Disgusting! Thais online pass judgment on foreigners' lewd behaviour on Koh Phi Phi

[tandor]

The two minute clip.

...showing my age..i would need at least a two hour clip.

[The Usual Suspect]

Stupid people do stupid things. I once worked the overnight shift in a "Big C" type store in the U.S., so we used to get a lot of odd sods in at those hours, especially during carnival season. One fine night, I walked around the corner into my aisle to commence my tasks, and there was a couple, she in a mini skirt with no underpants, and her male friend banging her in the backside. It definitely made my night a bit more interesting. The really stupid thing was that the place was bristling with CCTV cameras. Needless to say, security escorted them out of the store in quick fashion! The videos were a real hoot!

[farcanell]

Yes it was dumb but if it was on Miami Beach or a Greek island would we thing twice NO

If it were done on a sidewalk in Miami beach the police would arrest the pair and the two would have the label 'sex offender' for life.

That does not happen with mutual consent.

Bull puckey- it would be public indecency and you'd be in the pokey in Maimi whilst there was still dew on the lily. You get locked up in the US for far less.

Perhaps I should have been more specific but I was referring to the part about being classified as a Sex Offender...the part of the quote you intentionally left out of your response...possibly because you would have lacked any argument?

Same in the UK Straight onto the sex offenders register for public exposure of a male member. Quite right too. Some behavior is for behind closed doors and sexual intimacy is such behaviour. I hope their parents, schools and community see this video.

Seems like some high hanging, by the balls , no less.

Being a little more "laid back", down under.... We consider stuff like this, quite seriously as well... Sometimes video material is used in considering said stuff.

But, depending on the State .... From a $200 fine to two years in prison, depending on the act, place, context etc

To get onto the sex offenders list, you need to be a deviant ( vs a quick shag behind the rose bush type of guy) having received a five year plus sentence, which would include kiddy fiddlers, repeat offenders, violent offenders and rapists etc

To me, it's seems like a couple of drunken foreigners, enjoying themselves a little too much, in a country that has more venues selling alcohol, than is needed in the entire world... And at day's end, it didn't appear to have that much of a sticky ending anyway

[farcanell]

This kind of thing leaves a nasty taste in my mouth!

Perhaps you should get some flavored chewing gum to fix that.

[neverdie]

Stupid people do stupid things. I once worked the overnight shift in a "Big C" type store in the U.S., so we used to get a lot of odd sods in at those hours, especially during carnival season. One fine night, I walked around the corner into my aisle to commence my tasks, and there was a couple, she in a mini skirt with no underpants, and her male friend banging her in the backside. It definitely made my night a bit more interesting. The really stupid thing was that the place was bristling with CCTV cameras. Needless to say, security escorted them out of the store in quick fashion! The videos were a real hoot!

What grubby people.

[BaldPlumber]

This kind of thing leaves a nasty taste in my mouth!

Perhaps you should get some flavored chewing gum to fix that.

As opposed to the ever popular unflavored chewing gum?

[Howitzer]

were a thai man and woman to do that say in some western country say the US or UK these types condoning the behavior in the video would change 180 degrees and instantly flame the thai man and woman.

Remember guys it's not the actions that people are judged on but who they are. I noticed farang are always let off or given an easier pass by other farang aka the readers here who would bash thais/Chinese for lesser offences.

What are you jabbering about and trying to put words in peoples's mouths?

Nobody is condoning the behavior...they are just saying this is not the Scandal some suggest.

As for playing the race card, again, you have just made certain accusations against fellow posters concerning race of the couple simply so that you might build an argument and rally an attack.

Your entire post is the very definition of a Strawman argument.

so it's ok to get a blowjob in front of other ppl in public in western countries without getting flamed like that?

I am not sure how you come to the conclusions that you do but my suggestion to you would be to get a BJ here rather than in a Western Nation.

Too many crazy women in the US who were willing partners at the time will come back later and say they were drugged or forced against their will as soon as you reach Stardom.

Let's compare apples to apples and not apples to oranges.

I am saying let's assume it was an asian preferbly thai couple who committed the same exact acts in that open area but instead in a western country say the US. Would they get yelled at by passing farangs? If they did get yelled and harrassed at in the same manner like what was seen in that video would you defend that thai couple and bash the other farangs having a go at them?

[farcanell]

Frankly, I find what they did not only disgusting but an example of 2 very selfish people who cannot control their urges and have no concept of right and wrong. They should be fined and put on the next plane back to where they came from. That is the only way they will learn what proper decorum is. It's is no wonder Thai people believe foreigners are degenerate. The fact they were American is an embarrassment to me as a citizen of the country. If this had happened in the US- they would have been arrested- charged with indecent exposure and if convicted - have to register as a sex offender. Their future would be bleak.

Wow thaidream... Are you in luck today!

Only half the duo was American.... So you need only be half as embarrassed... And less embarrassed if you factor in that the chick was the American.... And who couldn't find it in their heart to excuse such a giving young soul?

So buck up, old chum, it's not all bad

[neverdie]

"Put them in Jail"

Really? What for?

Tell them off, she's already slut shamed. Job done. No biggie.

Although I agree with you I don't think its right to call her a slut for doing what human beings do everywhere.

Its biology man.

I have alot more problem with all these peeping tom types who can hardly wait to bust out their camera so they can post pictures of other peoples indescetion or misfortune and the holier than thou gang full of old biddy attitudes.

What a good sort. You wouldn't happen to have her number or know what bar she works in would you CC?

I know a Scottish chap that would love to trade up to something as smoking hot has that !

[Songlaw]

Anyone who cannot see how this type of thing is contributing directly to the rapid deterioration in the general attitudes that Thai have toward farang, and the predictable increase in seemingly (to idiots) 'random acts of aggression,' needs to have his/her/its head examined. There are still many older, reserved and respectable Thai out and about, and some maintain positions of power accompanied by well-deserved grudges. This is not ever going to wash with them. I don't give a damn what may or may not be going on in the bars. That has no bearing on this conversation. This is absolutely the wrong culture for this sh*t, period, and we are kidding ourselves if we think our lives are not about to get much more difficult as a consequence of this act. Either officially, or unofficially, every freaking farang pays for this degree of stupidity. For those of us not cocooned away in some back-soi bar, or insulated by a Lao Khao induced stupor, this ought not be welcomed news.

Thailand leads the world in marital infidelity, use of prostitutes by men, and hypocrisy. Thai wives prefer their husbands to have uncomplicated sex with a prostitute as they perceive the alternative - having a relationship with a Mia Noi to be more threatening to their position.

When it comes to throwing stones at Foreigners sexual habits they live in glass houses, those who have achieved positions of power probably more than most as positions of power are very attractive to potential Mia Noi s..

This was not a particularly discreet act - but to imagine it will have any affect on the way Thais view foreigners is lending it an importance it doesn't deserve.

Reality is somewhat like an onion. We are just focused on different layers, neither of which precludes the other. If you swapped out, 'leads the world,' for, 'is a world leader' (a subtle but important difference, as statistics are both fluid and inherently biased), I would be in one hundred percent agreement, were we discussing your layer, which I am perfectly willing to do. But, this is not that.

[Nayet]

The only thing objectionable about this is I wasn't the one getting serviced.

You are a bunch of uptight prudes.

For anyone who gets offended by this sort of thing, there is a very easy solution. If you don't know what it is, let me know and I'll share.

[D3030]

The only thing objectionable about this is I wasn't the one getting serviced.

You are a bunch of uptight prudes.

For anyone who gets offended by this sort of thing, there is a very easy solution. If you don't know what it is, let me know and I'll share.

Many agree, the BJ in itself, is not offensive..

It's doing it public, for children of all ages can see.

And, it's a discussion between people with different points of view..

And the wrong site for a lonely person, wishing they could get a BJ period..

[farcanell]

Anyone who cannot see how this type of thing is contributing directly to the rapid deterioration in the general attitudes that Thai have toward farang, and the predictable increase in seemingly (to idiots) 'random acts of aggression,' needs to have his/her/its head examined. There are still many older, reserved and respectable Thai out and about, and some maintain positions of power accompanied by well-deserved grudges. This is not ever going to wash with them. I don't give a damn what may or may not be going on in the bars. That has no bearing on this conversation. This is absolutely the wrong culture for this sh*t, period, and we are kidding ourselves if we think our lives are not about to get much more difficult as a consequence of this act. Either officially, or unofficially, every freaking farang pays for this degree of stupidity. For those of us not cocooned away in some back-soi bar, or insulated by a Lao Khao induced stupor, this ought not be welcomed news.

Thailand leads the world in marital infidelity, use of prostitutes by men, and hypocrisy. Thai wives prefer their husbands to have uncomplicated sex with a prostitute as they perceive the alternative - having a relationship with a Mia Noi to be more threatening to their position.

When it comes to throwing stones at Foreigners sexual habits they live in glass houses, those who have achieved positions of power probably more than most as positions of power are very attractive to potential Mia Noi s..

This was not a particularly discreet act - but to imagine it will have any affect on the way Thais view foreigners is lending it an importance it doesn't deserve.

Reality is somewhat like an onion. We are just focused on different layers, neither of which precludes the other. If you swapped out, 'leads the world,' for, 'is a world leader' (a subtle but important difference, as statistics are both fluid and inherently biased), I would be in one hundred percent agreement, were we discussing your layer, which I am perfectly willing to do. But, this is not that.

Regardless of personal opinions... That was really well written Songlaw... Good post???

[Nayet]

The only thing objectionable about this is I wasn't the one getting serviced.

You are a bunch of uptight prudes.

For anyone who gets offended by this sort of thing, there is a very easy solution. If you don't know what it is, let me know and I'll share.

Many agree, the BJ in itself, is not offensive..

It's doing it public, for children of all ages can see.

And, it's a discussion between people with different points of view..

And the wrong site for a lonely person, wishing they could get a BJ period..

Why is children seeing people having sex such a horrific thing? I would argue they don't get the least bit offended, especially if it's not their own parents doing it. We pretend that we want to protect our children from it, but in realty it is the parents who feel uncomfortable, not our children. So it's the parents' problem, is it not? I'd probably feel uncomfortable too if my (hypothetical) son and I had walked past this couple, but throwing them in jail? Come on. It's a brief awkward moment, not the severe trauma many of you are making it out to be.

[BadBouy]

Fancy having a go at the Thai man!

Here's a bloke coping a BJ in public where passers by could be young children and posters on here trying to defend a couple yanks who like some many other tourists reckon they can come to Thailand and anything goes with no respect to the country.

Great work in giving another black eye to farangs you pair of idiots..

I do not think they are from the US. The way she says America also she says to him no worries just before that, not a popular american phrase. No BBcap, too thin, clothing seems off. Plenty from the US capable of this probably why she passed the blame. I guess at least she is smart enough not to shame her fellow countrymen.

[mojorison]

As a Brit living in Thailand, I find it astonishing any adult Westerner would attempt to condone the appalling and offensive behavior of this young couple, irrespective of whether they were drunk or sober.

Contrary to what some posters claim, having sex in a public place is unlawful across the world - and certainly in Greece where friends of mine were actually arrested and imprisoned on Crete for daring to sunbathe without clothes.]

If there are countries where having sex in the street is considered normal I would like to know where they are, so I can ensure my family and I never end up in such godforsaken places.

Meanwhile,those of you who believe it is acceptable to inflict your "anything goes" attitudes on the indigenous populations of any country in which you are a guest should consider getting the next plane home.

When in Rome. . .

Visit the full moon party and you will see shagging everywhere. In the disco, on the beach, on the steps to the pub and naturally in any body of water. Pool, sea, sewer. The kids, (mostly the young English kids will root anywhere, I can attest to the general lack of self respect the young English have compared with other nationalities. It's real.I base this on 30 years experience in the business, here, where it happens. (A few km away, in truth, where it it not as effed up) It is disgusting, but they do it because no one tells them not to. They think, okay I did this yesterday... lets see how this goes today. They are eagerly assisted in their disorderly conduct by the bevvy of Thais who either prey on them, for money or sex or simply the opportunity to rape or bottle a whitey. Or the other group who denigrate and judge all westerners because of what they witness in their microcosm of what they believe to be a western reality, and yet they still tolerate the behaviour because it's "good for business" LOL. And the Thais are the masters of irresponsible alcohol service (and yes the vendor/licensee does take responsibility for intoxicated customers, and is punished accordingly.. not here. No limits. Take what you want as much as you want, and get away with anything. As long as you don't offend the Thais magical and mysterious moral compass and distorted value system based on archaic faux outrage and other points of derision. You may know Rome, but you certainly have no idea of LOS. The Thais in these places, or the ones who stand to make a buck, (read RTP) have filthy minds, and evil demeanours. And will do anything for money. They have a price, and it's very cheap. The Thais allow this abhorrent behaviour. If they genuinely disapprove then don't allow it. Or find a government and police force who actually have a social conscience, and will protect real human values. Thailand... family friendly I ask you?? 55555

KPA is well off the beaten track being 3 islands away from the mainland. It is an exception to the rule being a western playground. KPP is no such place and the kids having sex in public where both stupid and shameless for not knowing this. Such behaviour is indefensible. If a man gets his member out in public or a girl fellates a man in public in a family resort they should be arrested.

Off the beaten track? Are you serious. It has a major rave every month with between 8000 minimum to 20,000+ max. making it one of the biggest tourist entertainment zones in the world. It is not a remote, out of the way anomaly. It is the benchmark of young tourists behaviour in Thailand. And sets the standard for their actions throughout the rest of Thailand. It is a Thai problem. Not a farang problem.

[Johnniey]

What a load of nonsense. People even blaming the Thai man!

And all the reference to prostitution , mia nois etc.This is behind closed doors or in areas that everyone knows are red light areas.

When I first came here you never ever saw Thais even holding hands. 15 years ago or so I saw the occasional Uni students holding hands around trendy places like Siam square but they would never do it in front of their parents even now.

What part of culture do you not understand? No public affection, it ain't rocket science and even tourists should read about it before coming.

[Johpa]

Disgusting! Every day on ThaiVisa online ex-pats pass judgment on Thai's behaviour in Thailand of all places.

[Johnniey]

Disgusting! Every day on ThaiVisa online ex-pats pass judgment on Thai's behaviour in Thailand of all places.

They probably not expats but retirees. Real expats value their time more and integrate with Thai people, unlike the retired Butcher from Birmingham. They have totally forgotten what is is like to be young and free.

[JHolmesJr]

The only thing objectionable about this is I wasn't the one getting serviced.

You are a bunch of uptight prudes.

For anyone who gets offended by this sort of thing, there is a very easy solution. If you don't know what it is, let me know and I'll share.

Man....your ignorance on Asia is staggering.

[Rc2702]

Not sure about this seems like a play. Is this news verifiable via any other sources. If real surely we would know all about the offenders? Just an odd scenario all round. Footfall in all directions yh let's do it here? Chap with very strange accent maybe Barbados yet he is speaking in a manner which suggests he has limited english. Very odd behaviour so odd it is very hard to believe.

[jerojero]

A line really crossed this time. <deleted>.

[smotherb]

Nothing to discuss, there is a time and a place for many things, but this is simply not done !

What do you mean, " . . . this is simply not done!"? There is a video of it.

My apologies, I will try to avoid the mistake next time.

This post was written in a local dialect called "English language."

Yes, please do. Your quaint self-described colloquialism is misstatement at best.

[metisdead]

Off topic generalization posts and replies have been removed.

[DM07]

I just don't get it!

You want to be outraged?

Over a blowjob?

Seriously?

I could give you list of things, to be outraged over- in Thailand, as Thais (or Thai'er than Thai- farangs) or elsewhere!

2 consenting adults going at each other in public...that is, what get's your blood boiling?

Strange times, indeed!

[Nayet]

I just don't get it!

You want to be outraged?

Over a blowjob?

Seriously?

I could give you list of things, to be outraged over- in Thailand, as Thais (or Thai'er than Thai- farangs) or elsewhere!

2 consenting adults going at each other in public...that is, what get's your blood boiling?

Strange times, indeed!

I understand that it may make some people uncomfortable, but I agree, outraged? Calling for their imprisonment? It is reminiscent of the primitive mindset of Muslims who get outraged when someone draws a cartoon of their prophet.

[Nayet]

The only thing objectionable about this is I wasn't the one getting serviced.

You are a bunch of uptight prudes.

For anyone who gets offended by this sort of thing, there is a very easy solution. If you don't know what it is, let me know and I'll share.

Man....your ignorance on Asia is staggering.

What does my "ignorance on Asia" have to do with this?

[D3030]

The only thing objectionable about this is I wasn't the one getting serviced.

You are a bunch of uptight prudes.

For anyone who gets offended by this sort of thing, there is a very easy solution. If you don't know what it is, let me know and I'll share.

Many agree, the BJ in itself, is not offensive..

It's doing it public, for children of all ages can see.

And, it's a discussion between people with different points of view..

And the wrong site for a lonely person, wishing they could get a BJ period..

Why is children seeing people having sex such a horrific thing? I would argue they don't get the least bit offended, especially if it's not their own parents doing it. We pretend that we want to protect our children from it, but in realty it is the parents who feel uncomfortable, not our children. So it's the parents' problem, is it not? I'd probably feel uncomfortable too if my (hypothetical) son and I had walked past this couple, but throwing them in jail? Come on. It's a brief awkward moment, not the severe trauma many of you are making it out to be.

I never said throw them in jail.. But they should be..

Never said anything about severe trauma..

Kids of 'all age' is including "all ages", not just children.

And, if you or others are having sex in front of your/their children, then that's your/their business.

Just like others, missing the point, that it's not the act of having sex..

It's sex in public.. Or "BREAKING THE LAW!"

Then, there some people discusted for the act itself, no matter where it's being done at.

Anyway.. The American female, just met the Irish guy in a bar earlier that day.

Who knows how many women he had during his vacation? And she's just bobbing away without a care in the world..

Personally, if public sex was legal, she can go ahead service the entire U.S. Navy's, 7th Fleet..

I could careless!

I normally reply to other posters, when I disagree with their opinion.

[animatic]

The only thing objectionable about this is I wasn't the one getting serviced.

You are a bunch of uptight prudes.

For anyone who gets offended by this sort of thing, there is a very easy solution. If you don't know what it is, let me know and I'll share.

Many agree, the BJ in itself, is not offensive..

It's doing it public, for children of all ages can see.

And, it's a discussion between people with different points of view..

And the wrong site for a lonely person, wishing they could get a BJ period..

Why is children seeing people having sex such a horrific thing? I would argue they don't get the least bit offended, especially if it's not their own parents doing it. We pretend that we want to protect our children from it, but in realty it is the parents who feel uncomfortable, not our children. So it's the parents' problem, is it not? I'd probably feel uncomfortable too if my (hypothetical) son and I had walked past this couple, but throwing them in jail? Come on. It's a brief awkward moment, not the severe trauma many of you are making it out to be.

It is also notable that for millennia couples have been having sex with their kids in the same room.

Not just the kids, but the farm animals too, and whatever happened to crawl in the crevices.

There was ONLY ONE ROOM, there was often one bed, and reproduction was just part of

the life process of providing shelter, food and physical protection from predators.

And creating more family members to help with the work load and replace those dying young.

And of course the animals did it too without the slightest concern for the kids watching them.

People from early ages knew about reproduction and general rutting between males and females of all species.

It is really only in the last few hundred years world wide that sex started to be hidden and kept away from the kids.

And in Thailand it is only since130 years back when visits by prudish Victorian diplomats who started

looking upset at topless women and thais former sexual openness, that ' propriety' suddenly became

such a huge issues for Thais.

As to the "Sex Industry", if they can't provide education for the girls to have options,

then they can not shut down and 'Industry' they puts food on their tables and fixes the hole in the roof.

Whining about it being immoral, is not going to stop it no matter how many shows

of police ineptitude masquerading as enforcement are put on for the news sources.

What's immoral is that the officialdom has not fixed the root cause in any substantive way.

[Nayet]

The only thing objectionable about this is I wasn't the one getting serviced.

You are a bunch of uptight prudes.

For anyone who gets offended by this sort of thing, there is a very easy solution. If you don't know what it is, let me know and I'll share.

Many agree, the BJ in itself, is not offensive..

It's doing it public, for children of all ages can see.

And, it's a discussion between people with different points of view..

And the wrong site for a lonely person, wishing they could get a BJ period..

Why is children seeing people having sex such a horrific thing? I would argue they don't get the least bit offended, especially if it's not their own parents doing it. We pretend that we want to protect our children from it, but in realty it is the parents who feel uncomfortable, not our children. So it's the parents' problem, is it not? I'd probably feel uncomfortable too if my (hypothetical) son and I had walked past this couple, but throwing them in jail? Come on. It's a brief awkward moment, not the severe trauma many of you are making it out to be.

I never said throw them in jail.. But they should be..

Never said anything about severe trauma..

Kids of 'all age' is including "all ages", not just children.

And, if you or others are having sex in front of your/their children, then that's your/their business.

Just like others, missing the point, that it's not the act of having sex..

If I had actually said that it was about the sex act, you might have had a point.