simple1 Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 42 minutes ago, Zendo said: if you charge him for terrorism, you'll be seen as an islamophobic.. Please stop the nonsense, if you have any knowledge of Australian Federal Police investigations there is no hesitation, if there is sufficient evidence, to lay charges for terrorism related offences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxx Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 19 minutes ago, Patsycat said: And do your children all have blond hair and blue eyes? What a silly comment, especially on a Thai Forum. Where mixed race children prevail. You have no problem with miscegenation? Fine. I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merylhighground Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Oxx said: You have no problem with miscegenation? Fine. I do. Then maybe leaving Little England/Australia/USA/NZ or wherever was/would be a mistake for you. Edited August 25, 2016 by Merylhighground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zendo Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 24 minutes ago, simple1 said: Please stop the nonsense, if you have any knowledge of Australian Federal Police investigations there is no hesitation, if there is sufficient evidence, to lay charges for terrorism related offences. OK, good for you then, because in France it's not the case for now, so it's nice to ear that Australian Government is not like French one, and will tell the truth to his own people even if it's correlated with djihad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soc Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 21 hours ago, MissAndry said: "The dead woman was named by Australian and British media as Mia Ayliffe-Chung, from Derbyshire, who was reported to be days into a three-month working holiday in the area after having worked in a bar in the Gold Coast. " Another good British name, was the victim Muslim? l think that she was half British & half Chinese, & British by citizenship. What a pity. Cut down in the prime of her life. The bloke that did it should be tortured then hanged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsetBkk Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 7 hours ago, simple1 said: 8 hours ago, Zendo said: if you charge him for terrorism, you'll be seen as an islamophobic.. Please stop the nonsense, if you have any knowledge of Australian Federal Police investigations there is no hesitation, if there is sufficient evidence, to lay charges for terrorism related offences Exactly when did you lose your sense of humour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 5 hours ago, JetsetBkk said: Exactly when did you lose your sense of humour? Each to their own, personally I find nothing amusing about right wing orientated PC accusations against Oz law enforcement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4UCorsair Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 (edited) I see a disturbing trend here. A number of these idiots, in different countries, are being branded 'mentally disturbed'. This is within minutes of being arrested and without the benefit of psychiatric assessment. The fact that they have been shouting 'allahu akbar' (apparently 'god is great') whilst killing people is irrelevant. We don't want to appear islamophobic, or brand them 'jihadists', or indeed anything that may offend the muslim population. After all, we rely on them to feed us information on what is happening in their communities, and our authorities can take appropriate action. Yeah....right!! What is (conveniently) not being recognized is that these rsoles can be mad AND bad. There doesn't have to be a choice.....it can be both. Edited August 26, 2016 by F4UCorsair addition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxx Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 3 hours ago, F4UCorsair said: The fact that they have been shouting 'allahu akbar' (apparently 'god is great') whilst killing people is irrelevant. Source: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-24/allahu-akbar-police-probe-extremist-link-in-backpacker-stabbing/7780632 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4UCorsair Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, Oxx said: Absolutely irrelevant. Moslems shout it all the time (even when not murdering people). Apparently Moslem women regularly cry it out when they're giving birth to another would-be terrorist. Source: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-24/allahu-akbar-police-probe-extremist-link-in-backpacker-stabbing/7780632 That is EXACTLY what I would expect Islamic Council of Queensland's Ali Kadri to say. What else would he be likely to say?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtRock Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Quote The case against the man charged over a brutal stabbing death in northQueensland has been adjourned until October. Frenchman Smail Ayad, 29, did not appear when his case was mentioned. His lawyer, Helen Armitage, did not speak to the media following the court mention. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/aug/26/case-adjourned-for-man-charged-with-of-british-backpacker-mia-ayliffe-chung Karma perhaps ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 29 minutes ago, SgtRock said: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/aug/26/case-adjourned-for-man-charged-with-of-british-backpacker-mia-ayliffe-chung Karma perhaps ? At least the accused is being held in a secure prison. He didn't appear as too much of a security risk based upon his prior aggressiveness towards police. His lawyer asked for the delay to prepare their case, further investigation etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgesAbitbol Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 On 8/25/2016 at 4:40 PM, Oxx said: You have no problem with miscegenation? Fine. I do. Even if this earn me a Godwin point : Hitler had the same views...a bit of nostalgia maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtRock Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 13 minutes ago, simple1 said: At least the accused is being held in a secure prison. He didn't appear as too much of a security risk based upon his prior aggressiveness towards police. His lawyer asked for the delay to prepare their case, further investigation etc What a bizarre statement, considering what he is being charged with. Quote He didn't appear as too much of a security risk based upon his prior aggressiveness towards police. You also might want to check some Australian sources, because: Quote He was due to appear in court today via video link but police explained he would not be present because he had caused a 'disturbance' while in custody. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/man-accused-murdering-british-backpacker-8707523 With 30 eye witnesses I do not think his lawyer has much of a case to prepare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Just now, SgtRock said: What a bizarre statement, considering what he is being charged with. You also might want to check some Australian sources, because: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/man-accused-murdering-british-backpacker-8707523 With 30 eye witnesses I do not think his lawyer has much of a case to prepare. I live in the State where the crimes were committed so quite a bit of detail from local media. Yes, 'disturbance' as he assaulted two police, one of whom was bitten, whilst in custody. Defense requesting more time to prepare for Court, totally normal legal protocol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinisaan Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 On 8/24/2016 at 0:20 PM, monkey4u said: Whether he yelled God is Great ( I think that is the translation ) or said nothing He is certainly not using his full bag of marbles, unfortunately for us Australian tax payers we will have to pay to support him for his term in either prison or a mental institute. Too bad we don't have a death penalty Why not creating a new law only for jihad asshholes and hang them on the highest tree, visible for all his mates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtRock Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 7 minutes ago, simple1 said: I live in the State where the crimes were committed so quite a bit of detail from local media. Yes, 'disturbance' as he assaulted two police, one of whom was bitten, whilst in custody. Defense requesting more time to prepare for Court, totally normal legal protocol. But nothing to back up what you are claiming ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgesAbitbol Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 (edited) 1 minute ago, lostinisaan said: Why not creating a new law only for jihad asshholes and hang them on the highest tree, visible for all his mates. Death penalty is more expensive for tax payers than jail term Edited August 26, 2016 by GeorgesAbitbol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimay1 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, GeorgesAbitbol said: Death penalty is more expensive for tax payers than jail term That's an interesting statement. Can you please explain why the death penalty is more expensive than jail term? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxx Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 4 minutes ago, GeorgesAbitbol said: Death penalty is more expensive for tax payers than jail term Ludicrous generalisation. Surely that only depends upon how long it takes to dispense justice. A quick bullet in the back of the head upon apprehension only costs a few cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgesAbitbol Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Pimay1 said: That's an interesting statement. Can you please explain why the death penalty is more expensive than jail term? http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty Sure...read this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimay1 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, GeorgesAbitbol said: http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty Sure...read this Thanks for the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Numerous off-topic posts and replies removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 32 minutes ago, SgtRock said: But nothing to back up what you are claiming ? He allegedly lashed out at police again while being moved from hospital to the watchhouse, with one officer bitten on the leg. My error "eight-week adjournment to allow police to complete an unspecified application and prepare a brief of evidence" http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/home-hill-stabbing-accused-backpacker-murderer-smail-ayad-does-not-front-court-20160826-gr1qu8.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtRock Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 5 minutes ago, simple1 said: He allegedly lashed out at police again while being moved from hospital to the watchhouse, with one officer bitten on the leg. My error "eight-week adjournment to allow police to complete an unspecified application and prepare a brief of evidence" http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/home-hill-stabbing-accused-backpacker-murderer-smail-ayad-does-not-front-court-20160826-gr1qu8.html No apology necessary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 49 minutes ago, GeorgesAbitbol said: http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty Sure...read this these high costs are due to inadequate sentencing and inadequate application of that penalty. if the death penalty was applied only to cases that are very clear, the sentence could be carried out in just a few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinisaan Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 15 hours ago, Oxx said: Ludicrous generalisation. Surely that only depends upon how long it takes to dispense justice. A quick bullet in the back of the head upon apprehension only costs a few cents. I always wanted to shoot a 357 Magnum and it would be my pleasure to try my first shot on a guy who'd killed some innocent people, just because he wanted to have plenty of virgins, but didn't know that you can't have sex without a body. Or what about those who're found with a bomb around their bodies? Let them blow themselves up, hanging on a crane, visible for everybody. Bummmmm,..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgesAbitbol Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 15 hours ago, manarak said: these high costs are due to inadequate sentencing and inadequate application of that penalty. if the death penalty was applied only to cases that are very clear, the sentence could be carried out in just a few weeks. nope, except if you want the laws to change and people cannot do appeal and other things like this..I am sure you would like to have a trial then right after a hanging but modern countries (by opposition to the ones you say are worth nothing) have rules and must be followed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchClark Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 15 hours ago, hyku1147 said: It appears that Pernicious Ideologueus Myopias has traversed the Pacific Ocean. I love it. Thanks ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 2 hours ago, GeorgesAbitbol said: nope, except if you want the laws to change and people cannot do appeal and other things like this..I am sure you would like to have a trial then right after a hanging but modern countries (by opposition to the ones you say are worth nothing) have rules and must be followed... Rules can be made, changed, repeled... Of course appeal possibilities would remain unchanged, but if the cases are as clear as I imagine, the appeal review would be very quick and possibly even assorted with additional fines for wasting the courts' time. All sorts of nonsensical appeals are filed all the time, I always thought of them as fraud, same as some lawsuits which are simply ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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