Clamhua Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 24 minutes ago, Agent Sumo said: Pure horse shit I've personally seen this kind of shit happen in London. It happens in Paris, Chicago, Los Angeles and many other cities around the world It's certainly not exclusive to Thailand. Opinions like this are so out of touch with reality and only serve to highlight the innate hostility so many long-stayers have towards the country You are entitled to your opinion..I live in a country next door and stabbings are not a daily occurrence here like they are in Thailand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdgbb Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 2 hours ago, dick dasterdly said: We all know that the automatic Thai smile isn't genuine, but it mostly becomes genuine when people are friendly back. We all know? Speak for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americano555 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 The stabbers were Arabs......they are already back in Kuwait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 It's all part of the "cut and thrust" of life in the land of smiles. Bangkok has an edge that many people like, makes it all the more exciting for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook23 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 3 hours ago, little mary sunshine said: "LOS". . ."Land of Savages" land of suppressed [rage]... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooo Upto Me Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 5 hours ago, halloween said: Apparently not. Any reason for suggesting it other than your phobia? Nothing wrong with his statement. Liven up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooo Upto Me Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 33 minutes ago, Americano555 said: The stabbers were Arabs......they are already back in Kuwait. An Sherlock where did u get this info from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerangutang Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 (edited) Reminds me of the fatal point-blank shooting of a Thai cop at a Bkk nightclub years ago. The cop was purportedly caught off balance, stepped on a Thai man's foot. The shooter was the son of a VIP and super rich politician; CHALERM. Immediately, the shooter ran and hid at a general's house. Soon after, he ran off to Cambodia for several months. Then his rich daddy escorted him back to Thailand to get a cushy job: TEACHING COPS HOW TO SHOOT GUNS ! Edited August 21, 2016 by boomerangutang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigntax Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 5 hours ago, halloween said: I found nothing humorous in your post. Any links to tourists being prosecuted for posting " video etc they don't like "? Phuketwan, Andy Hall, Andrew Drummond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirtless Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 This is the way Thais settle disputes, your money is not safe in Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfiddler Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 But Thais are such wonderful peace loving people ! Lucky for Baris that he was not a farang, in which case he would have been stabbed many more times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Reigntax said: Phuketwan, Andy Hall, Andrew Drummond. Which one of those is a tourist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigntax Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 37 minutes ago, halloween said: Which one of those is a tourist? Why, is there a different set of rules for foreign tourists rather than foreigners who decided to permanently reside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winniedapu Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 (edited) Predictable in the round if not in the fine detail, The crime rate is up, with crimes of violence at the top of the list, followed closely by thefts/swindles/etc. The deteriorating political and economic situations are bound to push these up further, and foreigners are not so untouchable as they used to be. Thais are not educated in principles or the value of law, plus they have a hair-trigger where face is concerned, plus a lot are under financial or other stress at the moment and that isn't going to change. Not a good mixture... Be careful out there guys, it's not going to get better just yet. Winnie Edited August 21, 2016 by Winniedapu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Grumpy Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 11 hours ago, trogers said: Fangs? knives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Wonder why he wasn't taken to Bumrugrad Hospital since the stabbing happened very near the hospital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digibum Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 10 hours ago, joeyg said: I hope the man was not seriously injured. I would guess there is more to this story than stepping on someone's foot. Just a hunch... No, his foot was fine. Just needed a shoe shine. Oh, you mean the other guy . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digibum Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 50 minutes ago, Winniedapu said: Predictable in the round if not in the fine detail, The crime rate is up, with crimes of violence at the top of the list, followed closely by thefts/swindles/etc. The deteriorating political and economic situations are bound to push these up further, and foreigners are not so untouchable as they used to be. Thais are not educated in principles or the value of law, plus they have a hair-trigger where face is concerned, plus a lot are under financial or other stress at the moment and that isn't going to change. Not a good mixture... Be careful out there guys, it's not going to get better just yet. Winnie I couldn't agree more. For all the bashing of Thais and their supposed quickness to anger, one has to put this into the proper socio-economic context. Are the poor areas of your countries any safer? Can you go into the ghettos in your own countries and step on someone's foot and not expect a confrontation? So much of what people condemn Thais for is just natural behavior for people who live in oppressed, economically depressed conditions. When pride is all you have, you defend it with everything you've got. Thai's are no more prone to violence than anybody else living under the same socio-economic conditions. Now let's just compare this this to what people say about blacks or latinos in the US (I'm sure it applies equally for minorities in other countries as well): Lazy Dishonest Quick to resort to violence Materialistic Intellectually inferior Lack of interest in education Alcoholics / Drug addicts The list starting to sound suspiciously close to what people say about Thais? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winniedapu Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 8 hours ago, Agent Sumo said: Pure horse shit I've personally seen this kind of shit happen in London. It happens in Paris, Chicago, Los Angeles and many other cities around the world It's certainly not exclusive to Thailand. Opinions like this are so out of touch with reality and only serve to highlight the innate hostility so many long-stayers have towards the country When conversing with other intelligent people, it pays to think in straight lines. What he said was not horsesh|t, and he didn't say violence was exclusive to Thailand so your experience in London, sad and disturbing though it doubtless was, is irrelevant. Every subsequent abuse that gushed out from the faulty platform of your not thinking in straight lines is of no value to thinking people. An apology would be due but I doubt it will be forthcoming. Winnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Winniedapu said: When conversing with other intelligent people, it pays to think in straight lines. What he said was not horsesh|t, and he didn't say violence was exclusive to Thailand so your experience in London, sad and disturbing though it doubtless was, is irrelevant. Every subsequent abuse that gushed out from the faulty platform of your not thinking in straight lines is of no value to thinking people. An apology would be due but I doubt it will be forthcoming. Winnie yeah London is vely vely dangelous.... In the UK you had 527 murders last year, its vely dangelous. Please believe Agent Sumo On a serious note, you have certainly more murder in Bangkok alone than in the whole UK..... Edited August 21, 2016 by Bender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charmonman Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 7 hours ago, Americano555 said: The stabbers were Arabs......they are already back in Kuwait. So why does the article say the police are looking for several Thai men in connection with this case? If what you say isn't just something you made up, shouldn't they be looking for several Arab men? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 13 hours ago, Caveat Emptor said: Yes. Are you saying the authorities don't threat to prosecute anyone who posts a video etc they don't like ? Anyway I did post with tongue in cheek which seems beyond you to understand so it must be difficult being a hugger as you've so much to defend and humour is banned too unless you approve perhaps ? now you say tongue in cheek but really it was not funny-not clever and just vacuous silly Thai bashing foe the sake of it. You will find senseless crime happens all over the world as does - what some people might perceive as your immaturity, leading to crass unhelpful comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 14 hours ago, impulse said: Not much to do with the story. But everything to do with the Thai bashing reaction here on TVF. The vast majority of violence in Thailand is perpetrated by Thais. As you'd expect. That doesn't mean the vast majority of Thais are violent people. Lots of posters here don't seem to be able to differentiate the two statements. My problem is that the "this happens everywhere" brigade are as blinded by their obsessive need to defend all things Thai are as bad as the bashers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanny321 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Steptoe and sons gun misfired when he opened his mouth to change feet after uttering 'Don't tread on me!' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 22 hours ago, Clamhua said: The reaction to the smallest perceived sleight causes a massive over reaction for many people. Land Of Stabbings I thought that was the UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 They were blue sued shoes, he'll get let off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winniedapu Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) 8 hours ago, The manic said: <snip> You will find senseless crime happens all over the world as does - what some people might perceive as your immaturity, leading to crass unhelpful comments. The fact that something happens elsewhere in the world is not a reason to minimise it's destructive capability when it happens in Thailand. I recall an article last year which said that Bangkok sees more murders each year than New York, People need to get out of the habit of whiting the sepulchre. If there is a problem i Thailand, then deal with the problem in Thailand, don't deflect attention to problems elsewhere. Don't whine that other people are immature or crass just because they do not have your blind spots where Thais and Thailand are concerned, or your ability to pretend that Thailand is some kind of Shangri-la, full of noble and spiritually advanced but primitive and unworldly people (not what you said, a natural extension of what you meant and a description of what some folk seem to think). It's important to think in straight lines. Winnie Edited August 22, 2016 by Winniedapu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 15 hours ago, Reigntax said: Why, is there a different set of rules for foreign tourists rather than foreigners who decided to permanently reside? Are you on long term overstay, or are you abiding by those different rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 21 hours ago, sahibji said: a very serious reaction to an apparently minor incident of stepping on foot. unless of course there was a lot going on underneath the surface and this was the straw that broke the camel's back. It could well be that he had a corn on his big toe, now that mould make you stab someone twice in the stomach, if they stepped on it, would it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 1 hour ago, Winniedapu said: The fact that something happens elsewhere in the world is not a reason to minimise it's destructive capability when it happens in Thailand. I recall an article last year which said that Bangkok sees more murders each year than New York, People need to get out of the habit of whiting the sepulchre. If there is a problem i Thailand, then deal with the problem in Thailand, don't deflect attention to problems elsewhere. Don't whine that other people are immature or crass just because they do not have your blind spots where Thais and Thailand are concerned, or your ability to pretend that Thailand is some kind of Shangri-la, full of noble and spiritually advanced but primitive and unworldly people (not what you said, a natural extension of what you meant and a description of what some folk seem to think). It's important to think in straight lines. Winnie Go Winnie................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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