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[Ricardo]

16 hours ago, KenKadz said:

Plenty of coastline to build desalination plants and end these problems.

 

Fine for drinking-water in tourist-towns or the capital, but I doubt that rice-farmers could afford desalinated-water, for irrigation.

[Deepinthailand]

6 hours ago, Thian said:

 

I also thought the government had adviced to grow other crops instead of rice. But i don't care, if they run out of water so be it.

 

Myself i would have made sure to have a large reservoir filled to the max before growing any rice. It wouldn't happen to me again to run out of water.

 

So some NE farmers grow one crop and others do more, well that seems fair.....At least they will have somebody to blame if they run out of water.

 

Did they also build extra waterstorage to make sure it won't happen again? Some deep lakes or so? Oh well, guess i know the answer allready.

Do you read before answering? ??? I guess not.

[billd766]

23 hours ago, halloween said:

You never considered something a little more substantial than garbage pails to store water?

 

I use a 200 litre blue plastic barrel in both upstairs and downstairs toilets. Useful for a shower if the electricity has gone off too.

[moe666]

We had more rain in the first month of the rainey season than we had all of last year, last night a huge down pour of rain the moat is over flowing in one location. Chiang mai will do ok this year

[moe666]

23 hours ago, KenKadz said:

Plenty of coastline to build desalination plants and end these problems.

That is very expensive water

[billd766]

6 hours ago, Ricardo said:

 

Fine for drinking-water in tourist-towns or the capital, but I doubt that rice-farmers could afford desalinated-water, for irrigation.

 

Also they are expensive to build, maintain and operate and to get the water to where it is really needed requires a network of pipes, pumping stations and power stations to supply the electricity.

[billd766]

13 hours ago, Thian said:

 

I also thought the government had adviced to grow other crops instead of rice. But i don't care, if they run out of water so be it.

 

Myself i would have made sure to have a large reservoir filled to the max before growing any rice. It wouldn't happen to me again to run out of water.

 

So some NE farmers grow one crop and others do more, well that seems fair.....At least they will have somebody to blame if they run out of water.

 

Did they also build extra waterstorage to make sure it won't happen again? Some deep lakes or so? Oh well, guess i know the answer allready.

 

It doesn't really matter how much extra water storage you build, what does matter is that both the existing and new water storage is filled up, and there is nothing much that the government can do about providing extra rain.

[halloween]

25 minutes ago, billd766 said:

 

I use a 200 litre blue plastic barrel in both upstairs and downstairs toilets. Useful for a shower if the electricity has gone off too.

Same here. Before we had a more reliable water supply, I fitted it with a ball-cock and hose connected it to a tap.

[KenKadz]

7 hours ago, Ricardo said:

 

Fine for drinking-water in tourist-towns or the capital, but I doubt that rice-farmers could afford desalinated-water, for irrigation.

But doesn't use of desalinated water in metro areas free up more rain water held in reservoirs for rice farmers irrigation?

[halloween]

7 minutes ago, KenKadz said:

But doesn't use of desalinated water in metro areas free up more rain water held in reservoirs for rice farmers irrigation?

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/billions-in-desalination-costs-for-not-a-drop-of-water/news-story/1dc59f33b788c609e67c001786048fca

 

You want this for Thailand, a country of abundant rainfall most years compared to the second driest continent?

[halloween]

2 minutes ago, halloween said:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/billions-in-desalination-costs-for-not-a-drop-of-water/news-story/1dc59f33b788c609e67c001786048fca

 

You want this for Thailand, a country of abundant rainfall most years compared to the second driest continent?

Link goes to subscriber page. content below.

THE consumer bill for the nation’s largest desalination plant is set to rise to more than $2 billion, as heavy rain and soaring dam levels make redundant tremendously expensive facilities across the eastern seaboard.

New figures obtained by The Weekend Australian show the Victorian desalination plant, southeast of Melbourne, will have cost water users $1.2bn by the November 29 state election, rising to $2bn by the end of the next financial year.

The cost has soared, despite no water having been drawn from the facility since its opening in 2012 and dams being more than 80 per cent full.

The full cost of building, running and maintaining the plant is forecast to climb markedly in the next three decades.

The Victorian experience has been replicated across Australia’s east and south. Plants in Victoria, NSW, Adelaide and on the Gold Coast cost more than $10bn to build but their operations have been effectively mothballed.

Sydney’s plant is dismissed as a white elephant, with no water produced since 2012, despite costing consumers almost $200 million a year, or about $100 a year for every water user.

In Queensland, the Gold Coast desalination plant built by the previous Labor government at Tugun cost $1.2bn but has been effectively mothballed for the past few years.

In Adelaide, the 100-gigalitre-capacity desalination plant cost $2.2bn to build and was finished in December 2012 but the plant, publicly owned but operated by private contractors AdelaideAqua, will be mothballed from January 15 next year after a two-year “proving period”.

Serious questions are being asked about why state governments past and present have invested billions of dollars in desalination plants when high dam levels — such as 88 per cent in Sydney — make the infrastructure surplus to requirement.

The great drought ended in 2010, leaving Victoria with a desalination plant about 130km from Melbourne capable of producing 150 billion litres of water a year and a bill over 30 years of as much as $22.5bn, depending on whether, or how much, water is used.

Average yearly water-bill increases in Melbourne of about $200 have been recorded.

Assuming no water has been collected from the Victorian desalination plant by 2039-40, consumers will still have paid more than $18bn to keep the plant going when all costs are included, a prospect that is expected to dominate debate in the final stages of the state election campaign.

Victorian Water Minister Peter Walsh told The Weekend Australian yesterday that the plant was a “gigantic, permanent stain’’ on Labor and its leader, Daniel Andrews. “Every time a Melbourne household gets a water bill, it is a reminder that Labor can’t manage money, can’t manage major projects, and can’t tell the truth,’’ Mr Walsh said.

Data reveals that Melbourne water users will have paid almost $1.1bn by the end of August for the management and maintenance of the plant, with payments rising to more than $1.2bn by the end of the election campaign and $2bn by the end of the next financial year. The payments began in December 2012 but the breaking of the drought in 2010 means the government has opted against making a call on the desalination plant to produce water. The government has placed a zero water order for the supply period ending next June.

Under the deal struck by Labor, Melbourne households are still required to pay about $600m via an annual holding charge, regardless of whether water is taken.

Melbourne water consumers effectively fund the plant via their water bills, exposing Labor to a cost-of-living campaign in the final weeks of the election campaign.

AquaSure was contracted by Victoria to finance, design, build, operate and maintain the plant.

The Wonthaggi plant was embroiled in controversy amid claims it was being built on the back of union sweetheart deals and dramatically generous pay and conditions.

The NSW government sold its plant to a consortium of Hastings Funds Management and the Ontario Teachers’ Pension Plan for $2.3bn, but with a 50-year lease that guaranteed them payments whether the plant was working or not.

[billd766]

7 hours ago, KenKadz said:

But doesn't use of desalinated water in metro areas free up more rain water held in reservoirs for rice farmers irrigation?

 

Not really as by the time that the river water gets to BKK not that much is purified and turned into tap water compared to the amount which flows into the sea.

 

The cost of cleaning the water is far cheaper than building desalination plants.

 

This came out in a thread a while ago when the drought was in full bore.