Nervous flyer? - not what you want to see outside your aircraft window

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Nervous flyer? - not what you want to see outside your aircraft window

 

Image: Sanook

 

BANGKOK: -- It is a picture that nervous flyers would rather not see outside their aircraft window. A shredded tire on the aircraft that is already well into its journey.

 

The picture was taken by a passenger on a Nok Air flight from Don Muang, Bangkok, to Nan province in the north yesterday, reported Sanook.

 

After thirty minutes the pilot of flight DD8826 that left Bangkok at 4.55pm decided to go back to Don Muang where the 81 passengers landed safely.

 

Airport director Petch Chancharoen said that the takeoff had been normal and that the pilot had made a request to return after half an hour for safety reasons. 

 

Both the airport and the airline are investigating and the matter has been reported to aviation authorities, he said, adding that it definitely was not something lying on the runway that caused the tire to be damaged.

 

All passengers were transferred to another flight and were on their way by 6.30pm.

 

Source: Sanook

 

-- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2016-08-26

 

[MaiChai]

Took him 30 mins to decide to return back? 

[animalmagic]

4 minutes ago, MaiChai said:

Took him 30 mins to decide to return back? 

Makes sense.  Maintain scheduled course and speed whilst considering options.  Fully examine extent of damage and chances of successful landing; whilst considering landing strip and emergency facilities of all available runways - Don Mueang most likely best.  During this time he has also been burning fuel in an attempt to lower the total amount available should things go wrong and a fire breaks out on landing.  Plus it allows time for discussions with HQ and more experienced pilots, and gives time for emergency services to be briefed and ready.

All ended well.

[canopus1969]

Took 30 mins for B-Quik in Nan to realise they did not have that size tyre in stock

[Romeland]

How could the wheel be almost level with a passenger window ?  I'm sure you can't see the wheels from your seat in a plane ?

[colinneil]

1 minute ago, Romeland said:

How could the wheel be almost level with a passenger window ?  I'm sure you can't see the wheels from your seat in a plane ?

Easy to see the wheels from the window before they are retracted.

[sandrabbit]

5 minutes ago, Romeland said:

How could the wheel be almost level with a passenger window ?  I'm sure you can't see the wheels from your seat in a plane ?

it's probably a high wing turboprop plane so the landing gear is quite visible.

[jlwilliamsjr18]

Not surprised, NOK used to use old pick up trucks to unload the plane.  It does seem the ground inspection would have revealed excessive wear.  Then again not.  He'd probably catch it for delaying take off. 

[Navalator]

This was photo shopped.  But if this shot is real then the pilot exercised excellent judgment.  

[monkey4u]

On the smaller commuter aircraft with the wing over the body you look out at the wheels

Just look at a few different planes

[bark]

37 minutes ago, animalmagic said:

Makes sense.  Maintain scheduled course and speed whilst considering options.  Fully examine extent of damage and chances of successful landing; whilst considering landing strip and emergency facilities of all available runways - Don Mueang most likely best.  During this time he has also been burning fuel in an attempt to lower the total amount available should things go wrong and a fire breaks out on landing.  Plus it allows time for discussions with HQ and more experienced pilots, and gives time for emergency services to be briefed and ready.

All ended well.

What you said makes perfect sense; and well thought out.

But there is also chance he wanted to go to the toilet. As he was sh.t himself.

 

[jamesbrock]

10 minutes ago, Romeland said:

How could the wheel be almost level with a passenger window ?  I'm sure you can't see the wheels from your seat in a plane ?

 

Depends on the type of plane. Yesterday's DD8826 was HS-DQB, a Bombardier Dash 8 Q400.

 

[F4UCorsair]

About what I'd expect.   The landing gear was obviously left down, as it should have been, company contact made, and they contacted their engineering department at the destination to see if there was a wheel in stock.  It seems there may not have been, other options may have been explored for a diversion, wheel in stock,  minimal delay, emergency services available, etc., DMK decided, and the aircraft returned.   Fuel burn off may also have been a factor, although I'm not familiar with the type of aircraft, so not sure on that.

 

Sounds like a fairly routine day at the office to me.

[Sphere]

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Both the airport and the airline are investigating and the matter has been reported to aviation authorities, he said, adding that it definitely was not something lying on the runway that caused the tire to be damaged.

 

Yup, the runway looked clean enough looking out of that aicondtitioned office.

[wvavin]

This is definitely not checked by the Thai air engineer base on their very high safety aviation safety record!

[up2you2]

Quite easy really, you just carry out the same rescue procedure as they did did on the Fireflash maiden flight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lWNZowvWEk

[Ricardo]

I rather doubt that the Nok Air engineering-department at Nan is all that big ?

 

So correct to RTB, where they do have full staff/stores, at DMK.

[GreasyFingers]

A bit like the time I was flying from Darwin to Galiwinku in a single engine 2 seater. I am happily looking at the scenery and the pilot asks "can you hear that miss in the engine". I said no. He said "there it is, do you think we should turn back".

[williamgeorgeallen]

1 hour ago, Romeland said:

How could the wheel be almost level with a passenger window ?  I'm sure you can't see the wheels from your seat in a plane ?

not much of a story if the passengers can see the blow out..

[F4UCorsair]

9 minutes ago, GreasyFingers said:

A bit like the time I was flying from Darwin to Galiwinku in a single engine 2 seater. I am happily looking at the scenery and the pilot asks "can you hear that miss in the engine". I said no. He said "there it is, do you think we should turn back".

 

 

Single engined aircraft 'miss' on every flight.   Mostly it's in the mind of the pilot though.

 

People think the propeller is to propel the aircraft, but it's to keep the pilot cool.   If it stops, he really starts sweating!!

[metisdead]

A Burmese trolling post has been removed. 

[cnx355]

1 hour ago, Romeland said:

How could the wheel be almost level with a passenger window ?  I'm sure you can't see the wheels from your seat in a plane ?

On a Bombardier Q-400 ( Dash -8 )  the wings are on top and you can see very well the landing gear and engine.

 

On an ATR 42 or 72. the wings are also on top but the landing gear is under the fuselage , so you see nothing of the landing ear.

Only the engine.

 

 

[GreasyFingers]

20 minutes ago, F4UCorsair said:

People think the propeller is to propel the aircraft, but it's to keep the pilot cool.   If it stops, he really starts sweating!!

 

He was sweating

[camsouth]

1 hour ago, Romeland said:

How could the wheel be almost level with a passenger window ?  I'm sure you can't see the wheels from your seat in a plane ?

on a tubo prop they can come from the wing s some landing gear on small twin s are in the wings

[sydneyboy]

1 hour ago, Romeland said:

How could the wheel be almost level with a passenger window ?  I'm sure you can't see the wheels from your seat in a plane ?

 

I'm sure someone has replied already but if it's a turbo prop plane the landing gear is in the wing, not under like a jet aircraft.  

[SOTIRIOS]

...wow...talk about fringe.....

[sahibji]

3 hours ago, MaiChai said:

Took him 30 mins to decide to return back? 

how long was the balance of the journey unless facilities are better at Don Muang to handle emergencies.

[sahibji]

a lot for Air Nok to explain. preflight inspection would certainly have shown the damaged tyre unless this was not even done.

[douglasspade]

Should change their name to Kai air!

[Kabula]

3 hours ago, MaiChai said:

Took him 30 mins to decide to return back? 

Perhaps he was dumping off fuel.