webfact Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Bangkok will be hit by more rains this evening BANGKOK: -- Bangkok residents are expected to brace for flooding in many areas today as the Meteorological Department forecasts scattered heavy rains from late afternoon to the night covering 60-80% of areas in the capital. It said scattered heavy rains are expected the afternoon from today until end of this month. Several rounds of heavy rains late in the afternoon until late in the night and early in the morning have inundated several roads and low lying housing estates, and caused yet another worst traffic jam in the capital after office hours until late at night. Several streets were submerged, some at knee deep, knocking down several cars, particularly on several sois off main roads, Chaengwattana, Ngam Wongwan, Ratchada, Sukhumvit, Lard Prao, Phetburi, Klongtan, Ramkhamgaeng, Srinakharin. The situation maybe worse today when more rains come as the soils of the capital areas are already soaked with water. Meanwhile people in the North, the Northeast, and the Southern west coast of danger are also warned of dangers from flashfloods due to the expected more rains and accumulated water from today. Warned of floodings are Chiang Mai, Lamphun, Lampang, Tak, Sukhothai, Kamphaengphet, Uttaradit, Phitsanulok, Nakhon Nayok, Prachinburi, Phang Nga, Phuket, Krabi, Trang and Satun. For rumor that residents living sling the Mekhong River banks are prepared to evacuate as the water level is rising steadily, Department of Water Resources director Mr Supoj Tovichakchaikul said the increased water level in the Mekhong River in the past week is due to the releasing of water from the Jing Hong dam in China from 1,095 cubic metres to 2,107 cubic metres per second to raise electricity production there. He said that the average water released from China yesterday stood at 1,400 cubic metres per second, which did not affect the water level of the Mekhong River. But he said Nong Khai province in the northeast region must be cautious, as the water level there is now only 1.7 metres below the bank. The water level measured at the Nong Khai hydrology centre at 1 pm yesterday stood at 10.45 metres, which is only 1.75 metres below the banks. Though the water level is showing signs of decreasing but local authorities continued to remain vigilant by carrying out a 24-hour observation of the situation. In Chiang Mai province many roads were inundated yesterday and local authorities were hurriedly pumping out water into the Mae Kha canal continuously, leading to some inundations to return to normalcy. But still some low lying areas remained under 20-centimetre deep of flood water. It is expected that if more rains come today, the flooding situation could be worsened. Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/bangkok-will-hit-rains-evening/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2016-08-26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuchulainn Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 If it's not a drought, it's a flood!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thai3 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Three months time- Thais warned to 'brace' for drought ! there's no pleasing some people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesbrock Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Wouldn't have anything to do with the cloud seeding operations that produced rainfall 55% higher than the amount of natural rainfall, would it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdgbb Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 44 minutes ago, jamesbrock said: Wouldn't have anything to do with the cloud seeding operations that produced rainfall 55% higher than the amount of natural rainfall, would it? No, cloud seeding isn't done over Bangkok. Why would it be done anyway in the rainy season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesbrock Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, gdgbb said: No, cloud seeding isn't done over Bangkok. The story doesn't only refer to Bangkok: "Meanwhile people in the North, the Northeast, and the Southern west coast of danger are also warned of dangers from flashfloods due to the expected more rains and accumulated water from today. Warned of floodings are Chiang Mai, Lamphun, Lampang, Tak, Sukhothai, Kamphaengphet, Uttaradit, Phitsanulok, Nakhon Nayok, Prachinburi, Phang Nga, Phuket, Krabi, Trang and Satun." 2 minutes ago, gdgbb said: Why would it be done anyway in the rainy season? As per the National Propaganda Network story reported 2 hours ago: "DRRAA Director-General Lersak Rewtarkulpaiboon revealed the amount of rainfall triggered by the cloud seeding operations in the North throughout the rainy season was 55% higher than the amount of natural rainfall." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdgbb Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 4 minutes ago, jamesbrock said: The story doesn't only refer to Bangkok: As per the National Propaganda Network story reported 2 hours ago: "DRRAA Director-General Lersak Rewtarkulpaiboon revealed the amount of rainfall triggered by the cloud seeding operations in the North throughout the rainy season was 55% higher than the amount of natural rainfall." "The story doesn't only refer to Bangkok:" But my comment did. And the National Propaganda Network garbage wasn't in the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesbrock Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 6 minutes ago, gdgbb said: "The story doesn't only refer to Bangkok:" But my comment did. And the National Propaganda Network garbage wasn't in the OP. "But my comment did." But my comment that you originally quoted didn't. The "National Propaganda Network garbage wasn't in the OP" might not have been in the OP, but I was simply providing a sourced reason for my statement that you chose to question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bark Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 1 hour ago, jamesbrock said: The story doesn't only refer to Bangkok: "Meanwhile people in the North, the Northeast, and the Southern west coast of danger are also warned of dangers from flashfloods due to the expected more rains and accumulated water from today. Warned of floodings are Chiang Mai, Lamphun, Lampang, Tak, Sukhothai, Kamphaengphet, Uttaradit, Phitsanulok, Nakhon Nayok, Prachinburi, Phang Nga, Phuket, Krabi, Trang and Satun." As per the National Propaganda Network story reported 2 hours ago: "DRRAA Director-General Lersak Rewtarkulpaiboon revealed the amount of rainfall triggered by the cloud seeding operations in the North throughout the rainy season was 55% higher than the amount of natural rainfall." But like the other guy said. Why would you seed the clouds during a monsoon season ? And how can they measure ? Clouds a full of moisture anyway. So why seed clouds and have danger of flooding in the North and Northeast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesbrock Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 1 minute ago, bark said: But like the other guy said. Why would you seed the clouds during a monsoon season ? And how can they measure ? Clouds a full of moisture anyway. So why seed clouds and have danger of flooding in the North and Northeast Cloud seeding increases the chances of precipitation, it does not and can not create precipitation where there otherwise would be none (otherwise Thailand would not have just encountered its worst drought in 50 years). Why the Thai authorities chose to cloud seed in the monsoon season when a La Nina is building is open to debate... It doesn't seem a very clever idea to me. How can they measure? Read my post here: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/939675-cloud-seeding-operation-replenishes-major-dams-in-the-north/?do=findComment&comment=11086427 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 After the drought comes the flood,.... typical Thai logic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bark Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 1 minute ago, jamesbrock said: Cloud seeding increases the chances of precipitation, it does not and can not create precipitation where there otherwise would be none (otherwise Thailand would not have just encountered its worst drought in 50 years). Why the Thai authorities chose to cloud seed in the monsoon season when a La Nina is building is open to debate... It doesn't seem a very clever idea to me. How can they measure? Read my post here: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/939675-cloud-seeding-operation-replenishes-major-dams-in-the-north/?do=findComment&comment=11086427 3 minutes ago, jamesbrock said: Cloud seeding increases the chances of precipitation, it does not and can not create precipitation where there otherwise would be none (otherwise Thailand would not have just encountered its worst drought in 50 years). Why the Thai authorities chose to cloud seed in the monsoon season when a La Nina is building is open to debate... It doesn't seem a very clever idea to me. How can they measure? Read my post here: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/939675-cloud-seeding-operation-replenishes-major-dams-in-the-north/?do=findComment&comment=11086427 So you can seed one rain cloud in the sky to produce 55 % more precipitation. But not needed during monsoons. La Nina does not guarantee more rain for Thailand, and 100 % not where the farmers need it, and not to water Bangkok grass and cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesbrock Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 14 minutes ago, bark said: So you can seed one rain cloud in the sky to produce 55 % more precipitation. According to DRRAA Director-General Lersak Rewtarkulpaiboon, yes; according to the general scientific community, “Based upon a rigorous examination of the accumulated results of the numerous experimental tests of the static-mode and dynamic- mode seeding concepts conducted over the past four decades, it has been found that they have not yet provided either the statistical or physical evidence required to establish their scientific validity.” 14 minutes ago, bark said: But not needed during monsoons. Yet they do it... 14 minutes ago, bark said: La Nina does not guarantee more rain for Thailand, and 100 % not where the farmers need it, and not to water Bangkok grass and cars. While La Niña is associated with heavy rains in Indonesia, the Philippines and Thailand, and the last La Niña episode was a large factor in the 2011–2012 Thailand floods, it is true not all La Niña episodes cause flooding in Thailand. What is concerning, is that in 2011, the monsoon started in May, and major flooding began as Tropical Storm Nock-ten hit around 31 July, which was exacerbated by heavy rains continuing longer than usual due to the effect of La Niña - and now we have two tropical storms forecast in August to September in conjunction with this La Niña... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prbkk Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Where does this crap come from? A quick stroll through the park suggests to me there is no chance of significant rain in Bangkok today or tonight. Maybe tomorrow but certainly not today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 ...do any of them really know anything....like from these past 100 years of weather and flooding patterns...??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sahibji Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 4 hours ago, jamesbrock said: Wouldn't have anything to do with the cloud seeding operations that produced rainfall 55% higher than the amount of natural rainfall, would it? the reaction to cloud seeding is not so delayed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sahibji Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 33 minutes ago, SOTIRIOS said: ...do any of them really know anything....like from these past 100 years of weather and flooding patterns...??? al nino has changed the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thian Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 I live in the mentioned area but no rain at all so far today, yesterday some heavy showers but no flooding at all. It's not even humid in the air, 65%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDazed Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 I cant find any other forecast predicting rain in Bangkok tonight, nothing showing on radar either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 2 hours ago, sahibji said: al nino has changed the situation. I think you'll find that it was al pacino............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 5 hours ago, jamesbrock said: According to DRRAA Director-General Lersak Rewtarkulpaiboon, yes; according to the general scientific community, “Based upon a rigorous examination of the accumulated results of the numerous experimental tests of the static-mode and dynamic- mode seeding concepts conducted over the past four decades, it has been found that they have not yet provided either the statistical or physical evidence required to establish their scientific validity.” Yet they do it... While La Niña is associated with heavy rains in Indonesia, the Philippines and Thailand, and the last La Niña episode was a large factor in the 2011–2012 Thailand floods, it is true not all La Niña episodes cause flooding in Thailand. What is concerning, is that in 2011, the monsoon started in May, and major flooding began as Tropical Storm Nock-ten hit around 31 July, which was exacerbated by heavy rains continuing longer than usual due to the effect of La Niña - and now we have two tropical storms forecast in August to September in conjunction with this La Niña... It should also be noted that during 2011, very little water was released from the dams for most of the year leading up to the floods. They were running at full capacity very early into the wet season. I did look at the data online and noted one major dam had NO water released during August 2011. Poor management didn't help the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrum Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 14 hours ago, Prbkk said: Where does this crap come from? A quick stroll through the park suggests to me there is no chance of significant rain in Bangkok today or tonight. Maybe tomorrow but certainly not today. And correct your were. No rain at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Yeah...well...that didn't happen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 5 hours ago, DM07 said: Yeah...well...that didn't happen... Yes it did out here in rural Khampaeng Phet. Heavy rain and thunderstorms from 8 pm until around 11.30 and more rain this morning. Now of course there is sunshine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 17 minutes ago, billd766 said: Yes it did out here in rural Khampaeng Phet. Heavy rain and thunderstorms from 8 pm until around 11.30 and more rain this morning. Now of course there is sunshine. Sorry, I should have mentioned, that I was referring to Bangkok! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 4 minutes ago, DM07 said: Sorry, I should have mentioned, that I was referring to Bangkok! OK. Sorry. I was just feeling picky as the family have got out for the afternoon and left me behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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