Video: Thai bouncers vs British tourists - two charged with assault

[NativeSon360]

15 minutes ago, Father Fintan Stack said:

 

Apologies. I will ignore all facts and statistical data in future in lieu of your anecdotal evidence. 

All that I "know", is what I personally observe, and experience. The Brits need to wise-up, and leave their East_Ender attitudes @ home. Period! You are welcome to add my posts to your "ignore" list. Capisce, Padre? Huh?

Edited August 17, 2016 by NativeSon360

[gdgbb]

1 hour ago, Brer Fox said:

More free advertising for TAT. Come to Thailand and get your head kicked in by Thai thugs. One elderly British lady found that out not so long ago.

I will do my part in spreading the story.

 

We've noticed.  But why are you so keen to do so, what have you got against Thailand?  Do you spread details of the good stories that are reported also?

[balo]

Thailand is not the best country to be drunk and stupid in . Unfortunately , 1000's of them are coming here every day to drink and "have fun". . Incidents like these are waiting to happen . 

[dcnx]

1 hour ago, The manic said:

The drunks should be kicked out of Thailand.

 

Curious, who served them booze until they were drunk?

 

Also curious, who owns the street all those bars are on, and who owns the bars, bars created for one purpose, to serve toursist?

 

If you guessed, Thais, you win. Have a beer.

 

So why should people the Thais helped to get drunk get kicked out of the country when their only real crime was being drunk?

[Shawn0000]

17 minutes ago, Johnniey said:

I've lived here for over 30 years and say Thailand is one of the safest places in the world, unless you are an idiot in tourist places.

Thais are very very tolerant people in general.

 

Nah, just as dangerous to be an idiot in non tourist places.

[LuckyNo4]

If you look carefully youll see that the bouncer is hitting the guy on the floor with a metal telescopic truncheon. Hes beating him with a weapon while hes down as well as his mate kicking him in the head.

[NativeSon360]

17 minutes ago, balo said:

Thailand is not the best country to be drunk and stupid in . Unfortunately , 1000's of them are coming here every day to drink and "have fun". . Incidents like these are waiting to happen . 

No country, anywhere on this planet is the best country to be drunk and stupid in. Thais have their own brand of "bad-asses", same as all countries. Unfortunately, many of the Brit tourists fail to recognize that fact. The Aussies, Brits and Yanks who do "get-it", are probably those who have worked in the Persian Gulf region.

Edited August 17, 2016 by NativeSon360

[NativeSon360]

1 hour ago, Father Fintan Stack said:

Kicking tourists in the head when they are on the ground is becoming a national pastime here. 

 

No, not just becoming a favorite pass-time activity among Thais. Ganging-up-on, and then kicking a downed person in the face (especially a foreigner),  is integral with the cultural "character" of the Asian menfolk mentality, from India to the South China Sea. Anytime a man will readily intimidate, then "beat" on a woman, then that man is "fundamentally" a coward. The coward is the most dangerous personality type on the planet. Welcome to realities of the SE Asian male mentality.. Oops! I suppose you'll label this post, as drivel too, eh?

Edited August 17, 2016 by NativeSon360

[berybert]

2 hours ago, Kerryd said:

 

It's because some people are arrogant <deleted>, and that's before they start drinking. I've seen more than a few altercations with the Brits being the ones ganging up on someone. Or 3-4 Aussies vs 1 other person. 3-4 Americans/Canadians/etc. I've mentioned before that in all the years I've been going to clubs, bars and go-gos, the closest I've come to getting into a fight was in a go-go when a group of Aussies (3) were acting like asses and pissed off because an old fart like me had 3 of the nicest looking girls sitting with me (I knew 2 of them for ages) and none of the girls wanted to sit with the drunk @**holes. Never had a problem with any staff at any establishment but then again, I don't run around acting like I'm king **** of turd island and expect people to bow at my feet because I'm a foreigner.

 

That's why I'm usually skeptical when I see stories like this. If the bouncers at the clubs were deliberately starting fights with foreigners for no reason, that club wouldn't be in business very long. Not to mention that rarely does anyone, of any nationality, try to start a fight with group larger than their own no matter how many Jet Li movies they've watched. I highly doubt that 3-4 bouncers would have picked a fight with 4 Brits for no reason.

 

 

 

 

Read the story again. You will find it is 4 bouncers kicking one man in the head.

Oh maybe don't bother, because then you wont be able to protect your beloved wrong doers.

[Bender]

completely sickening... once again. And be sure tomorrow  we will have again more assaults and murders on foreigners. This madness will never stop. These thai people are <deleted>

 

I hope this video will go viral.

TV members from UK should send this video to the English newspapers....

 

 

ps: if this ever happened to me, i would take justice on my hand. 

[saminoz]

3 hours ago, petedk said:

Why all this kicking in the head of someone already down?

 

Try watching western documentaries of security guards pacifying drunk party goers. Most of the action is verbal or in extreme cases a quick restraint.

 

These guys should be charged with attempted murder.  One well placed kick and the victim is dead.

 

Like one poster here said. "Thais fight to destroy"

Thais are cowards.  Four on one when he is down on the ground - ok!

Once he gets a little support and back on his feet, fight over.  Disgusting little sh*ts.

between their cowardly nature and their obsession with face (which is what probably led to this assault in the first place) I would love to see the Thai military actually have to fight a war.

One well timed insult and all their military discipline would fly out of the window!   The silly little General proves that time and time again with the press! 

[saminoz]

3 hours ago, moonseeker said:

Anybody kicking and beating a helpless person on the ground is a coward. A good bouncer restrains troublemakers with his team without kicking or hitting, then hands them over to the law :-), if it can't be resolved by talking.

Is it just me feeling this , or is there a major escalation of all kinds of violence against foreigners reported in the media during the last few years??

Can't open any paper or online publication without robbery, muggings, assault, beatings, murder etc. these days.

The interesting part is, that Thailand seems to be quite resilient against tourist boycotts. For how much longer, so?

Used to be so peaceful here 22 years ago.....Not anymore....MS>

It seems that there is a deep, simmering hatred of farang in Thailand now (at least around the tourist areas) and it just takes the slightest excuse for it to break out into sickening violence.  It does seem to be betting more commonplace and frequent.  Even in further flung places, it seems that the local youth are feeling ever more empowered to act like this towards foreigners too.

Try watching the movie "No Escape" filmed mostly in Chiang Mai in which, due to political upheavals (a coup following an assassination, if I remember rightly), the locals start to hunt down and kill any foreigners with the  blessing and collusion of the new "Government".  Scary stuff and you really begin to believe that it could happen here.......

Edited August 17, 2016 by saminoz
Added a little.

[ukrules]

Warning: Some viewers may find this footage disturbing

 

This is normal.

 

[ClutchClark]

4 hours ago, luudee said:

I too disagree with the way the "Security Guys" handled the situation.

 

BUT, on the other hand, I have never had anything even close happen

to me in my 20+ years living in Thailand, and I do go out a lot and party

hard, and respect other people.

 

But there seems to be a certain crowd that looks for trouble, and when

they find it they go crying to the police. I am sure if they would have just

walked away when told they can not enter, they would have had a nice

evening.

 

luudee

 

 

The fight took place down the street from the Bar because when the drunk Brits walked away, the bouncers followed them. 

 

Had this occured in the US, the bouncers would have been charged with assault and would absolutely do real jail time and the bar owner would be sued and lose.

 

You may feel perfectly safe here and quite possibly are because you know the rules of this society but a tourist on vacation does not and when he breaks those rules then he suffers greatly and in out of proportion to what would happen "back home".

 

the fact two bouncers were arrested means nothing--its only the conviction that would indicate that Thai society recognizes the bouncers behavior was criminal. 

[Thian]

 

4 hours ago, Johnniey said:

Are you serious? You tell your cousins to avoid Thailand because of two slightly aggressive bouncers. What a bloody woose.

 

Slightly agressive? And only 2??  Guess you need new glasses.

 

Kicking the head from a person on the floor is attempt to murder. Also it's considered a very low act, even more when done in a group.

A real man gives his opponent the chance to stand up and fight back. 

 

If my cousins get in trouble at kao sarn road than guess who they'll call?  I won't go there anymore and since those annoying indians are on the street all over the place it's no fun anyway. 

 

Can you see the anger those Thai have against westerners? They tried to kill him. They must have gotten really tired of seeing so many farangs there. Now they will get fined 1000 baht or so and all is good and well.

 

 

[ClutchClark]

4 minutes ago, Mook23 said:

no offense but this aint the usa and im glad it aint. bouncers violence happens all over the world because most of them are idiots with muscles and no brains... they have power and we all know what power does wiyh mist people (ask dear leader)... on the other hand maby a ksr tourist behaves like shit... as said monkeys will be monkeys...

 

Yep, that was the point of my message, that tourists should be aware this ain't a first world country.

 

And, nope, bouncers violence lime this does not happen all over the world. It does not happen in the US that an entire security staff leaves their establishment and pursues a group all the way down the block and provokes a fight. 

 

No offense taken.

[Chapelroad]

I defy anyone to read last night's Manchester Evening News, Glasgow Herald, Liverpool Echo, Birmingham Mail, and all the other regionalised newspapers in the UK, and you will see this kind of unacceptable violence somewhere in there too.

I am not condoning it, but this crap happens all over the world, but is not reported on Thai Visa unless it happens here.  

[Thian]

11 minutes ago, Chapelroad said:

I defy anyone to read last night's Manchester Evening News, Glasgow Herald, Liverpool Echo, Birmingham Mail, and all the other regionalised newspapers in the UK, and you will see this kind of unacceptable violence somewhere in there too.

I am not condoning it, but this crap happens all over the world, but is not reported on Thai Visa unless it happens here.  

 

In Europe this is seriously attempt to murder and they would go to jail for that, probably the venture would be closed for a year as well.

 

Of course there are guys who deserve a good beatup but a trained bouncer will always try to minimise the damage...most of them are martial arts specialists by the way and they are trained to stand any vocal abuse or rude language.  Also they have to call the police when they can't handle it or when situations get out of hand.

 

Headkicking in a group does happen sometimes but i've seen video's of it on the national tv-news where they ask to help find the agressors. Everything possible is done to get them arrested.

 

And yes, Brittish lads who are in a group on holiday misbehave sometimes, i've seen it several times....Sure they deserve punishment but that's why we have police right?

 

I see one bouncer on the video stamping the nuts of that guy on the floor but when that big boy in the singlet comes to help his mate the bouncers suddenly all disappear. That was right on time because i see more farangs came to join the fight.

 

 

[Reigntax]

6 hours ago, NativeSon360 said:

Are you stating that a typical "bouncer" @ any niteclub in the UK, is not a thug? Huh? Plus, Thailand is one of the safest countries on this planet. Try traveling more than you apparently have, so far.

 

6 hours ago, NativeSon360 said:

Are you stating that a typical "bouncer" @ any niteclub in the UK, is not a thug? Huh? Plus, Thailand is one of the safest countries on this planet. Try traveling more than you apparently have, so far.

Im not sure how you came to the conclusion that " these bouncers" meant " typical bouncers". English is a very clear and consise language when written and interpreted correctly. However, if your intention was to purposely raise a false issue to suit your predetermined agenda you have also failed. You may need to improve your English skill level more than  you apparently have so far.

 

As for your "try travelling more...". You have no idea what, where or the quantity of travel I have ever undertaken so, you are either just making it up or a fool trying to look smart and again failed.

 

You comment " Thailand is one of the safest countries" is either some form of humour or your comparible place of residence to form such an opinion is downtown Baghdad or similar.

Edited August 17, 2016 by Reigntax
typo

[shirtless]

This is Thainess, , thai males resent you this is just a snapshot of how they think.

[Aachen]

9 hours ago, Thian said:

My cousins are saving money to go backpacking in Asia...i hope they don't come to Thailand.

 

I've been a bouncer myself when i was 20 but i never had to fight...there are plenty other ways to get them away from the party.

 

Just do not go to this areas and try to argue there.

[metisdead]

Offensive posts and replies have been removed. 

[alanferdi]

15 minutes ago, Aachen said:

 

Just do not go to this areas and try to argue there.

What do they want to experience.....nature? Try Malaysia; good beaches,national parks and good roads and safety to drive. you hav a few options. If you are after binge drinking and having a fun... try singapore, sri  lanka  some of the smaller islands. Thailand is not safe anymore! there are several other asian destinations...maldives, syschelles, mauritius, hong Kong, Maccau, Philippines, Fiji......there is so much to discover so much more without risking your life

 

[seahorse]

8 hours ago, NativeSon360 said:

Ha! I am a Black-skinned American, residing in skin-color phobic Thailand for 7-years. I have traveled extensively, alone (via motor-bike) to every nook & cranny possible in Thailand. I have never had a problem dealing with Thai menfolk, and I don't even bother to smile, kiss anybody's butt, or pretend to be friendly towards them, either.

 

Its ALL about the "attitude" you bring to any foreign country. I personally know (hard-core) Swedes, Aussies and American expats in Thailand, whom have never had any problems in the LOS. So much for my "drivel", according to you, Padre!! Phew!

 

 

 

 

Sounds to me like Thais stay away from you because they're scared of you.

[alanferdi]

2 minutes ago, seahorse said:

 

Sounds to me like Thais stay away from you because they're scared of you.

Had the same thought....they attack the drunks, the old people and those who they know cannot fight back.......

 

[Clamhua]

10 hours ago, ClutchClark said:

The Thai fight to destroy. 

 

 

 

Destroy tourism and a peaceful environment...

[colinneil]

8 hours ago, Johnniey said:

I've lived here for over 30 years and say Thailand is one of the safest places in the world, unless you are an idiot in tourist places.

Thais are very very tolerant people in general.

 

Sir please for 1 minute take of your rose tinted glasses, and see the real world out there.

Yes Thai people are very tolerant, unless it is a group of young Thai men, then they become like hyenas (dangerous animals)

When their sole aim is destroy. If there are farangs around they will try to destroy them.

Please do not tell me i am wrong, as there are far to many documented cases to use as examples.

 

About 14 years ago my then FIL came to visit along with his son/ daughter and children.

For 3 days he drank whisky from dawn till late each evening, was obnoxious to everyone.

They decided the farang is not buying us any more whisky lets go home.

FIL demanded i give them money for fuel / food etc. to get them back to Bangkok (380 kilometers away)

i told him noway, i have given you enough.

At this point he started pushing me, slapping me, so i pushed back.Then family joined in, also 3 Thai men who were just passing.

I had 5 Thai men, 2 Thai women trying to hit kick gouge in fact they were trying to hurt me as much as possible.

I took off my belt to use to defend myself, and yes i used it.

Police arrived, told FIL and family get in your minibus and go.

FIL then started to fight the police, they through him in the minibus and told the driver go now or you will all get locked up.

They then asked the 3 men why did you get involved, he is a farang so we just wanted to hurt him.

 

Tolerant THAIS SIR YOU LIVE IN A DREAM WORLD.

[AlphMichaels]

10 hours ago, Kerryd said:

 

It's because some people are arrogant &lt;deleted&gt;, and that's before they start drinking. I've seen more than a few altercations with the Brits being the ones ganging up on someone. Or 3-4 Aussies vs 1 other person. 3-4 Americans/Canadians/etc. I've mentioned before that in all the years I've been going to clubs, bars and go-gos, the closest I've come to getting into a fight was in a go-go when a group of Aussies (3) were acting like asses and pissed off because an old fart like me had 3 of the nicest looking girls sitting with me (I knew 2 of them for ages) and none of the girls wanted to sit with the drunk @**holes. Never had a problem with any staff at any establishment but then again, I don't run around acting like I'm king **** of turd island and expect people to bow at my feet because I'm a foreigner.

 

That's why I'm usually skeptical when I see stories like this. If the bouncers at the clubs were deliberately starting fights with foreigners for no reason, that club wouldn't be in business very long. Not to mention that rarely does anyone, of any nationality, try to start a fight with group larger than their own no matter how many Jet Li movies they've watched. I highly doubt that 3-4 bouncers would have picked a fight with 4 Brits for no reason.

 

 

 

 

Spot on.  Thanks for saying it.  Have no doubt these guys pushed things.  I DON'T CARE about all the BS "bouncer etiquette".  I've seen it too many times here.  Lack of respect because "Hey, this is Thailand..., we can do anything we want..., how dare these guys deny us entrance?!" A civilized group, one clearly inebriated, would get the lad back to his room for some "nighty-night" then come back out rather than jaw jack the guys at the door.  

[seahorse]

The guy on the ground had obviously asked for trouble and he got it.

[Johnniey]

2 minutes ago, colinneil said:

Sir please for 1 minute take of your rose tinted glasses, and see the real world out there.

Yes Thai people are very tolerant, unless it is a group of young Thai men, then they become like hyenas (dangerous animals)

When their sole aim is destroy. If there are farangs around they will try to destroy them.

Please do not tell me i am wrong, as there are far to many documented cases to use as examples.

 

About 14 years ago my then FIL came to visit along with his son/ daughter and children.

For 3 days he drank whisky from dawn till late each evening, was obnoxious to everyone.

They decided the farang is not buying us any more whisky lets go home.

FIL demanded i give them money for fuel / food etc. to get them back to Bangkok (380 kilometers away)

i told him noway, i have given you enough.

At this point he started pushing me, slapping me, so i pushed back.Then family joined in, also 3 Thai men who were just passing.

I had 5 Thai men, 2 Thai women trying to hit kick gouge in fact they were trying to hurt me as much as possible.

I took off my belt to use to defend myself, and yes i used it.

Police arrived, told FIL and family get in your minibus and go.

FIL then started to fight the police, they through him in the minibus and told the driver go now or you will all get locked up.

They then asked the 3 men why did you get involved, he is a farang so we just wanted to hurt him.

 

Tolerant THAIS SIR YOU LIVE IN A DREAM WORLD.

You are wrong.

 

Sorry I forgot to say it could be dangerous if you marry a peasant who is only after your money.

A similar thing may well happen if you married someone from a trailer park or a tinker. 

 

I was a drunk here for a few years. If I had behaved, in the last years of my alcoholism,  the way I did in Leith or Glasgow, where I went to university, I'd be dead. I've see so much compassion and tolerance here it is truly amazing.