect as thailand is now tier 2 with human trafficking the cops have been asked politely to drop that part to get it out of the spot light. Edited July 18, 2016 by williamgeorgeallen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcnx Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Girls saying they were offered jobs in HK Passports found in her house Brown envelope delivered. But it wasn't to clear her completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 (edited) Trouble is with only going with the L.M. and not following through with the 'trafficking; IS that the girls and families with prison terms threatening them, will have no case to serve as a precedent Edited July 18, 2016 by tifino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thechook Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) Thailand has a somewhat different legal system to that of many other countries, particularly western oriented countries. One was always under the impression that the police and/or a public prosecutor laid the charges and the courts ruled on them. Thai courts apparently lay charges but who then rules impartially on those same charges?My thoughts exactly. It appears everything starts and ends with the court. The court decides who can be arrested, who can be charged and they finalise the case. In a proper judicial system the police investigate, arrest and charge, prosecutors prosecute and the final link the courts determine guilt or innocence. Edited July 19, 2016 by Thechook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 ....duhhh...how about the dozens of victims....witnesses.......??? ....here we go....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Court refuses to charge her Maybe someone in the court has something to hide, something she knows and could bring out in the open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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