Tourist Visa Extension

[darrendsd]

10 hours ago, elviajero said:

Are you a moderator now because unless you are I will continue to ignore your opinion on the ridiculous notion that we have to clarify everything we write is opinion.

 

"What sources are your arguments based on?" Clearly @europeannomad understands that people posting on a forum are posting opinion.

 

"He has no sources"  I'm confused! Is that your opinion or fact?

 

You are actually quoting a post I deleted soon after posting

 

The fact that another poster on this thread is asking for your source should tell you something

 

 

[JackThompson]

1 hour ago, europeannomad said:

 

bkkrooftop, thank you. If you read my posts, you can see well that I didn't break any rules. As said by others, tourist visa extension is usually given and nothing justifies trating me differently.

 

Anyway, there has been a story last year that doesn't allow me to be submissive anymore. My girlfriend changed the school, and the new school did not process her papers for several month despite having promised it in the contract. ... We went to the immigration office to solve the problem. This same woman promised us to call the school and to encourage them to process the papers correctly. But she never did, in fact she just covered this school despite the fact that the school violated law and work contract. My girlfriend got serious visa problems because of this and got nearly deported.

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Of course I told to this immigration officer that she should call the school and help us, and I did it clearly. She didn't like it but said yes, because she knew that it is a problem school and that we were right. We had a lot of discussions, but never in an unpolite way, just constructive discussions. In hindsight I think that she might have perceived our discussions differently. But I don't care about it, we will just leave to another province if no solution for my extensions can be found.

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Now we know why she is refusing the extensions - nothing to do with all the speculation about "cracking down" on those legally using Tourist Visas to stay here that others posted. 

 

I'm not saying this is "right" - but it is exactly what I would "expect" in these circumstances.  So gven what has happened, yes, it would be wise to move to another province, and hope that IO doesn't have friends and family there.

[europeannomad]

37 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

That would not be needed for an extension of a tourist visa entry. Just a local address which could be from an overnight stay in a hotel.

Ubonjoe thank you for having a look here. Might I ask you if I need to do the 90 day reporting? (As a 60+30, 60+30, etc. tourist visa holder)

 

Because I read on the website of the immigration that the first extension or first entry of a tourist visa is considered a 90 day reporting at the same time (or something similar).

 

That would mean that I only need to do the visa runs and the extensions, and the extensions could be done anywhere in the country.

 

The local immigration sees it differently. They expect that I make 90 day reporting AND extension, separately.

 

Do you have any information how other immigration offices handle this? 

[ubonjoe]

6 minutes ago, europeannomad said:

Ubonjoe thank you for having a look here. Might I ask you if I need to do the 90 day reporting? (As a 60+30, 60+30, etc. tourist visa holder)

 

Because I read on the website of the immigration that the first extension or first entry of a tourist visa is considered a 90 day reporting at the same time (or something similar).

 

That would mean that I only need to do the visa runs and the extensions, and the extensions could be done anywhere in the country.

 

The local immigration sees it differently. They expect that I make 90 day reporting AND extension, separately.

 

Do you have any information how other immigration offices handle this? 

It is a report of staying longer than 90 consecutive days in the country. You never stay longer than 90 days so a report is not required.

If they are saying you need to do one they are wrong.

[bkkrooftop]

8 hours ago, europeannomad said:

 

bkkrooftop, thank you. If you read my posts, you can see well that I didn't break any rules. As said by others, tourist visa extension is usually given and nothing justifies trating me differently.

 

Anyway, there has been a story last year that doesn't allow me to be submissive anymore. My girlfriend changed the school, and the new school did not process her papers for several month despite having promised it in the contract. After a while, I also went to the school and tried to help my girlfriend. It came out that this school had not processed the papers of many foreign teachers in the past years and that everybody knew about it apart from us. We went to the immigration office to solve the problem. This same woman promised us to call the school and to encourage them to process the papers correctly. But she never did, in fact she just covered this school despite the fact that the school violated law and work contract. My girlfriend got serious visa problems because of this and got nearly deported. Only because I went to Vientiane with her and acted as a guarantor she got the last tourist visa. Happily she found a more serious school for the new school year, and now everything is fine.

 

Of course I told to this immigration officer that she should call the school and help us, and I did it clearly. She didn't like it but said yes, because she knew that it is a problem school and that we were right. We had a lot of discussions, but never in an unpolite way, just constructive discussions. In hindsight I think that she might have perceived our discussions differently. But I don't care about it, we will just leave to another province if no solution for my extensions can be found.

 

What I want to say is that I could not go back anymore and play a submissive person with a durian. She knows that I am not, she knows that I am the exact opposite of submissive. Despite this, until now she only made me wait for hours every time (even with an empty office), but in the end still gave me the extensions.

sorry my friend..I do sympathize as I know how it is to be waiting for hrs, and then dependent on someone to make a decision of your life.  Most likely based on their reality and how they feel that day.  TIT.   This is why I feel you should move on.  I dont feel like appeals in this situation will do anything but make things worse.  Just an opinion.  good luck buddy, didnt mean to be too sarcastic as i didnt know the whole story.   i do know how it is challenging to meander the system of imm.  when rules change and bend daily.  I think most of us are pretty + and just want a realistic visa to live our lives.  As for me, if i could pay someone to do the visa process all together I would do it.  However , if i have go to io, I  do put my tails between my legs when i go in there bc you just simply never know in these instances.  Good luck

[elviajero]

On 6,September, 2016 at 9:22 AM, jspill said:

There's no rule, she's just being miserable. 

 

You could do the extensions in Bangkok as soon as you fly in from a surrounding country, before you make the trip up North. Just spend an extra day or two in Bangkok. 

 

I use an agent in Sukhumvit to handle the extensions for me, no risk of getting hassled. 

When you use this agent do you have to go to Immigration too or does the agent do everything for you?

[jspill]

Agent does everything

[ocddave]

1 hour ago, jspill said:

Agent does everything

 

I will be there on a Non-Immigrant "O" Visa (Marriage) for 4 years, but if an agent comes to our home and helps us gather and fill-out all necessary paperwork and goes to Immigration for us, so we don't ever have to deal with any of the reporting or physically going there to stand in line all day, then I'm game. How much do they charge, and who do we talk to?

[rickudon]

What Immigration offices are supposed to do and what they actually do can be different. My local immigration office has been known to deny tourist visa extensions or to just extend for a few days. They also will often not process an application to extend a visa on supporting a child grounds - they just say get married (or live on 3 month non 'O' visas).  Had to get married because of that.  Could kick up a fuss but as said earlier, make trouble for them and they can make trouble for you. Over the last 6 years many changes to visas and the requirements for them, often at very short notice.

[elviajero]

4 minutes ago, ocddave said:

 

I will be there on a Non-Immigrant "O" Visa (Marriage) for 4 years, but if an agent comes to our home and helps us gather and fill-out all necessary paperwork and goes to Immigration for us, so we don't ever have to deal with any of the reporting or physically going there to stand in line all day, then I'm game. How much do they charge, and who do we talk to?

Immigration will not issue an extension of stay without you being present. Either this agent is paying off someone within Immigration to get a legitimate extension or providing a fake stamp. If it is fake you could end up with big problems.

[Ronuk]

Never come across this site before. I haven't read the whole page to know if the information is current.

https://seetefl.com/thai-visas-work-permits-immigration/

[jspill]

4 minutes ago, elviajero said:

Immigration will not issue an extension of stay without you being present. Either this agent is paying off someone within Immigration to get a legitimate extension or providing a fake stamp. If it is fake you could end up with big problems.

 

 

It's not 2002 anymore they don't use fake stamps. It's legitimate, comes with the official receipt too. Used it many times. 

[BritTim]

3 hours ago, Ronuk said:

Never come across this site before. I haven't read the whole page to know if the information is current.

https://seetefl.com/thai-visas-work-permits-immigration/

 

That is far better than most other pages on Thai visa requirements. I can find a few minor errors, but I have only one major criticism: the page does not properly distinguish between the "permission to stay" and the "visa". The page refers to both as the "visa" which is confusing and dangerous.

[Ronuk]

15 minutes ago, BritTim said:

 

That is far better than most other pages on Thai visa requirements. I can find a few minor errors, but I have only one major criticism: the page does not properly distinguish between the "permission to stay" and the "visa". The page refers to both as the "visa" which is confusing and dangerous.

If you go to 'Visa Support' https://seetefl.com/thai-visa/ I think it may explain better.

[BritTim]

18 minutes ago, Ronuk said:

If you go to 'Visa Support' https://seetefl.com/thai-visa/ I think it may explain better.

 

This shortened summary is guilty of the same muddling of "visa" and "permission to stay". It occurs throughout. Example:

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The Thailand Tourist visa is valid for 60 days. This visa can be extended one time for a further 30 days at any Thai immigration office.

 

[Ronuk]

6 minutes ago, BritTim said:

 

This shortened summary is guilty of the same muddling of "visa" and "permission to stay". It occurs throughout. Example:

 

I doubt there is site that ever gets the correct analogy right 100% of the time
Hopefully people might find the information, on the whole, useful.