webfact Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 Zika infection in Thailand is not widespread: Disease Control Department BANGKOK: -- The Disease Control Department has dismissed as inaccurate a report of the Disease Control and Prevention Centre of the European Union placing Thailand as a country with widespread Zika infection in the last three months. The department director-general, Dr Amnuay Kajeena, explained on Tuesday that since Thailand had never submitted any report about Zika infection to the European Union, it was assumed that the report might be based on press reports which were not accurate. He suggested that the EU’s disease control and prevention centre should base its report on the data of the World Health Organisation. WHO has placed Thailand among countries with scattered Zika infection which also include Vietnam, Indonesia and Singapore, said Dr Amnuay, adding that Zika infection which used to affect 16 provinces has now reduced to six provinces without any new cases. Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/zika-infection-thailand-not-widespread-disease-control-department/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2016-08-31
jamesbrock Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 Lies, lies and more lies. Anything to protect the golden goose. The roads are safe, the police are honest, the taxi drivers are professional, the beaches are clean, there is no terrorism, there is no zika... Disgraceful.
carstenp Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 Again again again, opposite statements from other news articles. I never trust Thai PBS news articles and really don't understand TV using them as source. He suggested that the EU’s disease control and prevention centre should base its report on the data of the World Health Organisation. I think they do Another statement in newspaper says opposite Big jump in number of cases in Thailand Quote Between 2012 and 2015, an average of just five people were recorded as infected with the Zika virus each year. But in the first six months of this year, at least 97 people in Thailand have been diagnosed with the disease. And over the past week, new infections have been detected in Chiang Mai, Chanthaburi, Phetchabun and Bung Kan provinces. Quote Disease Control Department chief Dr Amnuay Gajeena, however, sought to allay concerns yesterday about the Zika threat in the country. "We have implemented the strictest measures in controlling |the spread of the Zika virus," he |said. Amnuay added that Thailand had not seen the prolonged spread of the disease in any affected area and the number of patients was not overwhelming. Quote "Because of mosquitoes, it's quite hard to eradicate Zika virus once and for all," Chiang Mai's public health chief Dr Paisal Thanyawinichkul said.
clockman Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 Like the Chinese, covered up SARS. Read China Syndrome, by Karl Taro Greenfeld. Frightening story!
webfact Posted August 31, 2016 Author Posted August 31, 2016 Big jump in number of Zika cases in Thailand BANGKOK - The number of detected Zika infections in Thailand has jumped significantly this year compared to recent years. The number of detected Zika infections in Thailand has jumped significantly this year compared to recent years. Between 2012 and 2015, an average of just five people were recorded as infected with the Zika virus each year. But in the first six months of this year, at least 97 people in Thailand have been diagnosed with the disease. And over the past week, new infections have been detected in Chiang Mai, Chanthaburi, Phetchabun and Bung Kan provinces. Full story: http://health.asiaone.com/health/health-news/big-jump-number-zika-cases-thailand -- asiaone 2016-08-31
Kabula Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 Not to worry if you had a vasectomy! No babies, no large heads! Just a rash, possible fever for about 5 days. In time that to will pass with all the hysteria.?
Kabula Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 2 hours ago, carstenp said: Again again again, opposite statements from other news articles. I never trust Thai PBS news articles and really don't understand TV using them as source. He suggested that the EU’s disease control and prevention centre should base its report on the data of the World Health Organisation. I think they do Another statement in newspaper says opposite Big jump in number of cases in Thailand I noticed my head has been getting larger! I think is from all the young, beautiful women asking me, 'where you go?' Then following up with.... "I go with you." ??
bangon04 Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 Of course it is only a few foreign mosquitos which ae making trouble for Thailand........ we could have guessed .
impulse Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 While the increase is disturbing, 97 cases out of a population of 70 million is hardly a reason to run up the red flags on tourists coming to a tropical beach, who probably have similar odds of catching something sitting in their damp, cold, rainy homeland. (It's that "at least 97" that gives me pause) I suspect 100x as many tourists come home with one of the other STD's. That doesn't seem to slow them down.
carstenp Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 15 minutes ago, impulse said: While the increase is disturbing, 97 cases out of a population of 70 million is hardly a reason to run up the red flags on tourists coming to a tropical beach, who probably have similar odds of catching something sitting in their damp, cold, rainy homeland. (It's that "at least 97" that gives me pause) I suspect 100x as many tourists come home with one of the other STD's. That doesn't seem to slow them down. I don't want to be a drama queen, but you do realize, that you can be infected without going to see a doctor . Its only people there has been in the hospitals is tested and properly very sick there is in the statistic. You have to calculate this factor in If this mosquito has been biting 3 or 4 persons, as this type of mosquito does, then its 97*97*97 a bit more people and then new cult mosquito out there will bite again
smedly Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 37 minutes ago, webfact said: Big jump in number of Zika cases in Thailand BANGKOK - The number of detected Zika infections in Thailand has jumped significantly this year compared to recent years. The number of detected Zika infections in Thailand has jumped significantly this year compared to recent years. Between 2012 and 2015, an average of just five people were recorded as infected with the Zika virus each year. But in the first six months of this year, at least 97 people in Thailand have been diagnosed with the disease. And over the past week, new infections have been detected in Chiang Mai, Chanthaburi, Phetchabun and Bung Kan provinces. Full story: http://health.asiaone.com/health/health-news/big-jump-number-zika-cases-thailand -- asiaone 2016-08-31 Several words worth noting in that press release Big Jump Detected Diagnosed New infections These things tend to spread exponentially, the only way to stop it is either with a vaccine or to wipe out the insect that is spreading it, I'm not sure what value mosquitos are to the eco system (I suspect very little to none) but it is time these disease spreading insects were wiped out, a few years back I thought they had developed a way of genetically altering the male or female so they could not reproduce and introducing these modified species into the wild to effectively eradicate them for good, surely that must outweigh the death toll, maybe big pharma are making too much money developing vaccines and would rather they remained, I wonder how many people have died from the disease these insects spread. I say if there is a way to eradicate them then they should be making every effort to do so.
smedly Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 45 minutes ago, Kabula said: Not to worry if you had a vasectomy! No babies, no large heads! Just a rash, possible fever for about 5 days. In time that to will pass with all the hysteria.? you do of course realise that without the ability to reproduce effectively you would not be here, you have a rather selfish view on things don't you think, maybe if you had be born with a large head and little else inside but air you might have a different view on things ................................oh wait
impulse Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 12 minutes ago, carstenp said: I don't want to be a drama queen, but you do realize, that you can be infected without going to see a doctor . Its only people there has been in the hospitals is tested and properly very sick there is in the statistic. You have to calculate this factor in If this mosquito has been biting 3 or 4 persons, as this type of mosquito does, then its 97*97*97 a bit more people and then new cult mosquito out there will bite again True, but it’s a lot like terrorism. You can get just as blown up in your local cafe in Paris as on a beach in Thailand. Zika seems to be making the rounds worldwide and the difference between staying home and enjoying your holiday don’t seem too onerous. 2 in a million vs 1 in 2 million. Hardly a criteria for selecting your destination. Sensationalizing it doesn't keep anyone significantly safer, but it can have severe impact on the economic well being of a destination.
carstenp Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 5 minutes ago, impulse said: True, but it’s a lot like terrorism. You can get just as blown up in your local cafe in Paris as on a beach in Thailand. Zika seems to be making the rounds worldwide and the difference between staying home and enjoying your holiday don’t seem too onerous. 2 in a million vs 1 in 2 million. Hardly a criteria for selecting your destination. Sensationalizing it doesn't keep anyone significantly safer, but it can have severe impact on the economic well being of a destination. I get the point, but if a women there is pregnant want to go on a holiday, and know this Zika is down here. I think she will think twice before going on holiday in a place where Zika is.
sahibji Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 5 hours ago, jamesbrock said: Lies, lies and more lies. Anything to protect the golden goose. The roads are safe, the police are honest, the taxi drivers are professional, the beaches are clean, there is no terrorism, there is no zika... Disgraceful. with so much mobility zika virus is very likely to cross borders despite the best of preventive measures.the best safety is to stay vigilant and act in case any symptoms show up.
HiSoLowSoNoSo Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 I remember Thaksin's chicken cooking show on TV and when he lied to EU that there was no Chicken flu in Thailand, hope this is not a similar cover up.
Class C Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 1 hour ago, webfact said: Big jump in number of Zika cases in Thailand BANGKOK - The number of detected Zika infections in Thailand has jumped significantly this year compared to recent years. We have noticed a big drop in the number of mosquitoes in our immediate area both in the house and outside since installing a 100 litre GUPPY FISH POND in a pot. The fish eat the mosquito larvae.
jamesbrock Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 8 minutes ago, HiSoLowSoNoSo said: I remember Thaksin's chicken cooking show on TV and when he lied to EU that there was no Chicken flu in Thailand, hope this is not a similar cover up. "No heatwave in Thailand" (for the ludicrous reason that there are no deserts) during a heatwave; "No floods in Bangkok, just a water drainage delay" - they are the masters of (completely transparent and utterly stupid) cover-ups.
waldroj Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 Rainy season - and a time when mosquitoes are likely to spread, yet the Disease Control Department dismiss a EU report on widespread Zika infection as inaccurate. Back in January, we had Dr Wichan Pawan, from the Thai Health Ministry saying "But as this virus is spread by mosquitoes, I would say that, wherever there are mosquitoes, there's a possibility of this virus being found" http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/thailand-has-most-zika-cases-in-region And, it is reported that in the first six months of this year, at least 97 people in Thailand have been diagnosed with the disease. In August, Chiang Mai's public health chief Dr Paisal Thanyawinichkul, said. "Because of mosquitoes, it's quite hard to eradicate Zika virus once and for all" http://health.asiaone.com/health/health-news/big-jump-number-zika-cases-thailand Surely, DCD's Dr Amnuay Kajeena is not being untruthful about this?
Grubster Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 A bit off topic but how will this epidemic effect abortion laws and or stances. I wouldn't want to bring one into this world would you.
lemonjelly Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 3 hours ago, Kabula said: Not to worry if you had a vasectomy! No babies, no large heads! Just a rash, possible fever for about 5 days. In time that to will pass with all the hysteria.? Microcephaly and Zika virus .. Educate yourself and do us all a favour
Rorri Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 3 hours ago, impulse said: While the increase is disturbing, 97 cases out of a population of 70 million is hardly a reason to run up the red flags on tourists coming to a tropical beach, who probably have similar odds of catching something sitting in their damp, cold, rainy homeland. (It's that "at least 97" that gives me pause) I suspect 100x as many tourists come home with one of the other STD's. That doesn't seem to slow them down. True, 97 isn't that many, if the number is true, but you must remember, not everyone seeks treatment, as the symptoms are similar to the flu, or common cold, so the number of people i fe ted is far more than those reported.
Emster23 Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 Whew, lucky the health spokesmodel got the news out (as posted this morning here) that no epidemic, everything is under control, blah blah. Just made it in under the wire! Maybe a tip off?
seancbk Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 5 hours ago, Kabula said: Not to worry if you had a vasectomy! No babies, no large heads! Just a rash, possible fever for about 5 days. In time that to will pass with all the hysteria.? Zika causes new born babies to have small heads not large heads. As more is learn't about this disease they are finding that in adults it may lead to brain damage. As an adult contracting it *could* result in you developing symptoms similar to dementia or alzheimers, far younger than you may develop them naturally. I guess if you're already an old bloke then maybe you've got less to worry about.
lucky11 Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 5 hours ago, carstenp said: I get the point, but if a women there is pregnant want to go on a holiday, and know this Zika is down here. I think she will think twice before going on holiday in a place where Zika is. Zika is relatively harmless. This whole Zika thing is a total hoax designed to promote the buying of vaccines, larvicides, GM mosquito's and other chemicals through putting false fear into people and tricking gullible governments and ignorant health departments - it is the larvicide they use to disrupt the mosquito's growth that causes the microcephaly, not mosquito bites!! Why is Brazil (fumigation with larvicides is heavy here) the only country out of all of those that has Zika outbreaks that suffer from an abnormally high incidence of MC? Go figure!!
ukrules Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 58 minutes ago, seancbk said: Zika causes new born babies to have small heads not large heads. As more is learn't about this disease they are finding that in adults it may lead to brain damage. As an adult contracting it *could* result in you developing symptoms similar to dementia or alzheimers, far younger than you may develop them naturally. I guess if you're already an old bloke then maybe you've got less to worry about. Correct, what you're talking about is Guillain Barre Syndrome (GBS), it will be interesting to see how many people develop this condition which can kill over the next couple of years. I saw a Doctor being interviewed on TV some time ago in one of the Central American places where Zika has increased massively and he said the number of GBS patients he came across went from one per year to almost one per day, I think he was a neurologist.
Shawn0000 Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 7 hours ago, Kabula said: Not to worry if you had a vasectomy! No babies, no large heads! Just a rash, possible fever for about 5 days. In time that to will pass with all the hysteria.? And the chance of brain capacity reduction, long term memory loss and mobility problems, not things that pass with time, and like Malaria and Dengue, this "hysteria" is here to stay.
HarrySeaman Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 6 hours ago, Kabula said: Not to worry if you had a vasectomy! No babies, no large heads! Just a rash, possible fever for about 5 days. In time that to will pass with all the hysteria.? Where to start, where to start? It's hard to know where to start with all these ignorant statements piled up one on top the other. First, the virus is in the ejaculate, not the sperm. Whether or not you have had a vasectomy makes no difference, you can pass on the infection through unprotected sexual contact. Large heads? Can you even read? Microcephaly causes small heads because the brain doesn't fully develop. The result is a baby that needs constant care and if it lives the child and adult will also need constant care. Hysteria? Thy taking care of a microcephaly baby and you will see what all the hysteria is about. How many are you willing to take responsibility for? Funny thing about infections, they don't just go away. Polio was supposedly eradicated but there are still outbreaks almost every year - and there is a very, very effective vaccination for polio and a massively expensive worldwide program to administer that vaccine. There is no vaccination for Zika so just why is it supposed to pass?
SOUTHERNSTAR Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 Unfortunately many members was born before we knew about the big heads problem, but it seems as if Zika have been around much longer than what was first thought to be the case.
seancbk Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 46 minutes ago, ukrules said: Correct, what you're talking about is Guillain Barre Syndrome (GBS), it will be interesting to see how many people develop this condition which can kill over the next couple of years. I saw a Doctor being interviewed on TV some time ago in one of the Central American places where Zika has increased massively and he said the number of GBS patients he came across went from one per year to almost one per day, I think he was a neurologist. The scary thing is that whilst mosquito control programs (education to stop people leaving stagnant water everywhere, mass fumigation and other actions) have been ongoing in Singapore for probably decades, they still have a significant zika problem. If Singapore has a problem then I can only imagine what it will be like in Thailand.
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